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Robert Stewart (1655 - 1714)

Robert "The Covenanter" Stewart
Born in Gartnafuaran, Balquhidder, Perthshire, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1680 in Scotlandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 59 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Robert Stewart is a member of Clan Stewart.
This profile is part of the Stewart Name Study.

Robert was born in 1655 very probably in Gartnafuaran, Balquhidder Parish, Perthshire, Scotland. He was a younger son of Walter Stewart, 7th of Gartnafuaran, 1620–1668 and his wife Isobel Stewart of the Stewarts of Glenbuckie 1616–1660. He was a Scottish Covenanter who fought at the Battle of Bothwell Brigg on 22 June 1679. After the Covenanters were routed at that battle, Robert fled to Ulster in Ireland, where he was present during the Siege of Londonderry in 1689. His family later lived in Aghadowey in County Londonderry.

He died in 1714, and a family tradition handed down by his grandchildren says he died in Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland.[1] After his death, his widow and children left Ireland in 1718 with the congregation of Rev. James MacGregor of Aghadowey, settling in Nutfield (later called Londonderry) in New Hampshire in 1719.

Marriage

Robert Stewart was married to Jeanette Forsythe in 1679 or 1680 in Scotland.

Children

  • 1. John Stewart. b. 1682 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. - d. 1741.
  • 3. Samuel Stewart, who returned to Scotland from New Hampshire.

Note: Some genealogists erroneously claim that Robert and Jeanette had a son named Alexander, but no contemporary or near contemporary source ever mentions a son of that name.

Sources

  1. https://archive.org/details/genealogybiograp00lcseve/page/32/mode/2up?q=Edinburgh Genealogy and biography of the descendants of Walter Stewart of Scotland, and of John Stewart, by Severance, Benjamin Frank, pp.33-34
  • Birth. "Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR3H-3Y4 : accessed 19 July 2015), Robert Stewart in entry for Ann Stewart, ; citing SAINT MICHAN,DUBLIN,DUBLIN,IRELAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 0824048 IT 1.
  • Legacy NFS Source: Robert Stewart -Published information: birth-name: John Stewart Published information: male Published information: birth: 1650; Balquhidder, Perthshire, Scotland Published information: death: February 1675; Scotland Published information: birth-name: Robert Stewart Published information: male Published information: birth: 1655; Perth, Perthshire, Scotland Published information: death: 1714; Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Published information: birth-name: John Stuart Published information: male Published information: birth: 1665; Perth, Perthshire, Scotland Published information: death:




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Some genealogists have attempted to link Alexander Stewart of Chester, Pennsylvania, as a son (even the eldest son) of this Robert Stewart. However, the only known children of Robert Stewart are those listed in the 1818 and 1819 letters of Robert's grandson Joseph Stewart -- namely, John (whom Joseph said was the eldest), Robert, Samuel, and a daughter Juliana (whom Joseph called Julieyn). Given that Robert's father was named Walter, it is probable (based on the old Scottish naming tradition) that Robert's otherwise unknown eldest son was named Walter, who must have died in infancy or childhood. The next son then would be John, who would have been named most likely after his mother's father. But there is no record of any son of Robert named Alexander, nor would the Scottish naming tradition have made a son of that name very likely in Robert and Janette's family.

The only really unusual name among Robert's sons was Samuel. Certain Scottish Presbyterian covenanting families preferred that biblical name, apparently due to the role of the Hebrew prophet Samuel in propounding a kind of covenant delineating the role of Israel's king (in I Samuel 8:9-18). I suppose that is why Robert and Janette chose that name for one of their sons, because it does not appear as a family name prior to this generation.

posted by Jared Olar
edited by Jared Olar
I was sent this recently concerning this line:

Records of Sir BERNARD BURKE

1. Sir JOHN STUART Perthshire Scotland 2. WALTER STUART-Perthshire Scotland 3. ROBERT STUART born 1656 Perthshire Scotland Died 1714 Edinburg Scotland. he was a Convenanter, fled Ireland during The Reign of JAMES. He settled in Londonderry. After Peace was restored he returned to Edinburg where he died. He married JANETTE FORSYTHE. After his death JANETTE FORSYTHE STUART came to America Her Children were: JOHN ROBERT JULIA ANN SAMUEL ALEXANDER:

ALEXANDER STUART Born 1680 Edinburg, Scotland Died 1714 married 1704 MARY BAILEY-Daughter of JOEL and ANN SHORT BAILEY of Chester County Pennsylvania{ See Bailey Book from BRONEHAM, Wiltshire England } ALEXANDER STUART arrived in America as a Bound Boy assuming his father had lost much of his possessions during The Reign of JAMES VII and KING WILLIAM

CHILDREN: JANE Born 1709 Married 1730 JOSIAH TAYLOR ROBERT Born 1710 Married MARTHA RICHARDSON 1732 ANN born 1712 Married 1734 HENRY MARSH MARY, Born 1714 Married JOSEPH TAYLOR

ROBERT STEWART Born 1710 Chester County Penn. died 1783 married MARTHA RICHARDSON Daughter of ISAAC and CATHERINE GANDY RICHARDSON from England

Records of Wilkes County Georgia of Wills 1792-1801 Page 54 STEWART-MARTHA To esch of My Children: ELIZABETH. JEHU. ISAAC--CATHERINE--GRAVENOR--RACHEL--and HANNAH, Five Shillings each. To Grandaughter MARTHA BROOKS, Feather Bed when she is 18 To Son AMOS 150 acres of Land whereon My Son GRAVENOR now lives, Cattle etc. AMOS to Be the Sole Executor, March 27 1791 Probated September 20 1793 JESSEE PUGH WItness

posted by Joshua Stewart
Mr GEORGE EDSON

CLATHE KANSAS January 20 1959

I Have Your Letter of Inquiry of December 27

It Says: You are correctly informed. ELIZABETH STEWART was a Daughter of ROBERT and MARTHA RICHARDSON STEWART and ROBERT was The Son of ALEXANDER STEWART of KENNET TOWNSHIP ,CHESTER PENNSYLVANIA. This Family has been rather well looked up and considerable information about these STEWARTS has been printed in STEWART CLAN MAGAZINE in the Years Past. A Book was printed about them by one of the STEWARTS who heads Carnation Milk Company in Seattle. a copy of which I have and which gives credit to STEWART CLAN MAGAZINE for established the Line of ROBERT STEWART. Although a Quaker, took some part in The Revolutionary War and The Settlers who escaped Massacre took Refuge in South Carolina until Hostilities ceased. Their having taken part in the War resulted in ROBERT'S Son's quitting the Quaker Connection Their Grandfather ALEXANDER STEWART was not originally a Quaker, but he married a Quaker Girl in Pennsylvania. He was a Bound Boy, imported from Scotland and sold into Bondage to Pay The Passage. His fathers name is unknown, but the presumption is that this Family of Stewarts lost its possessions during some Trouble in The Reigns of King JAMES VII and KING WILLIAM.


YOURS TRULY GEORGE EDSON.

posted by Joshua Stewart
George Thomas Edson, editor of a newsletter called "Stewart Clan Magazine," lived in Olathe, Kansas, not "Clathe."

Edson correctly describes the family of Alexander Stewart of Chester. Note that he does NOT link Alexander to the Stewarts of Londonderry, New Hampshire. Edson was himself a descendant of the Stewart of Londonderry and he knew that Robert Stewart, Covenanter, never had any son named Alexander.

posted by Jared Olar
edited by Jared Olar
The account you provide has several problems.

First of all, there is no basis for "SIr John Stuart Perthshire Scotland" as father of Walter Stewart/Stuart from Perthshire. The research of the late Philip B. Stewart II, aided by Scots genealogists Kenneth Robertson and James Dinwoodie, shows Walter to have been Walter Stewart, 7th of (or "in", rather) Gartnafuaran in Perthshire, and Walter's father was named Andrew, not John.

Robert Stuart/Stewart, Covenanter, married Janette (Jeanette, Jonet, Janet) Forsyth and has four known children: John, Robert, Julia Ann, and Samuel. (Some sources mistakenly break Julia Ann into two separate daughters, but Joseph Stewart's 1818 letter calls her "Julieyn" or Julian, i.e. Juliana or Julianne.)

Robert and Janette certainly had no son named Alexander. The parents of Alexander Stuart/Stewart of Chester Co., Pennsylvania, are unknown and probably will always be unknown, but DNA tests of Alexander's descendants indicate that he was descended in the male line from the MacRaes, and thus was not a Stewart in the male line.

There is no evidence linking Alexander Stuart to the family of Robert and Janette, nor any evidence that he had anything to do with any Stewart family of Perthshire. No one know where Alexander Stuart of Chester Co., Penn., was born, and there is no basis for the claim that Alexander had arrived in America "assuming his father had lost much of his possessions." Rather, some genealogists wrongly inserted Alexander into Robert's family just because they were casting about looking for Alexander's parents.

Why did they choose to insert their Alexander into my ancestral Stewart family?

I think it is because they found the old published genealogy written by B. Frank Severance, "The Descendants of Walter Stewart of Perthshire." In that book, Severance published two letters written in 1818 and 1819 by Joseph Stewart, a grandson of Robert Stewart, Covenanter. In those letters, Joseph provides valuable information on his family and the life and times of his grandparents. In the 1818 letter, Joseph also mentions another, related Stewart family, the Stewarts of Colrain, Massachusetts, who descended from "Young James" Stewart of Colrain, son of "Old Father James" Stewart of Colrain. Young James was the third husband of Margaret Stewart (who is my own ancestress), daughter of Charles Stewart, son of John Stewart, eldest son of Robert Stewart, Covenanter.

Joseph Stewart says Young James had a younger brother named ALEXANDER who owned a "catalogue" of the Stewart family that traced the genealogy of Robert Stewart, Covenanter, and the genealogy of "Old Father James" Stewart of Colrain. Joseph says both Robert Stewart and "Old Father James" Stewart belonged to branches of the Royal Stewarts. in his 1818 letter, Joseph says it had been some years since he'd been able to consult Alexander Stewart's "catalogue," so he couldn't remember the details of their royal ancestry, because, Joseph says, Alexander had "carried off" the catalogue with him when Alexander moved to PENNSYLVANIA.

So, I suspect that this reference to an Alexander Stewart and Pennsylvania gave some of the descendants of Alexander Stuart of Chester Co. the idea that there must have been a connection between their Alexander Stuart and my Stewarts, the Stewarts of Londonderry, New Hampshire. And then looking at the probable year of birth for their Alexander, they decided he must have been the otherwise unknown eldest son of Robert and Janette. (Of course, the Alexander Stewart mentioned by Joseph Stewart was a son of Old Father James Stewart of Colrain, and was only related to the family of Robert and Janette through the marriage of Young James Stewart to Robert's great-granddaughter Margaret. The Stewarts of Londonderry, New Hampshire, and the Stewarts of Colrain, Massachusetts, were two separate Stewart families, both of royal origin but not closely related other than through marriage. A Big-Y700 DNA test this month has proven that Old Father James was descended from the Stewarts of Blackhall and Ardgowan, just as Joseph Stewart said in his 1818 letter. But Robert Stewart, Covenanter, came from the Stewarts of Gartnafuaran. The Blackhall line goes back to an illegitimate son of King Robert III, while the Gartnauaran line goes back to Murdoch Stewart, 2nd Duke of Albany, nephew of King Robert III.)

But there's never been a shred of evidence to support the placement of Alexander Stuart of Chester as a son of Robert Stewart, Covenanter -- and now that false parentage is spread all over the internet and infects countless Ancestry.com family trees. It even made it here on Wikitree, but thankfully that error has been corrected.

posted by Jared Olar
edited by Jared Olar
Jared,

You are more knowledgeable about this line than myself, so, my question is:

According to your research, the information sent to me (that I have posted here) is mostly correct, save the son Alexander Stewart, which is an error. Is this correct?

If not, please give me a short summary of which children are supported or proven, and which children are not.

Thank you!

posted by Joshua Stewart
Seem my above reply. Yes, Alexander Stuart of Chester was certainly not a son of Robert Stewart, Covenanter. Also, Walter Stewart "of Perthshire" (specifically, of Gartnafuaran in Perthshire) was not a son of any "Sir John Stuart of Perthshire," whoever he was (this "Sir John" probably never existed).
posted by Jared Olar
This is as I suspected and my research supports the fact that there are a couple, perhaps even a few, Stewart lines out of Chester County, PA that have been historically conflated. They might be cousins lines, or as in this case, attributed to the wrong family altogether.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this family. I think Alexander belongs to another Chester County, PA Stewart family.

posted by Joshua Stewart
I have found family connections for a Thomas Stewart, James Stewart, and Matthew Stewart out of Chester County, PA. I think Alexander belongs to this line of Stewart as well.

He seems guilty by association, and intermarriage.

posted by Joshua Stewart
edited by Joshua Stewart
I have found intermarriage links between the following Revolutionary War Pension applications:

James Stewart (Steurt) S7620 Guilford County, NC

Thomas Stewart --Rev War Pension S31998 Born Cumberland Pennsylvania To Mecklenburg NC to Wilkes and Greene Co Ga. to Alabama.

SAMUEL JACK Rev War Pension SC4216 Captain John McClure Col Edward Lacey

Amos stewart Rev war pension R10161 South Carolina

I think Amos descends from Robert and Martha (Richardson) Stewart.

I think the Alexander that has been mistakenly attributed to your Gartnafuaran line actually belongs to the line of Thomas Stewart and James Stewart above.

posted by Joshua Stewart
edited by Joshua Stewart
Allan Stuart did not add this profile it was added by the Profile Manager
posted on Stewart-26825 (merged) by Allan Stuart
Stewart-27402 and Stewart-14284 appear to represent the same person because: Obvious duplicate same father , mother, wife, children, etc.
posted by Allan Stuart
Stuart-164 and Stewart-14284 appear to represent the same person because: Same DoB, same Parents, same Siblings, same Wife. dfferent LNAB (spelling)
posted by Allan Stuart
notes on cousin cousin marriages in the stewart line

Andrew Stewart, 3rd of Gartnafuaran, married his cousin (NN) Stewart, daughter of Patrick Stewart, 2nd of Glenbuckie.

Andrew Stewart, 6th. of Gartnafuaran, who married his cousin Margaret Stewart, daughter of Alexander Stewart, 1st. of Ardvorlich.

source: http://www.chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/history/Gartnafueran.htm

Walter Stewart, 7th. of Gartnafuaran, born 1620, who married his first cousin Isobel Stewart, daughter of John Stewart, 6th. ofGlenbuckie. Isobel’s mother was also named Isobel, sister of Walter’s mother Margaret.

posted by Robbin Stewart
https://archive.org/stream/genealogyandbio00sevegoog#page/n6/mode/2up

Genealogy and Biography of the Descendants of Walter Stewart of Scotland ... by Benjamin Frank Severance

Published 1905

posted by Robbin Stewart
http://maley.net/transcription/Stewart/Stewart1-5.htm

this page is not about our stewarts, but covers the period well

posted by Robbin Stewart
R1b1b2a1a2f* is a subgroup of R1b1b2 - that's the 23andme notation. robert is in my male line, so this should be his marker too.

robbin stewart, 2015.

update this haplogroup is now known as R-L21.

posted by Robbin Stewart
John, Stewart-7412, can not be the son - he was born about 1660 when Robert was 5 years old. A little young to be a father, even for a Scot.
posted by Philip Smith

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