John  Stewart

John Stewart (abt. 1440 - 1512)

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Sir John "of Balveny, Earl of Atholl" Stewart
Born about in Mortlach, Banffshire, Scotlandmap
Husband of — married in Perth, Perthshire, Scotlandmap
Husband of — married [location unknown]
Died in Laighwood, Perthshire, Scotlandmap
Stewart-1555 created 27 Mar 2011 | Last modified | Last edit: 29 Jan 2017
17:30: Andrew Turvey edited a message from Andrew Turvey on the page for John Stewart. [Thank Andrew for this]
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Categories: Clan Stewart | Magna Carta | Bigod-1 Descendants | Bigod-2 Descendants | Clare-673 Descendants | Clare-651 Descendants | Quincy-226 Descendants | De Vere-309 Descendants | Earls of Atholl.

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Preceded by
First of that title (8th creation)
1st Earl of Atholl
1457-September 15 1512
Succeeded by
Sir John Stewart
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John Stewart is a descendant of a Magna Carta surety baron.
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John Stewart is a descendant of Magna Carta surety barons Robert de Vere,
Hugh Bigod , Roger Bigod, Gilbert de Clare , Richard de Clare and Saher de Quincy

He was the oldest child of Joan Beaufort, widow of James I of Scotland, and her second husband Sir James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn. He became Earl of Atholl in or before 1457.

He has been confused with another John Stewart, the son of Sir Alan Stewart and Catherine Seton. Joan's husbands have also been confused in the past.

John was married twice. By his first wife, Margaret Douglas he had six daughters:

Janet, m. Alexander Gordon, Master of Huntly.
Catherine, m. John Forbes.
Elizabeth, m. Andrew Gray, Lord Gray.
3 additional daughters.

By his second wife, Eleanor Sinclair he had the following children:

John, 2nd Earl of Atholl, m. Janet Campbell.
Andrew, Bishop of Caithness.
Jean, m. Sir Robert Gordon of Pitlurgo. Source: Scotts Peerage under Atholl> and/or James Arbuthnott of Arbuthnott Sources: Scots Peerage V. 1 p 308 under Arbuthnott and Douglas Richardson.
Elspeth, m. Robert Innes of Innermarky.
Marjory, m Sir Colin Campbell of Glenurchy.
Margaret, m. m Sir William Murray of Tullibardine.
Isabel, m. Alexander Robertson of Struan.
Elisabeth, m.1 John Stuart, Earl of Lennox and m.2 Ninian Lord Ross.
Christian, m. Neil Stuart of Garth.
Margaret or Isabel, m. Robert Robertson of Struan.

There are conflicts among the reputable sources about which wife had which daughters (Catherine and Jean), and in one case (Jean) the name of her husband. One Jean is assigned to two husbands, not necessarily incorrectly, but with no indication she had two husbands. It is even possible that there were three daughters, some incorrectly translated in English as Jean. There is a primary source quoted in Scots Peerage that makes one Jean clearly wife of Arbuthnott. Richardson in "Royal Ancestry" agrees. No secondary source quotes a primary source for Catherine. Richardson quotes a very reputable secondary source (Andrew MacEwen in "The Genealogist" (USA) Vol 2 Issue1) about Sinclair, but that article is silent about this question. In a private message he states he cannot at this time provide a reason for his choice, and Mr. MacEwen, the expert on these matters, died before he could be contacted.


Place: Cathedral, Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland


  • Source: Douglas Richardson, "Magna Carta Ancestry 1st edition" , Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 2005. p 780.

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On 29 Jan 2017 at 22:16 GMT Andrew Turvey wrote:

The family link shows two Margaret daughters - Margaret Stewart (1476 - 1524) (Stewart-1620) and Margaret Stewart (1487 - 1524) (Stewart-9840).

The text refers to Margaret (Stewart-1620) m. Sir William Murray of Tullibardine. However, when you click on that link it doesn't give a husband. However, when you click on Stewart-9840 is gives as husband WIlliam Murray (Murray-3842), Lord of Castleton, son of the 9th Lord of Tallibardine.

It also shows that their children were born in 1495, 1498, 1500 and 1502. This means the younger daughter couldn't be the mother.

Does this mean: a) They are the same person, or b) The link in the text is to the wrong daughter, or c) The wrong daughter has been linked to William Murray?

On 2 Jul 2015 at 13:14 GMT James McDonald wrote:

There are serious controversies about the children of this person. I have tried to provide a concise summary. There is, as of July 2, 2015, no resolution to these questions.

On 11 Jun 2015 at 16:11 GMT James McDonald wrote:

Merged away Unknown-58628

On 21 Mar 2015 at 19:25 GMT Cindy (Roberts) May wrote:

UNKNOWN-58628 and Stewart-1555 appear to represent the same person because: Same parents. Should be merged.

On 17 Nov 2013 at 21:04 GMT Maria Maxwell wrote:,_1st_Earl_of_Atholl

This is a different John Stewart to Stewart-1388 who was Earl of Lennox

John is 17 degrees from Kevin Bacon, 14 degrees from Abraham Lincoln, 19 degrees from Ayn Rand, 20 degrees from Peter Roberts and 15 degrees from Queen Elizabeth II of the Commonwealth Realms on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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