John Stanley (abt. 1386 - 1437)

Born about 1386 in Lathom, Lancashire, England

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John Stanley, Knt., Lord of the Isle of Man, Sheriff of Anglesley, Steward of Macclesfield, Justice of Chester, & Steward of the Household of King Henry IV^[1]

John was born circa 1386; he was 28 years and upward at the time of his mother's death in 1414.^[2] He was the son of Sir John Stanley, KG, and his wife, Isobel Lathom, the daughter of Sir Thomas de Lathom of Lancashire.^[1][3]

John married Elizabeth Harrington, the daughter of Sir Nicholas Harrington of Farleton, Lancashire prior to 1405.^[1]

John and Elizabeth had three sons and two daughters:^[1]

• Thomas Stanley, K.G.,^[4] married Joan Goushill^[1]
• Richard Stanley, Archdeacon of Chester^[1][5]
• Edward Stanley, Archdeacon of Chester^[1][5]
• Alice Stanley, married (1) Thomas Dutton, Esq., (2) John Wolton^[1]
• Isabel Stanley, married John Warren, Esq.^[1]

In May 1413, Sir John served as a Member of Parliament representing Lancashire.^[6] The following year, he was named Knight of the Shire for Lancashire^[7] and returned to Parliament in November.^[6]

On 6 January 1414, John's father died,^[1] and John inherited many of the lands and titles that his father had held before him. Among his new titles was the lordship of the Isle of Man.^[7] As Lord of Man, he served as a witness of the truce between the kings of England and France on 17 February 1414^[8]

A Papal Indult was issued from Mantua, Italy in March 1414 that allowed John, a nobleman, and his wife, Elizabeth, a noblewoman, to chose their personal confessor, who could hear their confessions, grant them pardons, and "enjoin a salutary penance".^[9]

John led a cadre of eight men-at-arms and twenty-four archers on foot at the decisive battle of Agincourt in the county of Artois, France on 23 October 1415.^[10] For services rendered during the battle, John received knighthood thereafter.^[11]

In 1417, Sir John traveled to the Isle of Man, where governance had suffered from the absence of the Lord of the Isle of Man since the death of his father.^[7] After of consultation with the leaders of the Isle, he initiated written records of the Manx laws, the names of Governors and other officials including the names of the members of the House of Keys, the Manx equivalent of Parliament. Sir John named Thurstan of Tildesley and Roger Haysnap as his representatives in all matters on the Isle of Man in a commission signed on 27th November 1417.^[12] These two commissioners obtained an important Indenture from the House of Keys that limited the powers of the barons of the isle so that the laws of the land prevailed over those of the church which held all of the baronies. It also abolished the rights of the barons to offer sanctuary to miscreants sought by the representatives of the Lord of the Isle of Man.^[12] The date of the Indenture is 18 January 1417. (1417/18, because it seems that Sir John had already departed the isle. See Research Note, below.)

Sir John participated in the siege of Rouen, France and was there for its surrender to the English in August 1418.^[1] (See Research Note, below.)

The 1417 Indenture of the House of Keys on the Isle of Man specified that the barons of the isle must pledge their fealty to the Lord of the Isle of Man or lose all of their rights on the isle. However, these pledges remained unfulfilled in 1422 when Sir John once again came to the Isle of Man. On the Tuesday after the Feast of St. Bartholomew of that year, Sir John held a "Court of all the Tennants and Commons of Man" at Kirk Michael.^[13] Three of the barons, the Bishop of Man, the Abbot of Rushen, and the Prioress of Douglas, performed the act of fealty at the court, but the five remaining barons did not appear as their were summoned. The court proclaimed that should the missing barons not show up and perform fealty within ninety days they would lose all of their "Temporalities which would be ceised" by the Lord of the Isle of Man. Two new laws were promulgated during the court:

• responsibilities for the defense of the ports and coasts of Man were defined, and anyone who did not meet their requirements would lose all of their goods to the Lord of the Isle of Man; and
• licenses were required for anyone leaving Man with the loss of the vessel and its goods to the Lord of the Isle of Man as the penalty for departure without license.^[14]

Trials also were held that resulted in one hanging verdict, six beheading verdicts and one man was pardoned after admission of treason.^[14]

Letters Patent were issued at Westminster on 27 January 1423 that confirmed Sir John as Steward of Macclesfield, Master Forester of the forests of Macclesfield, Mara, and Mondrem as well as the surveyor and rider for those forests. These were positions that his father had been granted by King Henry V.^[15]

On 1 May 1434, John was listed as a knight from the county of Lancaster on a long list of persons from Lancashire who were required to swear that they would "not to maintain the peace breakers" named in an Act of Parliament that is specified by reference to the Rolls of Parliament, Vol. IV, p. 422.^[16]

Sir John passed away 27 Nov 1437.^[1]

Research Notes

• Wife: Richardson^[17] concludes that Sir Nicholas was the father of Elizabeth, John's wife, not Sir Robert, 3rd Baron Harrington or John de Haryngton of Hornby Castle,^[18] as have been cited elsewhere. His basis is that Elizabeth's granddaughter, Margaret, is listed as the great granddaughter of Sir Nicholas in her papal indult to marry her second cousin, John Boteler, who also was a great grandchild of Sir Nicholas.^[19]

• The Indenture was between Sir John's two representatives and the members of the House of Keys, and the representatives had not been appointed until November 1417. Thus, it is clear that January 1417 is "old style" (the switch to Gregorian calendar was a century away and the new year began in March).^[20]

• The siege of Rouen by King Henry V began in July 1418 and ended in surrender in January 1419. There seems to have been no capture of Rouen by the English in August 1418.

• Death location: Deleted "Anslesey, Breaconshire, Wales" as death location (no support for location).

• Y-DNA: The relationship between Sir John and Frank Davenport is via Wolfric Mercia-59, which requires 38 transfers of Y-DNA. Only three of those 38 are between parental relationships qualified as Confident on the WT profiles. (See: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/714105/who-resolves-programming-glitches?show=714175#a714175)

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11} Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Volume V, pages 25-27, STANLEY #12. Isabel Lathom, #13. John Stanley, Knt., #14. Thomas Stanley, K.G. (full citation below)
2. ↑ Langton, William (Editor). Abstracts of Inquisitions Post Mortem. Manchester, England: The Chetham Society, 1875. Volume XCV, pp 105-106.[[1]]
3. ↑ Raines, F. R. The Visitation of the County Palatine of Lancaster, 1664-5. Manchester, England: The Chetham Society, 1873. Volume LXXXVIII, Part III, p 281.
4. ↑ Rylands, J. P. (Editor). The Visitation of Chester in the Year 1580 and 1566, 1533, & 1591. London, England: 1882. p 213.[[2]]
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} Wikipedia: Archdeacon of Chester[[3]] -- accessed 7 Nov 2018.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} History of Parliament Online: STANLEY, John (d.1437) biography by "C.R." [[4]] (accessed 7 Nov 2018)
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2} Draper, Peter. The House of Stanley. Ormskirk, England: T. Hutton, 1864. pp 23-25.[[5]]
8. ↑ Catalogue des Rolles Gascons, Normans et Gasçons. Paris, France: Jacques Barois, fils , 1743. Volume II, p 218.[[6]]
9. ↑ Twemlow, J. A. Calendar in the Papal Register Related to Great Britain and Ireland. London, England: His Majesty's Stationery Office. Volume VI, pp 401-402.[[7]]
10. ↑ Harris, Nicholas. History of the Battle of Agincourt. London, England: Johnson & Co., 1833. p 384.[[8]]
11. ↑ Tynwald, the Parliament of the Isle of Man, web site: Sir John Stanley II. Accessed 20 January 2024.
12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1} Tynwald, the Parliament of the Isle of Man, web site: 1417: A Year of Records. web -- accessed 9 May 2023.
13. ↑ St. Michael's Church web site[9] -- accessed 10 Nov 2018.
14. ↑ ^{14.0 14.1} Mills, M. A. The Ancient Ordinances and Statute Laws of the Isle of Man. Douglas, Isle of Man, England: Phoenix Press, 1821. pp 8-11.[[10]]
15. ↑ The Deputy Keeper of the Records. Calendar of the Patent Rolls; Henry VI, A.D. 1422 - 1429. Norwich, England: Norfolk Chronicle Co. Ltd., 1901. p 62.[[11]]
16. ↑ The Deputy Keeper of the Records. Calendar of the Patent Rolls; Henry IV, A. D. 1429 - 1436. London, England: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1907. Volume II, pp 370-379.[[12]]
17. ↑ Richardson's Royal Ancestry, Volume V, footnote page 26 STANLEY #13. John Stanley, Knt. (see citation below)
18. ↑ John Stanley, entry in the database Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families by Charles Cawley © Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, 2000-2017.
19. ↑ Beamont, William. Annals of the Lords Warrington. Manchester, England: The Chetham Society, 1873. Volume LXXXVII, p 285. [[13]]
20. ↑ See WikiTree's Date Field help page

• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013)

See also:

• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Volume IV, page 89
• Richardson, Douglas. Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd edn. (2011), 3 vols, Volume III, page 265.
• The complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, Cokayne, George Edward, (Gloucester [England] : Alan Sutton Pub. Ltd., 1987), Vol. 12 pt 1 p. 249.
• Wikipedia: John Stanley
• Walpole, Spencer. The Land of Home Rule. Chapter VI: The Rule of the First Two Stanleys.[14].
• Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists - Faris, David. Baltimore, MD, USA

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Magna Carta Project

John Stanley is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Saher de Quincy in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:

• Margaret Domville: does not appear Magna Carta Ancestry, but see this post: soc.genealogy.medieval. Trail was developed and badged in Jul 2020 and can be seen HERE.
• Manwaring Gateways (Oliver and Mary) (MCA III:126-129 MANWARING): Quincy trail badged in Feb 2015 and re-reviewed in February 2024; trail to Malet was badged in July 2022. See the trail HERE.

John Stanley is also in unbadged trails (needing work) to the following Gateways:

• Humphrey Gateways (Daniel, Benjamin, Rebecca, and Anne) (MCA III:279-281 OWEN): trail has not yet been developed and is set out HERE.
• Owen Gateways (Rebecca, Joshua and Elizabeth) (MCA III:279-281 OWEN): trail has not yet been developed and is set out HERE.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".