Pierre Thibodeau

Pierre Thibodeau (abt. 1631 - 1704)

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Pierre Thibodeau
Born about in Marans, Francemap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about in Port-Royal, Acadie, Nouvelle-Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died in Prée LaRonde, Port-Royal, Acadie, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Biographie

(English version below)

"L'ancêtre des Thibodeau acadiens fut le meunier Pierre, qui est né en France vers 1631. Nous ne connaissons ni son origine précise, ni la date de son arrivée en Acadie".[1] Vers 1631 (RcPR 1671 40 ans, 1686 55 ans, 1693 59 ans (sic), 1698 65 ans, 1700 80 ans (sic) S. White. Il est meunier en haut de la rivière, appelée prée La Ronde (S. White)

Pierre épousa Jeanne Thériot vers 1660. Les parents de Jeanne étaient Jean Thériot et Perrine Reau.[2]

Entre 1661 et 1689, Jeanne Thériot et Pierre Thibodeau eurent seize enfants:

  1. Marie Thibodeau (1661 - 1711)
  2. Marie Thibodeau (1663 - )
  3. Marie Jeanne Thibodeau (1664 - 1703)
  4. Anne-Marie Thibodeau (1666 - )
  5. Anne Catherine Thibodeau (1667 - )
  6. Pierre Thibodeau (le plus vieux) (1670 - )
  7. Jeanne Thibodeau (1672 - 1741)
  8. Jean Thibodeau (1674 - 1746)
  9. Antoine Thibodeau (1676 - )
  10. Pierre (le jeune) Thibodeau (1678 - )
  11. Michel Thibodeau (1680 - )
  12. Cécile Thibodeau (1680 - )
  13. Marie Anne Thibodeau (1682 - 1720)
  14. Claude Thibodeau 1685 - 1756)
  15. Catherine Josèphe Thibodeau (1686 - )
  16. Charles Thibodeau (1689 - 1756)

"Colonisateur, il fonda Chipoudy."[1]

Avant sa mort, leur ferme était située a l'est du fort au marais Pré Ronde sur la rive sud de la rivière du Dauphin (Annapolis).[3]

Pierre est mort à Port-Royal le 26 décembre 1704.[2] D/S Rg PR 26/27 décembre 1704, 80 ans (sic) S. White

Biography

(version française ci-dessus)

The Acadian Thibodeau family stems from one man, Pierre Thibodeau. He was a miller who was born in France around 1631. His origins and date of arrival in Acadia are unknown.[1]

Around 1660 Pierre married Jeanne Thériot, daughter of Jean Thériot and Perrine Reau,[2] in Port Royal Acadia[4] (Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada).

Between about 1661 and 1689, the couple had 16 children:[2]

Marie b. c1661, m. c1681 Antoine Landry (son of Rene & Marie Bernard), d. St-Charles-des-Mines Acadie bef 16 Feb 1711;
Marie b.c1663, m. Port Royal before 1678 Census, Pierre Lejeune dit Briard (Pierre & Unknown Doucet);
Marie b.c1664, m. after 1686 Census, Charles Robichaud dit Cadet (son of Etienne & Francoise Boudrot), d. before 9 Jun 1703;
Anne-Marie b. c1666, m. c1682 Claude Boudrot (son of Michel & Michelle Aucoin), d. between 1698 & 1700;
(Marie-)Catherine, b. c1667, m. c1684 Claude Landry (son of Rene & Marie Bernard), d. before 11 Nov 1721;
Pierre the elder, b. c1670, m.c1690 Anne-Marie Bourg (daughter of Jean & Marguerite Martin), d. Pisiguit;
Jeanne, b. c1672, m. c1689 Mathieu de Goutin, died/buried Louisbourg 7/8 Apr 1741;
Jean, b. c1674, m. Port Royal 7 Feb 1703 Marguerite Hebert (daughter of Emmanuel & Andree Brun), d. Grand Pre Acadia, 9 Dec 1746
Antoine, b. c1676, m. Port Royal 8 Oct 1703 Marie Prejean (daughter of Jean and Andree Savoie), d. between 19 Nov 1753 and 6 Nov 1758;
Pierre the younger, b. c1678, m. Port Royal 25 Nov 1706 Anne-Marie Aucoin (daughter of Martin and Marie Gaudet), d. before 14 Oct 1734;
Michel, b. c1680, m. Port Royal 13 Nov 1704 Agnes Dugas (daughter of Claude and Francoise Bourgeois), d./buried Port Royal 27/28 Nov 1734;
Cécile, b. c1680, m. c1698 Emmanuel Le Borgne de Belisle (son of Alexandre and Marie de Saint-Etienne de La Tour);
Anne-Marie b. c1682, m. c1697 Charles D’Amours de Louvieres (son of Mathieu and Marie Marsolet), widower of Marie-Anne Genaple, d. Hotel-Dieu de Quebec, 2 Sep 1720;
Claude, b. c1685, m. Port Royal 5 Nov 1709 Elisabeth (Isabelle) Comeau (daughter of Pierre the elder and Jeanne Bourg);
Catherine-Josèphe, b. c1686, m. Port Royal 17 Feb 1705 Guillaume Bourgeois (son of Germain & Madeleine Belliveau) widower of Marguerite Mius de Pleinmarais; and
Charles b. c1689, m. Port Royal, Acadia 19 Dec 1715 Francoise Comeau (daughter of Pierre the elder and Jeanne Bourg), buried Port Lajoie, Ile Royal (Prince Edward Island) 12 Aug 1756.

Pierre was a founder of Chipoudy:

"In 1698 Pierre Thibaudeau, a resident of Port Royal, began his settlement at Shepody... A miller of Pré Ronde... he and his sons explored the Shepody area in the first year... The first wintering by three of the Thibaudeau's sons was in 1699/1700, when they did very well trading furs with the Indians. De Villieu heard of the activity and immediately protested that they were on his father-in-law's seigneurie without permission, although the precise boundaries of La Vallière's grant are almost impossible to determine from the wording of the concession. Thibaudeau had dreamed of a seigneurie of his own, like that of his old friend Mathieu Martin at Cobequid... but showed a willingness to compromise which de Villieu declined. When in 1702 de Villieu himself was willing to compromise, the Thibaudeau group, beleiving that a petition of their own to Paris would succeed, in turn refused. Indeed they were confident enough of success to invest a great deal of effort in dyking, building sluices (aboiteaux), and even erecting a grist-and-saw mill with machinery from New England. In 1703 they had their lands confirmed but "without prejudice" to the rights of La Vallière. The old man died thinking himself a true seigneur but, in an arrêt of June 2, 1705, the Thibaudeau's right to the land was expressly granted as a concession from La Vallière's seigneurie. Officially, the Thibaudeaus could not extend their lands, nor could others settle without assuming the legal position and charges consequent to being censitaires of the seigneur of Beaubassin. In 1702 there appear to have been seven households at Shepody (roughly thirty-three people)."[5]

At the time of his death[2], Pierre was living at Pré Rond Marsh[3] on the south bank of the Annapolis (Dauphin) River east of the fort.

Pierre died at Port-Royal on December 26 1704.[2]

Timeline

c1631 birth, in France
1632 Treaty Saint-Germain-en-Laye cedes Acadia to France; Razilly brings ~300 elite men[6]
1636 Arrival of the first French families to settle permanantly[4]
1654 British capture Port-Royal; French settlement ceases[7]
c1660 marriage to Jeanne Thériot
c1661 birth, daughter Marie
c1663 birth, daughter Marie
c1664 birth, daughter Marie
c1666 birth, daughter Anne-Marie
c1667 birth, daughter Marie-Catherine
1667-70 Treaty of Breda cedes Acadia to the French; settlement resumes[8]
1670’s-1690’s Available farmland decreases; some leave Port-Royal to establish new villages: Beaubassin (1671); Grand-Pré and Pigiguit (1680); Chipoudie (1698), and Cobeguit and Petcoudiac (1699).[9]
c1670 birth, son Pierre the elder
1671 residence, in Port-Royal
c1672 birth, son Jeanne
c1674 birth, son Jean, in Port-Royal
c1676 birth, son Antoine
1678 residence, in Port-Royal
c1678 birth, son Pierre the younger
c1680 birth, son Michel
c1680 birth, daughter Cécile
c1682 birth, daughter Anne-Marie
c1685 birth, son Claude
1686 residence, in Port-Royal
c1686 birth, daughter Catherine-Josèphe
1687 War of the League of Augsburg (King William’s War) starts between England and France[10]
c1689 birth, son Charles
1690 Phipps captures and sacks Port-Royal, coerces inhabitants' oaths of allegiance to English Crown, sets up local Peacekeeping Council and leaves within 12 days.[11][12][13] Seaman from two ships later loot and burn between 28 and 35 homes/habitations including the parish church.[14]
1693 residence, in Port-Royal
1693 Port-Royal raid with looting and burning.[14]
1697 Treaty of Ryswick restores Acadia to France; Port-Royal is its capital[14]
1698 residence, in Port-Royal
1698 founder, Chipoudy
1700-1701 residence, in Port-Royal
1702 War of the Spanish Succession (Queen Anne’s War) starts between England and France[14]
1703 residence, in Port-Royal
1704 Blockade of Port Royal; no destruction of houses but some inhabitants taken prisoner[14]
1704 death, in Port-Royal

Research Notes

  • None of the prominent Acadian historians and genealogical researchers name his parents, though many trees name "Mathurin RHIBAUDA & Marie Dolbeau. No source has been found so far.
  • According to the nosoriginesqc website, the parentage here is correct:

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?pid=7778

Born 1631 Poitou, France.

Died 26 DEC 1704. Port Royal, Acadia, Nova Scotia, Canada. Age: 72-73.

No biography yet.[15] Can you add information or sources?

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 White, Stephen A. La généalogie des trente-sept familles hôtesses des "Retrouvailles 94", Les Cahiers de la Société historique acadienne, vol. 25, nos 2 et 3 (1994). (Thibodeau)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 White, Stephen A., Patrice Gallant, and Hector-J Hébert. Dictionnaire Généalogique Des Familles Acadiennes. Moncton, N.-B.: Centre D'études Acadiennes, Université De Moncton, 1999, Print, p1508-1511.
  3. 3.0 3.1 1707 homestead location of their children at Pré Rond Marsh. In Au Coeur de l'Acadie Acadian Settlement on the Annapolis River 1707 Map Parks Canada
  4. 4.0 4.1 Massignon, Geneviève. "Les parlers français d'Acadie, enquête linguistique", Librairie Klincksieck, Paris, 1962, 2 tomes, p32 (first French families in Acadia) p51 (Thibaudeau family; marriage in Port Royal.
  5. Clark, Andrew Hill, Acadia; the geography of early nova Scotia to 1760. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1968. p145 (Thibodeau founder of Chipoudy-Shepody)
  6. George MacBeath, Biography – RAZILLY, ISAAC DE – Volume I (1000-1700) – Dictionary of Canadian Biography Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed November 20
  7. William I. Roberts, 3rd, “SEDGWICK, ROBERT,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 1, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed November 20, 2013
  8. In collaboration, “MORILLON DU BOURG,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 1, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed November 20, 2013
  9. Pioneer Families, in 1755 l'Histoire et les Histoires, University of Moncton
  10. Griffiths, Naomi E.S., From migrant to Acadian : a North-American border people, 1604-1755, Montreal (Québec), McGill-Queen's University Press, 2005, p147-151 (King William’s War); p 267-268 (oaths of allegiance)
  11. C.P.Stacey, “PHIPS, SIR WILLIAM,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 1, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003, accessed November 20, 2013
  12. Biography of William Phipps
  13. C.Bruce Fergusson,“LA TOURASSE, CHARLES,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 1, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003, accessed November 20, 2013
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 14.4 Dunn, Brenda. A History of Port Royal / Annapolis Royal 1605-1800. Nimbus Publishing, p vii,ix,1-12 (early European settlement); p13 (1629 Food abundance Scottish settlement); p32 (Church and School 1686));p 40,43 (1693 PR raid); p44-45 (1697 Treaty of Ryswick); p52-53(1702 Queen Anne’s War); p61-62 (Blockade of PR); p 71-73(1707 Attack on PR); p82-85(1710 Siege of PR).
  15. Profile created by Gloria McLaughlin through the import of Gloria Geneology.ged on Jul 19, 2018. This comment and citation should be deleted after a short biography has been added and primary sources have been cited.
  • 1671 Acadian Census at Port Royal: Pierre THIBEAUDEAU, 40, wife Jeanne TERRIAU 27; Children: Pierre 1, Marie 10, Marie 9, Marie 7, Anne Marie 6, Catherine 4; cattle 12, sheep 11.
  • 1678 Acadian Census at Port-Royal: Pierre Thibaudeau & Jeanne Terriot-12 acres, 30 cattle, 3 boys: age 11- born 1669, 7-1671, 5-1673: and 5 girls: 12-1666, 8-1670, 4-1674, 3-1675, 1-1677.
Ages from this census: Pierre TIBAUDEAU 55, Jeanne TERIOT 43, Marie 25, Marie 23, Marie 21, Catherine 19, Anne Marie 17, Pierre 16, Jeanne 14, Jean 13, Antoine 12, Pierre 10, Michel 8, Cecille 6, Anne Marie 4, Claude 2.
  • 1686 Acadian Census at Port-Royal: Pierre TIBAUDEAU 55, Jeanne TERRIOT: 43; children: Marie 25, Marie 23, Marie 21, Catherine 19, Anne-Marie 16, Pierre 16, Jeanne 14, Jean 13, Antoine 12, Pierre 10, Michel 8, Cecille 6, Anne-Marie 4, Claude 2; 1 gun, 10 arpents, 14 cattle, 5 sheep, 7 hogs.
  • 1693 Acadian census at Port-Royal: Pierre TIBAUDEAU 59, Jeanne TERRIOT 50, Anthoine 17, Pierre 15, Michel 13, Cecille 11, Marie 10, Claude 8, Catherine Josephe 7, Charles 4; 20 cattle, 30 sheep, 12 pigs, 30 arpents, 2 guns
  • 1698 Acadian census at Port-Royal: Pierre TIBAUDEAU 65; Jeanne TERRIOT (wife) 57; Jean 24; Antoine 22; Pierre 21; Michelle 19; Claude 13; Catherine 11; Charles 7; 20 cattle, 20 sheep, 8 hogs, 32 arpents, 20 fruit trees, 4 guns
  • 1700 Acadian census at Port-Royal: Piere THIBAUDEAU 66; Jeanne TERRIOT (wife) 57; Anthoine 26; Piere 22; Michel 20; Claude 15; Charles 11; Marie 17; Catherine 14; 30 cattle, 28 sheep, 30 arpents, 3 guns.
  • 1701 Acadian census at Port-Royal: Pierre TIBAUDEAU 71, Jeanne THIRIOT [Terriot] (wife) 50; Jean TIBAUDEAU 27, Anthoine 23, Pierre 21, Michel 19, Claude 16, Charles 13, Cecile 19, Catherine 14; 7 guns, 30 cattle, 25 sheep, 12 hogs, 19 arpents.
  • 1703 Acadian census at Port-Royal: Pierre THIBAUDOT, his wife, 4 boys, 2 girls, 4 arms bearers.


Footnotes

Note

Note: THIBODEAU, Pierre, n 1631 [R1671], [R1686], laboureur en 1671, <futur fondateur de Chipody, >, peut-être originaire de Martaize (Vienne), peut-être arrivé entre 1632 et 1636 [RR p. 73], n 1633 [R1699], n 1630 [R1701]
TERRIAU, Jeanne, n 1644 [R1671] ou 1643 [R1686] (Jean & Perrine BOURG) [R1671-M], n 1642 [R1699]
1. Marie, n 1661 [R1671], [R1686], prob. m Pierre LE JEUNE dit BRIAR [R1671+R1686]
2. Marie, n 1662/1663 [R1671:8 áa 9] ou 1663 [R1686]
3. Marie, n 1664 [R1671] ou 1665 [R1686]
4. Anne-Marie, n 1665 [R1671] ou 1666/1669 [R1686], m Claude BOUDROT [R1671+R1686]
5. Catherine, n 1667 [R1671], [R1686]
6. Pierre, n 1670 [R1671], [R1686], m 1706 Marie Anne AUCOIN [ACR-3]
7. Jeanne, n 1672 [R1686]
8. Jean, n 1673 [R1686], n 1674 [R1701]
9. Antoine, n 1674 [R1686], n 1675 [R1699], n 1678 [R1701]
10. Pierre, n 1676 [R1686], n 1677 [R1699], n 1680 [R1701]
11. Michel, n 1678 [R1686], n 1679 [R1699], n 1682 [R1701]
12. Cécile, n 1680 [R1686], n 1682 [R1701]
13. Anne-Marie, n 1682 [R1686], n 1682 [R1699]:Marie
14. Claude, n 1684 [R1686] [R1699], n 1685 [R1701]
15. Catherine, n 1685 [R1699], n 1687 [R1701]
16. Charles, n 1688 [R1699] [R1701]
VIGNIOT?, Jeanne, n 1651 [R1701]
Source: [Haut-Poitou] p. 95-96, peut-être originaire de Martaize, mais non confirmé (le patronyme existerait à cet endroit), d'après Geneviève Massignon[16]

NOTE:

The following statement and source are in error:
Father Mathurin Thibodeau Mother Marie Dolbeau
http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogy=Pierre_Thibodeau&pid=7778&lng=en&partID=7779

The only source cited on NosOrigines (which is a repository and not an actual source) is Tanguay dictionary, which does NOT name any parents for him. That can be viewed here under the letter T : http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/dicoGenealogie/ Liard-1 20:40, 6 March 2016 (EST)


Acknowledgements

Thank you to Joseph Bahan for creating WikiTree profile Thibodeaux-153 through the import of jbb_2009-03-10_2009-03-10_2013-11-30.ged on Nov 30, 2013.

Robert Babin, firsthand knowledge.

Thibodeaux-191 was created by Kate King through the import of Londre Family Tree.ged on Jun 24, 2014.




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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Pierre by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share DNA with Pierre:

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Pierre Thibodeau et Jeanne Terriau
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Burial Record for Pierre Thibodeau
Burial Record for Pierre Thibodeau

Collaboration

On 14 Jun 2017 at 23:15 GMT Sunny (Trimbee) Clark wrote:

Linked as mother's grave [1]

On 23 Jul 2016 at 22:08 GMT L (Gauvin) G wrote:

Thibodaux-11 and Thibodeau-30 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, dates, child

On 10 Apr 2016 at 02:59 GMT Donna (Friebel) Storz wrote:

I came across this statement written back in 2005 by Shirley Thibodeaux LeBlanc, who at the time was President of the Thibodeaux Family Association of Louisiana.

"Pierre arrived at Port Royal, Acadia in 1654, under contract for three years at a wage of 100 livres per year (this information is contained in the "Catalogue des Immigrants" By Marcel Trudel)."

Does anyone have access to this source? I found this information at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/THIBODEAU/2005-12/1135615142

On 7 Mar 2016 at 20:07 GMT Dawn Ellis wrote:

Jeannette, do you know anyone who has tested ydna who is descended from Pierre?

On 7 Mar 2016 at 18:04 GMT Jeannette (Martin) Saladino wrote:

I have confirmed through DNA tests that Pierre Thibodeau is my paternal seventh great grandfather! This is wonderful for me as no direct males in my tree have, or had been able to have, their DNA tested. I need to research further, because I think I am also related to this Pioneer Acadian family through my maternal line which I've had DNA tested (mtDNA and AutosomalDNA).

On 7 Mar 2016 at 17:52 GMT Jeannette (Martin) Saladino wrote:

I have been tracing this family, and yesterday came across once again a bookmarked Canadian web page listing research on the Thibodeau and others families) - a wonderful web page, I might add - and have continued to jot down information on this Acadian pioneer family. Had/have every intention of certifying the info., and to include it on WikiTree. But, your hard work has already done most of it for me. Thanks a bunch,

Sincererly,

Jeannette (Martin-Brideau) Saladino

On 7 Mar 2016 at 02:06 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

PPP added again , see same G2G

On 7 Mar 2016 at 01:24 GMT Danielle Liard wrote:

Have removed the parents, the source Nos origines cites Tanguay only, which does NOT name parents for him. Tanguay record can be viewed on this site: http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/dicoGenealogie/ under the letter T

On 6 Mar 2016 at 12:08 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

Hi,

PPP removed because , see G2G

Greets, Bea

On 25 Feb 2016 at 20:16 GMT Dawn Ellis wrote:

What we need are direct line male descendants, at least one from Pierre, and at least one from Mathurin. Do Y-dna and if they match they are brothers. Any volunteers?

Alas, it appears that Mathurin had no sons?

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