Shirley (Strutton) Dalton
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Shirley (Strutton) Dalton

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Shirley A. Dalton formerly Strutton aka Loreman
Born 1940s.
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I am a great-grandmother with a passion for genealogy and history. When I was young, I wanted to be an archaeologist. That went away when marriage and children arrived. Although I still keep up with what's new in the field.

By education and career, I became an accountant (retired now). Maybe that's why I still like to clean up messes in genealogy. Everything has to be fact-based and accurate. The books need to balance.

Have been working on my family history for over forty years. I was really delighted when the internet came along. The resources available now from my kitchen workspace and computer were totally out of reach for most of my life. With so much data and online documentation available for the asking, I am continually amazed that people don't make use of it. They still rely on the work of other people and pass along un-documented, often inaccurate "family trees" as if they were gospel.

I'm still trying to get all my own research added to WikiTree, but I am often sidetracked by another mess to clean up. So I will be at it for a long time (hopefully) yet.


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Hello Shirley,

We wrote to you about the changes in the Profile Improvement Project (PIP) a couple of weeks ago. If you would like to continue with the Project, we can place you in the Biography Team, Level 1 where you can work on improving profiles from your own watchlist to Level 1 of the Profile Standards.

We would like to hear from you with any ideas or suggestions. If you do not wish to participate in the Project, please let us know. If we don’t hear from you within 7 days we will remove you from the Project, but we will welcome you back at any time.

Sincerely,

Debi Hoag and Robin Shaules Co-Leaders, Profile Improvement Project

posted by Robin (Dodge) Shaules
Dear Shirley,

The Profile Improvement Project (PIP) is performing its first annual check-in with our project members. We are in the process of transitioning to a team structure. There will be three participant PIP Teams to start -- The Maintenance Category Team, the Unknowns Team, and the Biography Team. There is also the Voyage Team who guide new Voyagers. See the Profile Improvement Project Teams for a brief outline of each team. Please let us know which team(s) you would like to participate in.

Thank you for being a member of the project. You're currently identified as a member of the Biography Team Level 1. If you would prefer a different or additional Team, please let us know. You joined the Project before the Voyage started in late 2018, we would like to invite you to consider a "fast track" Voyage, especially if you plan to join the Biography Team. If you’re interested, choose a profile that you have completed to the best of your ability and compare it to the Voyage Biography Standards. If your profile is at Level 2 or better, include a link to the profile in your response to this check-in for a “fast track” review.

We would also like to invite you to join the email GoogleGroup and text chat Discord channel for our project. (When you request to join our GoogleGroup, please be sure to include your Wiki ID). You will find more information on the GoogleGroup. https://groups.google.com/d/forum/wtprofileimprovement

We thank you for all you do to help the Profile Improvement Project and WikiTree. The Project’s mission is to:

Make profiles beautiful! We clean up messy biography sections and sources, and try to set standards for attractive, useful, and well-written biographies, starting with those we manage.

We know you’re working on profiles *smile* We would like to hear about successes you’ve had toward the Project’s goals. We would also appreciate any feedback you might have to help us improve the Project. Please share your thoughts in a reply to this comment or privately via private message to either of us.

Sincerely,

posted by Robin (Dodge) Shaules
Robin,

Thank you for outlining the new Team structure for PIP. I am not currently working on my own family line as I feel I have added all the information I can to those profiles. I am, in fact, going through my watchlist to remove as many profiles as I can to get it down to a manageable size and include only my direct ancestors. Since I have almost 5,000 profiles in my watchlist, that will take some time.

I am not particularly skilled at writing interesting biographies and "making profiles shine." I am better at researching and adding sources to those profiles needing them.

Currently I am working mostly on 17th century profiles in Virginia Colony. Many need dates and locations and most need sources. Quite a few early families have been incorrectly linked together with the wrong parents attached, conflated profiles, etc. It can sometimes be difficult to sort out families with the same or similar names. Even those profiles which have profile managers have often not been worked on in months or years since they were added. Many are the result of Gedcom uploads before our current protocols were established.

I am not sure where this work would fit into your current Team structure. Let me know what team would best fit the work I am doing. I probably will continue to work in this area for the foreseeable future.

Good luck with the new structure. Teams seem to work will on other projects so I hope it will for this project as well.

Shirley

Thank you for your E-mail message. I realize my mistake now. I will continue looking for a source that can prove Thompson Burke's birth date.

Anne Massey

posted by Anne Massey
You're quite welcome. I do hope you can find a source for Thompson Burke's profile, since I have not been able to.

Shirley

Thank you for your contribution of John Lewis.
posted by Roni Hall
It looks like your email got hacked and is sending out spam, I got this email today:
Hi,
Could you please spare a minute to assist me in completing a personal task discreetly today?
Would be glad to receive your response through email ASAP, because i'm presently in a meeting now and am limited to calls.
Shirley Dalton
posted by William Foster Jr
Yep, I got hacked. Thanks for letting me know you got one and hope you didn't reply to it. I've been dealing with the fallout all morning. Really a pain.

Shirley

All good, just wanted to make sure you knew.
posted by William Foster Jr
I received something from you too - glad you're on it.
posted by Scott Fulkerson
ooh - a breakthrough!! I've been going through the copy of Hotten on archive.org, checking the compiled Abigail passenger list info to what's in it... and guess what? We have two sets of William and Joane Hampton!!

Two William Hampton/Joane Hampton entries:

  1. William (40, in Bona Nova, 1620) and Joane (25, in Abigail, 1621) are listed under the muster of Edward Waters.
  2. William (34, in the Bona Nova, 1621) and Joane (no additional info), with John Arndell under "William Hampton his MUSTER" (just before entry for "Anthonie Bonall his MUSTER")
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I don't want to hear two William and Joane entries!!!!

No idea who the first William Hampton in muster of Edward Waters could be. Is it close match enough to be a duplicate of #2? Although if a duplicate, why in someone else's muster?

The second one with John Arndell in household is probably the one connected to Peter Arundell. Also I think the next entry, Anthonie Bonall, is one of the winegrowers who, along with Peter Arundell, were sent over by the Virginia Company. And we know Peter's son John was to take over the silkworm and wine business after Peter died.

definitely not duplicates & yes, Peter/John Arundell & Anthonie Bonall are the same as sent to establish silk & wine industries. The ages for the two William Hamptons are different (34 & 40). Perhaps cousins?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Could be cousins. A reminder to always make sure we have the right family. Good catch.
Hi Shirley! Thanks for your work on the Arundells. I thought I'd let you know that I'm taking a break. Hope I didn't cause an Edit Conflict for you with John Arundell-52.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi, Liz! Didn't cause me any problem. I got involved in additional info on Peter Arundell. Did you know according to sources, Peter was born in Normandy? And was an author. I did note your suggestion John might not be son of Peter and Elizabeth. I'll see if I can find confirmation.

Have a great day! Shirley

you found it! This page - https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/arundell/22/ - has a lot of Peter's correspondence, including one that has the statement that John is his oldest son. I'm convinced that Peter is John's father (not convinced about Elizabeth as mother yet, but getting there).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thought I remembered seeing something about John. Meant to check on it today. On Elizabeth I'm not sure. On the 1623/24 muster Elizabeth Arrundell is listed with Margrett Arrundell at the end of the list for Bucke Row. Peter and John are several lines up. I'm curious about Richard Arrundell. Is he kin to Peter, et al? He's in the household of Sir George Yeardley, James City, on both musters of 1623/24 and 1624/25. On the second muster, after Peter's death, Elizabeth Arrundell is also in Sir George's household. One or two places I read the suggestion that Elizabeth might be another daughter of Peter, instead of wife. Think that needs checking into.
I'm thinking so too. I've been intrigued a couple of times when encountering info about the Virginia Company's wine and silk enterprises. As I was trying to sort out the "who's who" aboard the Abigail and at Buck Row, I was getting "in the weeds" for John's profile, so I started a space page - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Wine_and_Silk_and_the_Virginia_Company ... really rough at the moment, but I needed somewhere to put the info I thought had gotten to be too much for John's profile. In looking into the various lists, I kinda like Potter's suggestion that Humphrey Kent was the husband of one of Peter's children, which is why Margaret went to live with them after Peter died. But I can't find much support for that. Joanne Kent in the 1624/5 muster says she came aboard the Tyger (but maybe that was a way Peter was able to get her free passage? Women to Jamestown is another intriguing topic to me). Elizabeth, who is later the wife of Hainey, came with John aboard the Abigail in 1621. I cannot see an 18-year-old son (even considering maturity/responsibility levels of the time) being in charge of a 5-year-old sibling during an ocean crossing, but I could see him being in charge of two sisters - Elizabeth & Margaret. I think that the list of the living would have called her vx Arrundell like the other wives listed, not Elizabeth Arrundell, if she had been Peter's wife.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I like your space page. Lots of information. Regarding Joane Kent coming in the Tyger, have you noted in one of Peter's letters to Sir Edwin Sandys that he makes reference to his "Sonne in lawe Captaine Mansell (who is dead). ..." I've found the suggestion that Joane Arundell, Peter's daughter, was first married to Captain Mansell. Possibly they came together in the Tyger and after his death she married Humphrey Kent.
I like that thought too! (Off to look for Tyger passenger list.)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
ps - I found Peter's death in one of the books (Hotten, I think, but I cannot find it now). Then I found him in the online Jamestown Musters: http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/search.muster.cgi?database=deaths_1624&search_type=basic&start_page=0&last=ar%25&first=&age-op=&age1=&age2=&year=
Peeter Mr Arndell, died 1624, beyond Hampton River

Also wonder if this might be him: http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/search.muster.cgi?database=deaths_1624&search_type=basic&start_page=0&last=&first=&loc=Elzabeth+Cittie%2C+Elzabeth+Cittie&age-op=&age1=&age2=&year=

Peeter name not given, buried 16 May 1624
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Problem with burial date. Peter is supposed to have gotten a patent for 200 acres in November 1624. It's on that genforum posting cited on his profile. Need to verify that.
you're right... I was thinking maybe that's when the list was compiled, but pp 6-7 Cavaliers & Pioneers confirms the November 1624 date.

https://archive.org/details/cavalierspioneer00nuge/page/6/mode/2up?view=theater&q=arundell

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Problem with your comment "Elizabeth, who is later the wife of Hainey." Elizabeth Arundell, daughter of Peter, could not have been the Elizabeth who married John Hayney. His future wife is said to have arrived on the Abigail in 1622 and stated her age as 54 in Northumberland County Court in April 1635, birth date 1581. [http://www.oocities.org/ejhitt/hayniecontrov.html) The date of arrival could have been mis-remembered and actually have been the trip of Feb 1620/21. Neither reference to Elizabeth Arundell in Hotten (or elsewhere) gives her age. If she married John Hayney, she would have to have been Peter's wife/widow, not his daughter.

Do we have confirmation that it was "Elizabeth Arundell" who married John Hayney?

You're right, I made an assumption based on insufficient info & compiled passenger lists. Thanks for keeping me honest!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Shirley oh my

There is another Governor Thomas Gates.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gates-2149

He is on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Jamestown%2C_Virginia_Colony which is chock full of sources throughout and at bottom. He died in England.

I put the two sources for his immigration 1609 on Sea Venture, which wrecked on Bermuda and present in Jamestown.

I will check with you again in 4 hours...

Mary

posted by Mary Richardson
Ok, in the meantime I am continuing to research my Thomas Gates which involves removing incorrect sons and wife and creating a new wife for him. Yes, I have sources for these changes!
Shirley,

I just discovered your name and Gedmatch number while reviewing my Thomas Alexander Bass, who I believe is likely my third great-grandfather. When I compared our results, we indeed had a match on two chromosomes. (17 and 22). I am A020613.

posted by Kimberly Brown
Hi Shirley, my Bass cuz!

I'm not finding a Nansemond Tribe Project. Any plans of creating one, especially now being federally recognized?

Thanks, Patty:)

P.S. I changed on a couple pages the new Haliwa website url.

posted by Patty (Luker) LaPlante
edited by Patty (Luker) LaPlante
Hi Shirley,

As you may have seen, we have been doing some restructuring in the US Southern Colonies Project and are now organising ourselves into different teams. We have also changed the criteria for membership. Please have a look at the new project pages, and let me know whether you would like to remain in the project and, if so, which team(s) you would like to be in.

Please can you also send me your e-mail address. I can then make sure you are introduced to your Team Leaders and are in the Google Group.

Please note that it is a requirement for membership in the US Southern Colonies Project that you respond to these check-ins. We’re really excited for the future of the project and hope that you decide to be a part of it with us moving forwards.

Many thanks,

Susie, US Southern Colonies Project Co-Leader