John Murray Thomas (abt. 1793 - 1869)

Born about 1793 in Jonesville, Saratoga, New York, United States

Husband of Sylvia (Beebe) Thomas — married 1827 in Hamilton, New York

Descendants

Died 3 Aug 1869 at about age 76 in Troy, Rensselaer, New York, United States

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Biography

John Thomas died on the third of August 1869 ^[1] and was buried in the Oakwood Cemetery at Troy, Rensselaer County, New York; from the inscription on his tombstone we know that he was 76 years old on the date of his death, hence John was born about 1793.

Source Extracts

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Death Record Extracts

• Primary Source, (burial); Tertiary Source (biography), Find A Grave Index ^[1] Data Summary:

1. ) John Thomas, was born (unknown) and he died 3 Aug 1869
2. ) BURIAL. John Thomas was buried in the Oakwood Cemetery at Troy, Rensselaer County, New York, USA. PLOT: Section F
   1. ) Find a Grave Notes: "Aged 76 years."
   2. ) Tombstone Inscription, John Thomas Died August 3, 1869 Aged 76 Years {Editorial, date of birth circa 1793}

Biographic and Genealogical Reference Extracts

• Secondary Source, Brainard, Homer Worthington, A Survey of the Ishams in England an America; Eight Hundred and Fifty Years of History and Genealogy ^[2] Data Extract:

1. ) Isham Genealogy; scanned Image of page 139: Page 138-140. Grandparents: Isaac Isham Jr. married three times. First to Elizabeth Brown (1724-1770) on 16 Feb 1742; second to Elizabeth Snow (1741-1776) on 19 Dec 1771, and married third, probably in Colchester, Fruin Beebe, " no date discovered". {Editorial: Given that Wealthy Isham was born 16 Apr 1784, neither Elizabeth Brown nor Elizabeth Snow could have been her mother as they were dead prior to her birth. From the text of the Brainard, Isham Genealogy, it is a logical extension that Wealthy Isham was the daughter of Fruin Beebe. However there is an undocumented assertion in the Wikitree profile of Isaac Isham Jr. that Alice Glass, was also his wife in some undocumented time period. Because the only identified and accessible data source for Wealthy Isham is the Brainard Genealogy, This Wikitree profile has elected to assign Fruin Beebe as the mother of Wealthy Isham for two reasons, first the only other known documentation for Fruin Beebe states that she was born in 1740, which would make her a biologically viable mother for Wealthy in 1784 and second, the only known source linking Fruin Beebe as the wife of Isaac Isham is the Brainard Genealogy which states she was the third wife of Isaac.}
2. ) Isham Genealogy; scanned Image of page 179: Page 179. Wealthy Isham (47)], daughter of Isaac Isham Jr. was born 16 April 1784 in Westchester Parish, Colchester, Connecticut and she died about 1863 probably in Carbon Cliff, Illinois.
   1. ) Marriage. About 1801, Wealthy Isham married Silas Beebe, son of Silas and Esther (Cone) Beebe. Silas Beebe was born 1773 in Colchester, Conn. and he died about 1849. Wealthy and Silas Beebe were the parents of:
      1. ) Sophia Beebe b. ____ d. unmarried.
      2. ) Rosetta Beebe b. ____ d. unmarried
      3. ) Sylvia Beebe (b. 1808; d. 1841 at Norwich, NY); married in Hamilton, NY John Murray Thomas (b. Jonesville, NY; d. Troy NY). Children:
         1. ) Sophia. b. ____ d. young
         2. ) Silvia b. ____ d. infancy
         3. ) William Silas Thomas, (b. 1828) m. Sarah Thorp at Norwich, NY. Residence: Alexander, Saline, Ark.
            1. ) Charles Thorp Thomas
         4. ) Betsey Ann Thomas, (b. 1830 at Norwich, NY; d.1908 at Zumbrota, MN). Married Peter P Scott at Coventry, NY. Children:
            1. ) Hattie Scott. (b. 1850 at Chenango Forks, NY; d. in infancy)
            2. ) Charles H. Scott (b. 1859 at Carbon Cliff, Ill.; d. age 22)
            3. ) S. B. Scott, (b. 18 June 1868 at Zumbrota, MN, where he was living in 1909)
         5. ) Eliza Thomas (b 1832 at Norwich,NY), married Norman S. Rogers in 1852 at Chenango Forks, NY. Children:
            1. ) Carrie A. Rogers, (b. 1854), m. first Asa Peck at Zumbrota, MN; second Frank Peck
            2. ) William T, Rogers (b. 1857)
         6. ) John Thomas (b. 1833; d. 1863 in the Civil War at NYC, NY)
         7. ) Charles H. Thomas (b 1835 at Norwich, NY); moved to Redlands, CA and had 10-11 children
         8. ) Martin Van Buren Thomas (b. 1837 in Norwich, NY, d. 1863 at Little Rock, Ark during the Civil War.
   2. ) Biography: Silas and Wealthy Beebe removed to Hamilton, NY, possibly with her brother and father. Their children were born in Hamilton, NY. Silas was a Major in the War of 1812.
3. ) Note: Authority for the Genealogy of Wealthy (Isham) Beebe is from a letter by Mrs. Norman S. Rogers, dated 9 March 1909; Oakland. CA

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1} Find A Grave Index, John Murray Thomas burial record and tombstone photo
2. ↑ Brainard, Homer Worthington, A Survey of the Ishams in England an America; Eight Hundred and Fifty Years of History and Genealogy , Rutland , Vt. Tuttle 1938. Ancestry.com operations 2005. A downloadable version of the book is available here