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Robert Sutton (abt. 1580 - bef. 1626)

Robert Sutton aka Baldock [uncertain]
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 13 Oct 1606 in Biddenden, Kent, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died before in Biddenden, Kent, Englandmap [uncertain]
Profile last modified | Created 20 Dec 2010 | Last significant change: 16 Nov 2021
20:30: Mary (Spradley) Morken edited the Biography for Robert Sutton (abt.1580-bef.1626). (Minor corrections. ) [Thank Mary for this]
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The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.

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Biography

Father of Plymouth Colony Immigrants George & Simon Sutton?

Nov 2021 update: review of Biddenden parish records on findmypast.co.uk which include original images uncovered these records related to Robert Sutton proving, among other things, that he did indeed have sons George and Simon among others. Whether any of this family emigrated to New England has apparently not been proven and no son John was found (relevant to discussion on whether the John Sutton family of Scituate, Plymouth Colony was related to Simon and George Sutton).

The origins of Robert are not known with certainty, the Robert Sutton supposedly of Lincolnshire and Elizabeth Trythe who married in 1587 in Edlesborough, Bucks. linked as his parents have no sources except their own marriage. Lincolnshire is 100 miles from Edlesborough and another 100 miles from Biddendent, Kent so it seems extremely unlikely that there is any actual direct connection between these people.

A birthdate of about 1580 is reasonable given his first known marriage in 1606 (he could obviously be older and have had a prior marriage).

Marriage & Children

  1. Marriage to Mary Austen 13 Oct 1606 (given the later burial record this is very likely the correct marriage)[1]
  2. George christened 27 Dec 1607 The alias "Baldock" originally seen on father Robert's profile comes from this christening showing Robert as "alias Baldock" or something similar. The original register image on findmypast.co.uk is clearly readable showing this alias. Interestingly, the christening is written twice, once with the alias and once without, 2 lines apart.
  3. Twins "Gylbert" and Bernard 13 Sep 1612 (indexed searches of this register at various sites show only Bernard/Barnard but the register is in good shape and clearly legible showing clearly the twin brother Gylbert.
  4. Robert Jr. 26 Feb 1614
  5. Simon 19 Dec 1619[2]
  6. On 8 Mar 1620/21 Mary, wife of Robert Sutton was buried at Biddenden.

A possible entry for Robert Sutton, broadweaver of Biddenden appears at the UK National Archives under this text:

William Austen of Biddenden, tailor, to appear and to keep the peace; surety, Robert Sutton of the same, broadweaver[3]

Possible Death

  1. On 23 Jul 1626 Robert Sutton was buried at Biddenden, the original image at findmypast.co.uk included no additional text such as "son of" or "widower of".
  2. Another Robert Sutton was buried at Biddenden on 21 Aug 1643 again without supplemental information on the original record.

The simplest explanation is that the 1626 death was Robert the father and the 1643 death was Robert the son as Robert "jr" would have been over 18 in 1643 thus explaining the lack of "Robert son of Robert" entry in his burial record.

Obviously a 1626 death would have left these 5 children, the oldest 18 years old without a guardian.

Research Notes

This profile originally contained a contradictory mess of conflated and imaginary "data". Anything relevant is retained here although none of it was sourced. Unsourced information about their possible descendants is shown on those profiles, not here per WikiTree policy:

  • Died 8 Jul 1687 in Hempstead, Nassau County, New York, USA
  • They have three children:
  • George Sutton Died April 12, 1669, Albermarle County, Perquimans District, North Carolina. (NB: this may be true IF the known early immigrant to Scituate, Plymouth Colony who later moved to North Carolina (and one son to Virginia) is the same man)
  • Samuel Sutton. (NB: no evidence of this)
  • Simon Sutton (NB: may be true as with George above), see more on his profile and in Anderson's "Great Migration" entry
  • He was not related to Ambrose Sutton of Burton, Linc. whose son Robert had d. in 1592. (NB: seems to apply to an Ambrose Sutton of Kelvedon, Essex who married a Sarah Warner
  • There was no Long Island City in 1613. He did not die there, nor Hempstead, Long Island, New York in 1630; the town was settled in 1644. (NB: relevant to older text claiming that he died in Long Island, Queens, NY at either the age of 25 or the age of 100)

Sources

  1. Biddenden, Kent, England parish register on findmypast.co.uk for 1606 marriage of Robert Sutton and Mary Austen archive reference P26/1/A/2 original image $subscription
  2. Biddenden, Kent, England parish register on findmypast.co.uk for 1619 christening of Simon Sutton archive reference P26/1/A/2 original image $subscription
  3. UK National Archives QM - West Kent Quarter Sessions Records QM/SRc - RECOGNIZANCES 11 Apr 1615 Robert Sutton Reference: QM/SRc/1615/24

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Profile Managers: Please note that a son, William Sutton was removed today without explanation, and without any sources
posted by S (Hill) Willson
These dates would make Robert Ambrose Sutton 100 years old! Perhaps a different estimated birth date?
Sutton-5009 and Sutton-310 appear to represent the same person because: similar dates, same spouse and son, Simon
posted by Robin Lee
Carlene, I know several months have passed since you posted your question, but if you're reading this, please, what are the sources for your information about Robert Ambrose Sutton?
I found the following reference for Robert Ambrose Sutton on at least 2 different sites. Could we please consider correcting his information?

Robert Ambrose Sutton was born in England, and before immigrating to America, he married Sarah Warner on August 25, 1613, who was born in Essex, Kelvedon, England. He migrated over probably within a few years of his son George Ambrose Sutton who came over in 1634. Robert Ambrose Sutton eventually settled and died in Hempstead, Long Island, New York.

The son of Ambrose Sutton of Burton, co. Lincoln named Robert had died before 1592.

There's a lot more fictional details in the bio.

posted by Kirk Hess
Sutton-5009 and Sutton-5292 appear to represent the same person because: These two men with the same name married the same woman. Prove the correct birth and death dates.
posted by C Harrison
Sutton-3999 and Sutton-310 appear to represent the same person because: Same birthplace and year, same death place, same spouse. Please merge
posted by S (Hill) Willson

Rejected matches › robert P. sutton

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