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Margaret (Stanley) Grey (abt. 1435 - abt. 1481)

Margaret Grey formerly Stanley aka Troutbeck, Boteler
Born about in Lathom, Lancashire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Wife of — married 1449 (to 23 Sep 1459) in St Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, Englandmap
Wife of — married 12 Apr 1460 in Bewsey, Warrington, Lancashire, Englandmap
Wife of — married about 1465 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about [location unknown]
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Biography

Birth and Parentage

Margaret Stanley was the daughter of Sir Thomas Stanley KG, 1st Baron Stanley, and his wife Joan Goushill.[1]

Estimated birth date: A date of birth for her has not been found. If she was three years younger than her husband, born in 1432, she would have been born in 1435. If born in 1435, she would have been aged 9 at her 1444 marriage settlement, and aged 13 at the actual marriage in 1448, when her new husband was 16. This suggests that her actual birthdate may have been a year or two or three prior to 1435.

1448 First Marriage to Sir William Troutbeck

By settlement dated 17 Dec 1444 (when she was still a minor) she married (1st) Sir William Troutbeck.

Sir William Troutbeck, Knt, as he afterwards became, was twenty-five years of age when he inherited his father’s lands in 1458, having been born on the 20th July, 1432.[2]

He was married in 1448 to Margaret, daughter of Thomas, first Lord Stanley. [2]

It may be inferred that the 1444 settlement date was not the date of the actual marriage. In 1444, William Troutbeck, born in 1432, would have been 12.

They had three sons and two daughters.

1459 Death of Sir William in battle of Bloreheath

Sir William died in 1459.

He was unfortunately present at the fatal battle of Bloreheath, fought on the 23rd September, 1459, where, in common with so many of the Cheshire knights and squires, he lost his life, when only twenty-six years of age. As Drayton says, in his well-known Pelyolbion, referring to the battle,

Here Dutton, Duton kills; a Done doth kill a Done.
A Booth a Booth; and Leigh by Leigh is overthrown.
A Venables against a Venables doth stand,
and Troutbeck fighting with a Troutbeck hand to hand.
Then Molineux doth make a Molineux to die,
And Egerton the strength of Egerton doth try. [2]

His body was brought to Chester and buried in the chapel in St. Mary’s Church, where the handsome monument...depicting him at full length lying beside his wife, and situated on the south side of the chantry chapel, was most probably erected to his memory. Several Inquisitions were taken after his death in 1460, which refer to his lands in Cheshire, Shropshire, and Hertfordshire, and state that William, his son and heir, was then ten years of age.[2]

1460 Marriage to Sir John Boteler

By dispensation dated 23 Jan 1460 (ambiguous) (3rd and 3rd degrees, i.e. 2nd cousins) Margaret then married (2nd) Sir John Boteler of Bewsey (as his 3rd wife).[2]

They had 1 son, Sir Thomas.

Two of Margaret's children by her 1st marriage would later marry two of Sir John's children by his 1st marriage. Both of these marriages were childless. (PS Query that)

1465 Third Marriage to Sir Henry Grey

Sir John died about 1463.[2]

On 2 Oct 1465, Margaret married (3rd) Sir Henry Grey, commonly called the 7th Lord Grey of Codnor.

They had 1 daughter, Anne, but evidently no ongoing descendants, since Sir Henry's title fell into abeyance between his sisters.

1481 Death of Margaret

Margaret died around 1481, survived by her husband, who remarried but had no further issue.

Children

  1. Sir William Troutbeck, b. abt 1449, son and heir of Margaret and William Troutbeck. Age 10 in 1459 when his father was killed in battle. [2]
  2. Adam Troutbeck, son of Margaret and William Troutbeck.
  3. Thomas Troutbeck, son of Margaret and William Troutbeck.
  4. Joan Troutbeck, wife of Sir William Boteler of Bewsey and of Sir William Griffith (sr) or Penrhyn, daughter of Margaret and William Troutbeck.
  5. Elizabeth Troutbeck, wife of Sir Alexander Houghton, daughter of Margaret and William Troutbeck.
  6. Thomas Boteler, son of Margaret and Sir John Boteler.
  7. Anne Grey, daughter of Margaret and Sir Henry Grey

In addition, other children are shown as children by WikiTree who are not identified in the sources, or are shown by other sources without documentation:

  1. Mary Troutbeck
  2. Robert Troutbeck. Reported by Marlyn Lewis as an extra son Robert Troutbeck, but cites only LDS Family Group Sheets.

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 716.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 John Parsons Earwaker. The History of the Church and Parish of St. Mary-on-the-Hill, Chester. P. 184. https://books.google.com/books?id=sdsnAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA184#v=onepage&q&f=false. Accessed June 8, 2015

See also:

Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta ancestry
Margaret (Stanley) Grey is a descendant of Magna Carta surety barons John de Lacy, Gilbert de Clare, and others. She is on a badged trail to Gateway Ancester Elizabeth (Coytemore) Tyng and her brother.
  • Re-review needed: A review of attached profiles is needed. A profile for her daughter Elizabeth was recently detached/merged away (now Hough-2245; a replacement profile was created: Troutbeck-38).
  • Source Check needed: Royal Ancestry references need to be incorporated into existing references or added with full reference, as appropriate. ~ Noland-165 10:44, 28 December 2017 (EST)




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Children by William Troutbeck: William, Adam, Thomas, Alice, Jane and Elizabeth.
posted by Nancy (Diener) Regan
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), TROUTBECK #11. Margaret Stanley

Google Books, snippit view (search Troutbeck - see p 211): https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&source=gbs_navlinks_s

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
My wife's GM Grace (nee Butler) and GF Kenneth Faulk were married and BOTH are direct descendants of Margaret Stanley, one through Thomas Butler and the other through Joan Troutbeck. They are both gone now but I wonder if they had any idea that they were distantly related.
posted by Michael Constable
settlement for marriage of margaret and william Troutbeck was made 17 Dec 1444. Had 3 sons (William, Adam, Thomas)and 2 daughters(Joan and Elizabeth).

Margaret and John Boteler obtained marriage license 23 Jan 1460. date of dispensation for being related in 3rd and 3rd degrees of kindred. His 3rd wife. They had one son THomas Margaret married Henry Grey 2 Oct 1465 and had one daughter Anne.

I have marked Margaret Stanley (Stanley-420) and Margaret Stanley (Stanley-51) as an Unmatched Merge until I can do further research. The marriage dates and birth dates of the children hint that these may be two different women, with Stanley-420 already having been incorrectly merged.
posted by Vic Watt
I have marked Margaret Stanley (Stanley-420) and Margaret Stanley (Stanley-51) as an Unmatched Merge until I can do further research. The marriage dates and birth dates of the children hint that these may be two different women, with Stanley-420 already having been incorrectly merged.
posted by Vic Watt

Margaret is 25 degrees from Ludwig Kraayenbrink, 4 degrees from Henry VIII of England and 24 degrees from Ferdinand von Zeppelin on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.