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Isaac Taylor

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Isaac R. Taylor
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Hello everyone,

My wife and I have a GED on Ancestry.com, which I tried to upload here but I guess it’s too big now. So, I manually created the first 5-10 generations here, and am enjoying carefully tying into the universal family tree. :-)

At this point our GED is >30k individuals, about ~25% lineal, going back 30+ generations on the Anglo-Norman/Franco-German lines. While I'm not satisfied with all of the data quality, it has value, even if contains errors. That tree branched out enough, I’ve had The Epiphany that: we’re all cousins, to some degree. Too bad we don’t have better records from antiquity. And some more-modern nations.

Here is some Cousin Bait, i.e. family names from my All-American Mutt pedigree, going back four generations, covering the “classic” period of immigration to North America:

  1. TAYLOR (England)
  2. WEBSTER (England)
  3. SACK (Germany)
  4. BRITTON (England)
  5. SIMSON (Simle, Simleness) (Norway)
  6. ANDERSON (Andersson) (Norway)
  7. PAVLISH (Pavlish, Pavlic) (Bohemia)
  8. TROYAK (Trovak) (Bohemia)
  9. KONOPKA (Galician via Canada)
  10. SPIEWAK (Spievak) (Galicia)
  11. SIENKIEWICZ (Polish via Canada)
  12. GORCZYCA (Gorczycow) (Poland)
  13. KAPPLER (Kapler, Kepler) (Germany)
  14. MURRAY (Irish via Canada)
  15. JEPSEN (Denmark)
  16. MOGENSEN (Denmark)

I’m a descendant of John WEBSTER, first governor of colonial Connecticut. That was a lucky break from a genealogy perspective, as his line was both fertile and well documented. We weren’t so lucky with the first TAYLOR whose family origins in England before the revolutionary war remain unclear, aside from baptism and marriage records in Felsham, Suffolk.

He and his descendants are buried in the old Taylor family cemetery near Hero, PA (named for his grandson Jesse who was first the local boy killed in the US civil war). If your ancestors are buried there too, we’re probably related:

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/46453/memorial-search?page=1#sr-141862087

NOTE: If you’re a TAYLOR in the USA, with ancestry mysteries from ~1580 - ~1780, then feel free to contact me. I’ve helped a few Taylor folks figure out which branch they’re actually from, from Boston (1600s) to Virginia (1700s), and Chicago (1800s) to California (1900s).

Here are some major family names from prior generations, flowing back from colonial New England to Anglo-Norman era:

  1. COFFIN (English via New England)
  2. VALLEAU (French via New Jersey)
  3. LATSON / LANSING (Lansinghe) (Dutch via New York)
  4. MALLORY (de Mallory) (English via Virginia)
  5. de BRADBORNE (Bradbourne) Anglo-Norman
  6. de LUDLOW (Ludlowe) Anglo-Norman
  7. de PEMBRIDGE (Pembrugge) Anglo-Norman
  8. de VERNON Anglo-Norman
  9. de GREY Anglo-Norman
  10. de RIVIERS (Redvers) Anglo-Norman
  11. de ROUEN Franco-Norman
  12. de CREPON Franco-Norman

And for my wife Jennifer, first the “recent” grand-parent arrivals to the United States:

  1. COOGAN (Ireland)
  2. DOHERTY (Ireland)
  3. LYNCH (Ireland)
  4. BURKE (Ireland)
  5. BOURQUE (Burke) (French via Acadia)
  6. BABIN (French via Acadia)
  7. BOUDREAU (French via Acadia)
  8. POTHIER (French via Acadia)
  9. FLYNN (Ireland)
  10. DELANEY (Ireland)
  11. McCAULEY (Irish via England)
  12. LEONARD (Irish via England)
  13. JENNINGS (Ireland)
  14. MONAHAN (Moynahan, Monyhan) (Irish via Northern Ireland)
  15. FLANAGAN (Ireland)
  16. MAHONEY (Ireland)

She is a direct descendant of Charles St-Etienne de La TOUR, governor of the French Acadian colony in the 1600s. I look forward to learning much more about her Irish ancestry from here on Wiki Tree. Some of our living relatives are already here. :-)

Within the French quadrant of my wife’s family, there are more ancient families… you know how it goes, when you find a particular line that goes way back, it just goes and goes right back through the Crusades etc. into, in some cases, descent from antiquity:

  1. CHARTRES (700s)
  2. de BLOIS (900s)
  3. de CHAMPAGNE
  4. de SULLY
  5. SALAZAR (Spanish, Basque, Andalusian etc.)
  6. de BOURBON
  7. de La TREMOILLE
  8. de CRAON
  9. de BERGERAC
  10. d’ AQUITAINE (Occitanie, Occitan)
  11. de FRANCE / ROBERTIAN Kings of France etc.

I mention these medieval names because I am VERY disinterested in trying to DIY research foggy medieval bloodlines. Which stump and divide even the pro-est pros. For this reason, I would like to bolt our family tree onto well-researched work done here collaboratively, so I can focus on work nobody else is doing.

If somebody wants to sponsor me while I carefully stitch in our family tree (Ancestry.com GED) to your wiki, I’m happy to have a mentor. I could especially use advice about which GEDCOM editor(s) makes it easier to shatter a huge file into individual family groups, or centuries etc– for easier uploading and proofreading during the joins.

Respectfully,

Isaac in California


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Hi Isaac,

Regarding Maria Hoyring vs. Maria Hogen. I would NOT merge them. They are different persons found on a website for baptisms who were born in different years, and had different parents. I go with the baptism info, since there is nothing else yet. I never merge anything that looks this different. The parents of one were the witnesses to the other’s baptism. Interesting.

I will look at it more tomorrow. It’s late here.

posted by X Fetterly
Isaac, have put a comment on William Pole (Pole - 45), l have put sources to disprove the parentage listed in the profile.
posted by Malcolm Rowlands
Hello Malcolm, please do share, more!
posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Hello again Isaac, I have posted a comment on Maud wife of William Bermingham (bermingham - 173), I doubt it helps but see what you think.
posted by Malcolm Rowlands
Hello Malcolm, thanks for your comment here. I will check it out.

It would be more helpful if you could actually link the WikiTree profiles you're alluding to, so we can just click. Thanks.

posted by Isaac Taylor
Are you referring to this man:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Birmingham-173

and his wife, this woman:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-137685 ?

posted by Isaac Taylor
Hello Isaac, I posted a comment today on Renfrey Arundel b.1426 or perhaps c1400 d. 1500 or perhaps c. 1469 (the later dates are correct if my research is correct) and I would be grateful if you would cast your eye on the comment and let me know. I have asked you as both of us seem to be on the same wavelength when questioning profiles I hope you don’t mind.
posted by Malcolm Rowlands
edited by Malcolm Rowlands
Hello Malcolm,

What is the profile ID / URL?

Merry Christmas

posted by Isaac Taylor
Hello Isaac,

I have two sources that have verified connections,

https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2015/11/195-arundell-of-wardour-castle-and_18.html

Plus this an ebook free on Google which clearly shows Sir John Arundel as his father (pedigree of the Arundel family).

transactions - Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society, Volume 17

I have also found from various sources to which I have no access (taken from other genealogy sites who do have access which I have listed on his profile) that his birth was 1396 in Lanherne, Cornwall and his death was on 24.6.1443 in Cornwall.

Happy and safe New Year.

posted by Malcolm Rowlands
edited by Malcolm Rowlands
I really appreciate your comments here on my profile. Unfortunately, WikiTree doesn't email me when you post here, so I didn't see this until today. I will eventually review your comments and begin to understand them.

As I mentioned above in reply to some of your other comments here on my profile page, it would be (more) helpful -- at least to me -- if you could provide a clickable link to the WikiTree profile(s) you are alluding to. Otherwise it takes time just to register, rather than click and go think.

Regardless, I applaud your fraternity and critical thinking, and I am grateful for your provided sources. Thanks, ur-cousin!

posted by Isaac Taylor
Based on your comment about the profile of US President Donald Trump, it is clear that you are not familiar with the WikiTree policy on privacy that was established over 2 years ago. Please make sure to read through https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/601685/significant-privacy-related-changes-to-wikitree-for-gdpr?show=601685#q601685 and the associated help page https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GDPR_FAQ

You concern was also well covered https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/625560/gdpr-and-famous-people?show=625560#q625560

posted by Robin Lee
Robin, in what way does our notional privacy policy protect the privacy of a public figure, whose pedigree is already online? Here? I'm not asking you to apply or provide the policy. I'm asking the community, what we think we're accomplishing exactly.
posted by Isaac Taylor
I am disheartened that you did not find your question sufficiently discussed in the G2G links provided. Perhaps you would like to rephrase your request for input again on G2G.
posted by Robin Lee
Thank you for your prompt and helpful replies.

I will read more, and have a think.

posted by Isaac Taylor
Re: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Von_Bayern-7

Not sure. It was orphaned and I adopted it. I’ll release it so you can place it correctly.

corrected location information per your request. "Can somebody with the Pre-1500 certification remove the spurious , ,(s) in our b/d places?" on Hawise de bekeon
posted by Marty (Lenover) Acks
Hi Isaac,

The Tankersley post you have noted for Dolphyn Tankersley is from Harriet Frye. She is working on a book about the family history and has done extensive research on the subject. I trust her as a good source for issues regarding the family tree.

Brgds,

Bill Tanksley

posted by Bill Tanksley Jr.
Thanks for the heads up, Bill.
posted by Isaac Taylor
I have no idea where the original upload got their info. I just took over a profile manager because it had no manager and is in my line but I have not been able to do any work of Richard Peck. I am taking care of my elderly parents and that leaves me with little time to work on genealogy.
posted by Sonja Ratliff
Re your note on Francis Cooke, boy, are you right. I'd tackle the cleanup if I had the time, or any connection to the subject. Perfect example of a profile that needs some work.
posted by Nick Dann
HI Isaac,

As a community, WikiTree has a lot of Standards to assure that we all use WikiTree in the same manner. While we all appreciate you opinion on Style and Standards, please make sure that your suggestions left on profiles match those standards. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Styles_and_Standards

posted by Robin Lee
Robin, can you give me an example of a specific question to which policy URLs are the answer? As an employee of the US federal government, I get it. (Bureaucracy, broadly speaking.) And yet, I have no idea what you're talking about; because, I don't know what you're talking about.

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
Hi Isaac. If you want anything at all done to correct Beatirce'd Eu's (Falaise, etc.) profile, you'll have to make a request in the G2G forum. I am not certified to do anything to pre-1500 profiles. Nothing. So ask there if you're not certified yourself.

Cheers!

posted by PE Rosner
Thank you, PE.

I'm not certified for Pre-1500 profiles, so in G2G we trust. Sigh.

posted by Isaac Taylor
Thank you, PE. I leave comments on the profile(s) so that other researchers visiting them, will see them. Sifting through the G2G archives is an ineffective way to gather or discover research (or researchers!), compared to "pinning" questions and answers to the profiles themselves. So, that's what I do.

Please don't interpret that as a recurring criticism of you. I'm in the same boat with regards Pre-1500 certification.

But still, I do often ask on the profiles for the current profile manager to give feedback or make edits. Even if the current profile manager(s) are unable to do so. That is for two reasons. First, because new profile manager(s) will come and go over time. Second, because it may be appropriate in some cases for the inactive profile managers to remove themselves, if they can't / don't / won't either edit (ie manage) the profiles; or go through the process to become Pre-1500 certified.

Again, nothing personal.

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
Hello Isaac, thank you for the message regarding Archaic-1. Not being Pre-1500 certified I’m not able to edit this profile.

Bob

posted by Robert Wood
Hello again, I am not pre-1500 certified so if you are, feel free to make sourced changes to any profile that I manage that is pre-1500. If you aren't certified, you can make your suggestions in the G2G forums, or make a comment on the relevant profiles. I can't change a thing on them. Period.
posted by PE Rosner
Hi! Thanks for letting me know about Senlis-83, but I pretty much stick to Magna Carta Project profiles these days.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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