Mark Sutherland-Fisher Esq. OStJ
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Mark Sutherland-Fisher Esq. OStJ

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I am fairly unusual among Wikitree members in that all my ancestors for at least three centuries were born and lived in the British Isles and more generally other than my original Flemish Sutherland ancestors and the odd Viking and Anglo-Saxon or two have all been born on these islands for at least 1000 years. My DNA is 95% British and Northern European and 5% Norwegian. My areas of expertise are Scottish Clans and the Scottish Nobility and I am always happy to try and assist others who venture into the little world my brain inhabits most of the time. Enjoy Wikitree and remember be polite to others. We are all volunteers.
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Mark Sutherland-Fisher Esq. OStJ was born in Scotland.
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Mark Sutherland-Fisher Esq. OStJ is a member of Clan Sutherland.

Mark attended Allan Glen's School, Glasgow 1972-1978 and was in the final year's private school intake before Glasgow Corporation forced it into the council-run comprehensive system. One of the younger members of the Labour dominated Glasgow Corporation at that time was a Labour Councillor, now the Rt.Hon. Sir Vince Cable P.C., M.P., former Leader of the Liberal Democrat party.

Mark's parents were actively involved in community activities and in particular the Boys' Brigade. The 101st Glasgow Company was based in Balshagray Parish Church, Broomhill, Glasgow which both were members of. Jack was an Officer in the Junior Section then called "the Life Boys" and Margaret was a Leader in the youngest Section known as "the Shipmates".

Between the ages of 5 and 8, Mark attended the Shipmates. Between the ages of 8 and 12, Mark attended the Life Boys. Between the ages of 12 and 18 Mark attended the Boys' Brigade. During his passage through the Boys' Brigade, Mark attained the various ranks and on leaving, was commissioned as an Officer in which role he served until his University studies had to take priority. In 1978 Mark received the highest award when he was appointed a "Queen's Man. In the same year, Mark led his team of 4 to success as Top-of-the-Form Champions at the United Kingdom and Ireland Final held in Southampton. The quiz was based on the then popular television quiz programme and followed a similar format with questions for individual members and team rounds. During his years in the Boys' Brigade, one of Mark's friends and colleagues was David Moyes who went on to play professional football at a number of clubs including Glasgow Celtic but is best known as a professional football manager at Preston North End, Everton and Manchester United, following in the footsteps of Sir Alex Ferguson, himself an ex-Glasgow Boys' Brigade member.

From an early age, Mark developed an interest in local and national politics. Between 1973 and 1996 he was actively involved in the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Association serving at many levels and in the 1980s was Chairman of the Northern Area, Scotland when Raymond Robertson (subsequently MP for Aberdeen South) and Jackson Carlaw C.B.E. (formerly Leader of the Scottish Conservative Party at Holyrood and currently MSP for Eastwood) served as Scottish Chairmen and the Rt.Hon. Dr Liam Fox (formerly Secretary of State for International Trade and Secretary of State for Defence in the Westminster Government) served as Scottish Vice Chairman.

Politics was in Mark's blood. A number of members of his extended family held political office in the United Kingdom and various Commonwealth Countries. Best known is probably the Rt.Hon. Thomas Johnston C.H., F.R.S.E. P.C.. who served as Secretary of State for Scotland in Winston Churchill's War Cabinet 1941-1945.

In 1982 while in the middle of studying for his honours examinations, Mark stood as the Conservative Candidate for the then Strathclyde Regional Council seat of Mount Vernon/Baillieston coming 2nd behind the sitting Labour councillor David Hay.

In 1987 Mark stood at the United Kingdom General Election as the Conservative Candidate for the Glasgow Shettleston Constituency coming 2nd behind the sitting Labour member David Marshall. The candidates in the adjacent seats were the Hon. Sir Bernard Jenkin and his future wife the Hon. Anne Strutt, now Baroness Jenkin. All 3 candidates were supported during the campaign at a public meeting held in Mark's old school Allan Glen's by guest of honour, the Rt.Hon. Edward Heath, Conservative Prime Minister 1970-1974.

Mark then read Law at the University of Glasgow graduating LL.B. (Hons.) in 1982 and Postgraduate Diploma in Legal Practice (Dip.L.P.) in 1983.

Coat of Arms of John M Sutherland-Fisher

In 1988 Mark was admitted a Serving Brother in the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem by order of HM the Queen. In 1992 he was promoted to the rank of Officer.

Scottish by birth, Mark's paternal family has lived in the Furness peninsula on the north-western tip of Lancashire in England (now forming part of Cumbria) since the Middle Ages. The Fisher family in addition to being major farmers in the area were involved in the extraction of iron ore and shipping. Mark's 3x great granduncle James Fisher founded the family shipping company now known as James Fisher & Sons plc in 1847. The last family member to run the company was Mark's 2nd cousin Sir John Fisher. Mark's 4x great granduncle James Fisher and his wife Jane Slater were leading lights in the foundation of the Mormon Church. Jane's sister Elizabeth Gaitskel is the 3x great grandmother of former Republican Presidential Candidate and current Senator for Utah Senator Mitt Romney.

Mark bears the Coat of Arms traditionally borne by his Fisher ancestors, reaffirmed in his Grant of Arms and Letters Patent.

Mark's maternal family is overwhelmingly Highland Scottish, his maternal grandfather being a direct male descendant of John Beg Sutherland 1st of Langwell and family through his father and Sutherland of Duffus family through his mother.

Mark is the current President of the Clan Sutherland Society in Scotland and previously served as President 1993-1996.

Mark Sutherland-Fisher with his copy of The Earldom of Sutherland (1650)

Mark has served as Genealogist of Clan Sutherland since 1993. Since 2012 he has also been editor of the e-newsletter of C.S.S.S. known as Sans Peur Times.

Mark has been co-administrator of the Sutherland DNA project at FTDNA since 2015.

Mark has written articles which have been published in the magazines and newsletters of a number of clans and history societies around the world.

Mark was elected to Membership of the Royal Stuart Society in January 2019.

In his former professional legal career Mark carried out the administrative requirements of the House of Lords to recognise John Mackenzie as Earl of Cromartie in succession to his late father.

Through his business Highland Family Heritage, Mark has accepted professional commissions to research genealogies on behalf of clients. Mark has also conducted background research on family genealogies and pedigrees to support authors and collaborated on their books. One example is "Edmonstone Chronicles" by Joan Wheeler La Grone, published in 2004 by WIN Publishers of Colorado, USA.

Family Tree of the Dukes, Earls, Lairds and Chiefs of Clan Sutherland

Mark has created the most comprehensive family tree of the Dukes, Earls, Lairds and Chiefs of Clan Sutherland 1100-2020 extending to some 31 generations and listing the various cadet lines of the family.

Sutherland and Sinclair Family Letters from the mid-18th century (many to and from the West Indies)

In June 2016 Mark was a guest speaker and contributor at the International Academic Conference at St Andrews University on the Role of the Flemish in 12th Century Scotland.

During his legal career Mark represented many well known figures who had homes in the Scottish Highlands. One such was Marion C Gibbons who along with her retired journalist husband Harry Scott Gibbons owned a small cottage in the Lairg area of Central Sutherland. It was there that Marion wrote the now famous "Hamish Macbeth" series of books. Originally set around East Sutherland, when turned into a successful television series starring Robert Carlisle in the main role, they were transported to the Applecross area of Wester Ross. Marion is better known under her pen names of M.C. Beaton and Marion Chesney. Marion dedicated the 2nd book in the Hamish Macbeth series "Death of a Cad" to Mark. He has often wondered if he was that cad!


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Hello Mark! I hope this message finds you well and warm!

It's time for our annual Scotland Project check-in!

This year we are hoping to learn what our membership would like to accomplish over the next 12 months. In case you aren't aware, this year is WikiTree's ""Year of Connections"" and the Project's leadership would like to contribute to this in as many ways as possible.

We would appreciate it if you would share your thoughts and ideas with us on how we can accomplish this goal. We would also appreciate it if you would provide some feedback on our existing goals, including:

  • If you have not yet signed up to help on one of the project's teams, which team(s) would you be interested in joining?
  • How often should we provide a Project Newsletter?
  • Have you participated in the Tartan Trail? If not, is this something you'd be interested in doing?
  • Do you have a question(s) that we could add to a Frequently Asked Questions page?
  • Any suggestions or ideas you have on ways to improve the Scotland Project in general

We continue to communicate with our Project members via Google Group (official) and Discord (unofficial), as well as G2G. You may also reach out to any of the Project leaders via WikiTree's internal messaging system at any time.

Thank you for all you do to help the Scotland Project become a knowledge hub for Scottish genealogical research! We wish you all the best in 2022!

Sincerely, Amy Gilpin on behalf of the Scotland Project Leaders

posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Hi Mark. Regarding Andrew Sutherland, I have no personal connection at all. He was created since I can never let a good source go to waste, and he was connected with little effort. If you can connect him to his parents that would be great. Cheers.
posted by C. Mackinnon
Hi Mark,

Thank you for contacting me about Florence Henry Sutherland. Your help in alerting me to an error I had made is appreciated. She is in fact a child of Robert Sutherland and Grace Amelia Sutherland (born Purnell). I have corrected the error. Regards Margaret Cranley [Cranley-15]

posted by M. Cranley
Hi, I am dna matching to a John Sutherland-Fisher on a Scotland DNA GEDMatch group, Chromosome 21, cm's 234, MRCA 6.29. I've not figured out my Sutherland and Fisher lines yet. My GEDMatch QG9415421. Amy:)
posted by Amy Hamilton
edited by Amy Hamilton
Hi Mark,

Do you have any knowledge on aliases used by McKenzies/MacKenzies during the late Jacobite period? An ancestor of mine, Christian (McKenzie-6695) was born in Tain to Donald McKenzie and "Christian Ross alias Mc Finlay-mor(e)" (transcribed as "or", but appearing as "alias" in the original image) and I'm curious as to whether Jacobite involvement could be the reason why. I haven't gotten any further on her family line (or that of her husband, William Ross) - I think it might be due to a deficiency in records available for the time period, but again I'm not sure. I'd really appreciate any help you can offer!

Regards, Amy Utting

posted by Amelia Utting
I haven't begun my Wikitree yet, it's all on

I am 100% British Isles; 45% Scotland 35% England, Cornwall & Devon, 15% Ireland & 5% Wales

posted by [Living Kernick]
Thanks for getting my William Davidson's in order..It would help if they weren't all named William Davidson..thing is the wives are named Mary.
posted by Lola (Hopkins) Kelley
Thank you for your response, Mark.

I have yet to fill in my profile, but will send you a brief outline of my Scottish Bells in a few days because we are just moving house and this has seriously interrupted my Family Research. Best wishes, Brenda

posted by Brenda Bell
Hi Mark,

I am attempting to complete the profile for Robert Rankine. In the process, I discovered his daughter Margaret is under your managership and there is a comment that wills and papers related to the family are held by John Sutherland-Fisher. The reason I am contacting you is that I cannot prove that Robert's parents were Robert Rankine and Janet Boyd. The parents were not mentioned in the marriage register. Did you have any proof in these papers?

Also, my ancestor is James Fisher born about 1800 in Ireland but there seems to be a connection to England. Do you have any strays that went to Ireland?

Many thanks, Elizabeth Russon

Mark, I am creating activity on the Scotland I need to coordinate with anybody? Jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi Jack,

Mark is tied up with another project right now and asked me to respond so you'd have a speedy answer. I note your 'activity' in the Scottish profiles is on some very early Scots, pre-1500. Since you haven't yet earned your pre-1500 badge, I would suggest that instead of putting merges through, that you instead just leave comments on the affected profiles. By doing that the profile managers can take a look and determine if a merge is appropriate as these will require some extensive research in some cases. If you have a lot of Scottish ancestry and are planning to build your tree out on WikiTree, it may be a good idea to join the Scotland Project. There is information on the G2G joining thread linked here and more information on the Scotland Project main page. You can also reach me directly by posting a comment on my profile, which is linked to my name, below.

Bobbie Hall
Scotland Project co-Leader
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Mark, could you please remove Elizabeth Bruce as the mother of Sir Walter Oliphant [Oliphant-77] as it is his wife, not his mother. Thanks,
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
Nice to meet you, 2nd great-nephew of wife of 2nd great-nephew of husband of wife of 1st cousin 2x removed of wife of 8th great-uncle.

It's funny, your picture made me think of Sylvester Stallone--not exactly a Scotsman himself.

I just did some updates from sources on ancestry about Hugh Mann Annat. With the right accent, that could sound like "Human or Not?" ;)

posted by Scott Hutchins
Salutations, Mark! I despair at the number of folk calling themselves members of a "Clan". Take the Preston of Craigmillar family, to whom I am very distantly (1500s) related. This is a 100% Lowland family. They were never a Highland Clan (and clans are from the Highlands!). Truly all this is depressing.I hope no-one starts calling the Lauder family a "clan" as I will instantly jump on that. Normans are not clanners!
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
edited by Gregory Lauder-Frost
Hello, Mark,

I have a connection to the Sutherland family, but it is very far back. Alexander Sutherland, born about 1395 at Dunbeath Castle, Inverness, Scotland, and died 21 Jun 1458 in Scotland is my 16th great grandfather through his daughter Marjory Sutherland who married William Sinclair.

Gail Andrews Hardy Smyrna, TN

posted by Gail (Andrews) Hardy
edited by Gail (Andrews) Hardy
Thank you Mark, for your email and hint regarding locating parents of [Sutherland-6396]. I will be sure to investigate the marriage of Isaac Sutherland and Janet Christie.

Thank you for adding this Sutherland line into the Clan Sutherland category, appreciated..

posted by Lesley Robertson
Thank you, Mark, for your more than one thousand contributions to our Shared Tree during the month of September. The Appreciation Team honors you for all of your efforts.

Pippin Sheppard

WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Mark, the Appreciation Team thanks for you for efforts toward making our Shared Tree the best it can be with your 1000+ contributions during August 2019. You are an important part of what we are all about!

Pippin Sheppard

WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard

Thanks for your info on the Wilton/Sutherland marraige which I have added to the profiles. I am very interested in the clan link you added to Maggie's profile, as I could also add such links to my Logan ancestors, when I find out how to do this. Regretably I have hit a brick wall with my Scottish Burgess ancestry.

Gary Burgess

posted by Gary Burgess
Hi Mark!

The Appreciation Team thanks you for all for your hard work for reaching 1000+ contributions for the month July 2019. Onward and upward!

Pip Sheppard

WikiTree Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Impressive credentials !
posted by MaryAnn (Ford) Thomas
Hello, Mark!

Very well done on your making 1,000 or more contributions to WikiTree in June 2019! We commend and appreciate all of your time and effort in helping to grow and perfect our Shared Tree. Keep up the great work!

Pip Sheppard ~ WikiTree Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Hi Mark!

Congratulations on making more than 1,000 contributions to WikiTree for the Month of May. We all appreciate your efforts to make our Shared Tree the best it can be. Keep up the great work and THANK YOU!

Pip Sheppard

WikiTree Appreciation Team

PS: I always learn something from you G2G posts.

posted by Pip Sheppard
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hello, Mark, I've followed the discussion of a Scotland "Ranger" program you initiated and see it has transformed into the Scottish Clans Protocol Team. I would like to join the team, if you will have me. I am the US Genealogist for Clan Murray and manage several clans for Wikitree. I have worked hard to clean up the appearance of clan profiles, and look forward to learning from the team's activities.
posted by Michael Thomas