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Richard Thayer Jr. (1601 - bef. 1664)

Richard Thayer Jr. aka Tayer
Born in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 5 Apr 1624 in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, Englandmap
Husband of — married about 1656 in Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died before in St. Michael's, Barbados Islands, West Indiesmap
Profile last modified | Created 5 Jan 2011
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Richard Thayer Jr. migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640).
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Biography

He settled in Braintree, Massachusetts, by 1641.

He was probably the "Taiere" who, about September 1645, sold an acre of land in Braintree to the merchant adventurers who were setting up the iron works in that town.[1]

He married soon after 15 Jul 1646 Jane Kember, widow of John Parker.[2]

"On 5 September 1648, 'Rich[ard] Thaire of Boston' deeded to 'Rich[ard] Thaire of Braintry son of the said Richard of Boston' several parcels of land, including two acres & a half of land lying between the land of Daniell Lovet & James Farce [Farr?], in the field at Monoticott, bought of the said Richard Thaire the elder of John Niles together with the lot upon which he built his house' [SLR 5:455-56]."[3]

On May 26, 1658 a General Court of Election, held at Boston, confirmed the reduction in the fine imposed on Richard Thayer for "selling strong licquors contrary to lawe" from 19 pounds to 5 pounds. [Note: This record probably relates to Richard's son.][4]

Richard died before 10 Apr 1668, probably in the Island of Barbados, West Indies, where he resided in 1660 (Early Ct. Files Suff[olk]. No. 455)... "he and his second wife and her children proposed to return to England after 1658, but from letters written by him to his sons Zachariah and Richard from Barbados in 1660 (see page 531 of cited source below), there is reason to believe that his death occurred on that island in the West Indies. His son Nathaniel, and Katherine Thayer, a daughter by his second wife, were with him and his wife on the island."[5] (The cited source had not found the will that was found later. See below.)

Also: Suffolk Court records (#424,455,828, paper 29) show that Richard Thayer was in Barbados as early as Mar. 12, 1660 as were his sons Richard and Nathaniel, and he also mentions his daughter Dorothy and his wife Katherine and Samuel (Samuel Davis, his son in law).

NOTE: "There has been much confusion as to the dates of death of the various Richard Thayers. Richard1 the emigrant was dead before 20th 2d month 1668, as sown in a deed (Suffolk Co. Deeds, V, 446) of his son Richard 2, who died 27 August 1695."[6]
NOTE: The Richard Thayer who died in 1695, was age 71 per his gravestone. That means he was born in 1624 and therefore was NOT the immigrant who was born in 1600.

Last Will & Testament

The will of Richard Thawyer [this one?] of Barbados, dated 6 Oct 1664, proved 12 Oct 1664 mentions his [third] wife Catherine and "children" (Barbados Wills RB6/15 p 35).

Research Notes

Clifford Stott published in 1998 a serious and critical review of past research done on the Thayer family, and pointed out MANY errors of previous transcriptions. He re-analyzed the original parish records of Thornsbury, and published a new, corrected transcription of them. He also transcribes early probate records.[7]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 John Adams Vinton, "The Vinton Memorial Comprising a Genealogy of the Descendants of John Vinton of Lynn, 1648," 1858, p 467
  2. The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume V, M-P, by Robert Charles Anderson. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2007, p 365
  3. The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume V, M-P, by Robert Charles Anderson. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2007, p 260
  4. "Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England," Vol IV - Part I (1650-1660), Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed, p 342
  5. John William Linzee, The History of Peter Parker and Sarah Ruggles of Roxbury, Mass., and their Ancestors and Descendants, Boston (1918), 527-37
  6. "Notes and Queries," in NEHGR, 60(1906):93
  7. Clifford L. Stott, "The Gloucester T(h)ayer Ancestry," in TAG, 73(1998):82-86; 209-219

See also:

  • Richard Thayer, II on Find A Grave: Memorial #7310816 Retrieved 07:10, 20 January 2017 (EST). NOTE: This is a "memorial" site only; there is no gravestone photo.


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There is a daughter Abigail attached here; she has no sources (the source listed on her profile is more about her mother, but not about her). Does anyone know where we can obtain a list of Richard's known children? It's not in the Stott article.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Thanks for looking into it Jillaine, with six consecutive generations of John Parker in that family and the obvious similarity between Joan and Jane, it's not surprising that great care is needed. Neil Thompson does a great job of analyzing the parish records and the New England records in his proof, I've written it up in some detail on Joan Hellyer's profile here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hellyer-251. One of the main proofs is a deed gift that "Jane" Parker, widow of John, made to her children in 1646. The names match up with the baptismal records of children of John Jr. and Joan Hellyer.
posted by Brad Stauf
Brad, thanks for the message; I'm looking into it. In the meantime, Anderson is cited for the Jane Kember claim. He cites SLR 2:303-4 as the case for her: "On 7 October 1656, 'Jane the now wife of Richard Tare late of Boston heretofore the widow of Jno. Parker late of Boston deceased, together with Thomas Parker her son....' "

I'm now going to look at what the 2001 TAG article says...

posted by Jillaine Smith
Thanks for maintaining this profile! I have a suggested correction based on TAG 76 (Jul 2001) article "The English Origin of John Parker" by Neil D. Thompson. This article with sources shows that Richard Thayer did not marry Jane Kember, widow of John Parker "of Marlborough", he married Joan/Jane Hellyer [Hellyer-251], widow of John Parker "the immigrant", son of John of Marlborough & wife Jane Kember. She is already on wikitree as noted above. If you'd like a copy of the article with sourcing I can email it to you but terms of use prevents me posting it on wikitree. It could probably be found on ancestry.com attached to Richard Thayer as well.
posted by Brad Stauf
Thanks, Joe. I guess detaching children does not show up in the change log of the parents. Frustrating. Thanks again
posted by Jillaine Smith
Jillian’s, after checking sources I disconnected the Mary Alice daughter who had a different name and lived in Virginia, and changed the Unknown into the known son Jonathan.
posted by Joe Cochoit
M Cole, I see neither a child Unknown nor a Mary Alice daughter. Please clarify.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I'm looking at the children and comparing to the Thayer Families Assn list. I'm wondering if Unknown Thayer can be merged away and Mary Alice who died in Virginia should be disconnected.

https://thayerfamilies.org/cpage.php?pt=22

posted by M Cole
Richard Thayer Jr. is my 9th Greatgrandfather. How do I get my father's dna and my dna tests added?
posted by Michele (Hart) Stoen
Chase, per the narrative : Barbados Wills RB6/15 p 35. I added additional info including reference to the 1660 correspondence from Richard Thayer from Barbados.
posted by Jillaine Smith