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John Taylor (1550 - 1624)

John Taylor
Born in Haverhill, Suffolk, Englandmap
Son of and
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 10 Dec 1590 in Abbey, St Albans, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , , and
Died at age 73 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
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Biography

NOTE: This profile (the product of many merges) is in great need of research. The birth field above, claims he was born 6 Aug 1550 in Haverhill, Suffolk, England.

Text from an earlier draft narrative claims he was christened 3 Oct 1567 in Cartmel, Lancastershire, England, citing Ancestral File Number: 9CLP-CP. This same source claims he was buried 21 MAR 1624 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England.

That's three different locations for the same man, and a 17-year difference in birth years.

Can you help improve this profile? Thanks.

Note: I added fag, but there is no tombstone. A request for a photo has been made. McClintock-715 23:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

NEEDS FURTHER RESEARCH

Born 06 AUG 1545. Haverhill, Suffolk, England. [1][2][3] 1545 St.albans, hertford. [4] Found multiple copies of birth date. Using 06 AUG 1545

Marriage Husband John Taylor. Wife Margaret Willmote. Child: Sarah Elizabeth Taylor. Marriage 1590 England[5]

Died 21 MAR 1623. John died on 21 March 1623 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England, and is buried in the St Alban's Cathedral in St Albans, St Albans District, Hertfordshire, England. [6][7][8][9]

Sources

  1. ↑ Source: #S83 Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees
  2. ↑ Source: #S109 UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index
  3. ↑ Source: #S84 Millennium File
  4. ↑ Source: #S196 Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees
  5. ↑ Source: #S42 Source number: 6793.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: HDG
  6. ↑ #S109 Find A Grave: Memorial #143001390 John Taylor
  7. ↑ Source: #S84 Millennium File
  8. ↑ Source: #S83 Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees
  9. ↑ Source: #S196 Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees
  • "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2R2-TZT : 10 December 2014), John Tayler and Margaret Willmote, 10 Dec 1590; citing Abbey,Saint Albans,Hertford,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 0973125 IT 3.
  • Source: S109 Ancestry.com, UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;) Repository: #R3
  • Repository: R3 Ancestry.Com
  • Source: S196 Ancestry.com, Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014;) NOTEGenealogieOnline
  • Source: S83 Ancestry.com, Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014;) Repository: #R3
  • Source: S84 Heritage Consulting, Millennium File (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2003;) Repository: #R3

See also:

  • Therese Schmidt, Ancestry of Plly Chamberlain, database, www.our-genealogy.com/chamberlain/ancestry-taylor/john-taylor-1.htm, Updated 22 March 2007, accessed 28 July 2010, by LuAnn Rittenhouse.




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DaVar-1 Terri Rene DaVar
The sources mentioned are anecdotal, secondary. I’d personally prefer to keep them. They may be, as Isaac states, guck. But that guck is the result of someone searching years ago. Some are sources I have cited, based on 2001 letters from other descendants. If the majority of us prefer to remove the citations, I’ll accept this. Jus5 stating my preference.
posted by Terri Rene DaVar
Isaac Taylor
Here's an example:

The first link has a bunch of info on but zero sourced, cited claims. We have no ability to tell if anything on that page is correct. Therefore it's not a source, by WikiTree standards... at best, hints. But it's neither authoritative nor even verifiable, because it's un-sourced. This is what I mean by "internet gunk." Could be a gold mine. Could be a minefield. Caveat emptor, etc.

The second link is authoritative professional secondary source. It points to primary sources. It synthesizes other secondary sources. It's research, with citations (many) and page numbers. Anybody alive can go back and recreate that work, to verify it.

The last link is easy to read and entertaining etc. But it's a tertiary source, because while there is a ton of info (claims of fact and opinion), and some may be true... some may also be false, and there is no way to tell which is which, on that page. It's not either a primary or secondary source. It's "third rate" hence, to my mind, tertiary.

Anyway, No offense intended. We're all on the same team. I don't mean to mansplain... I'm just disagreeing with your characterization of any of the sources above as either anecdotal or secondary.

I appreciate you replied on Halloween 2019. Amazing to think, Terri, how much the world has changed since then. My gosh. I hope you and your people are well.

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
Isaac Taylor
Can we just delete ALL of the notional sources currently provided for this profile? None of them is an acceptable contemporary primary source; or even a reputable, professional secondary source. Approximately 14 out of 15 of the current sources are what might be termed "internet guck" and from the type of sites that go around in circles citing each other.
posted by Isaac Taylor
Isaac Taylor
Are there any proven direct male descendants here?

The notional son who has been disconnected (John Taylor-642, 1605-1645-ish, the Puritan emigrant) is known to be paternal haplogroup R-BY40273/R-L45 with many living descendants including for example Taylors active on myFTDNA today.

posted by Isaac Taylor
Isaac Taylor
What is the source of the Haverhill birthplace? Now that we have detached this man from his son of the same name (who IS known to have been born in Haverhill) we need a contemporary primary source or reputable secondary source for this notional birth place; or we ought to remove it and leave as only England and Uncertain. We ought not to have a specific place and date, and mark that as Certain, when the bio itself says we aren't sure. Right?
posted by Isaac Taylor
Roche-395 Patricia Roche
Taylor-2495 and Taylor-33297 appear to represent the same person because: same data and family
posted by Patricia Roche

Rejected matches › John Taylor (abt.1825-bef.1871) › John Taylor Jr. (abt.1848-) › John Taylor (abt.1860-) › John Edward Taylor Sr. (1913-1976) › John Mathew Taylor (1887-1959) › John R. Taylor › John Taylor (abt.1651-bef.1722) › John Henry Taylor (1894-1974) › Jack C. Taylor › John Taylor (1808-1887) › John Taylor (1641-1704) › John Taylor (abt.1856-)

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