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John A. Thompson
Born 1940s.
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-01 Sept 1951; My father told me we descended from the Marquess of Ely-12 Jul 2002; Joined Ancestry.ca-15 Jun 2020; Joined WikiTree

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As a "Tree Hugger", I want to congratulate you on your Generous Genealogist award issued on July 9, 2020.

John Williams

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posted by [Living Williams]
Thanks John.......They are ancestors and cousins and appeared to be getting lonely. Jack
posted by John Thompson
I meant to post this a wee while ago but have been caught up on other Wikitree stuff. Welcome to the Scotland project. I hope you get a great deal of pleasure collaborating with colleagues in this great project. If you have any questions or wish any advice either send me a private message or email me.
Thank you , Mark. You will find me busy at work in the area......hope to hear from Project members. Jack
posted by John Thompson
Thanks for having a big heart and adopting the Orphaned Profiles. This link https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Orphaned_Profiles#After_adopting_orphans explains the special attention adopted profiles will sometimes need. This should answer any questions about how to find and record sources, merge duplicates, clean up gedcom biographies, and interpret the Suggestions report.
posted by Kim Williams
Thankyou Kim, These are, largely, my ancestors and cousins, some of whom might become lonely and neglected. Jack
posted by John Thompson
Hey grandpa,

Just wondering if we have either the surname Kruger or Bohnenstengel in our tree from the Seelow, Kr. Griefenhagen, Stettin Pomerania area? It's now part of Poland called Zelewo, Gryfino, Szczecin, Poland.

posted by [Living Winning]
WikiTree has many Krugers and 1 Bohnenstengel which you can enter into search. If help is needed........which side of family and more details.......would be helpful. Grampa Jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi,

The best tree right now to verify on the Polish and Russian size is the one below. She currently has documents from Russia that she is having a translator work through. If your DNA results are on ancestry(if not I can give you access to mine) and you can use the other family members and search for those last names in the trees of others to see if there are any matching DNA's with them. There may not be a lot from Poland, as the EU has some restrictions around this at this time due to privacy and exposure of the living.

The tree below is by Rita Wagner, and I will say her work is meticulous, the Polish side has not been one that I've been ready to explore yet due to the huge learning curve. But one my closest friend is from there, so if there are documents that need to be translated I can get that done. I'm hoping over the next few years to do the research and dive down that rabbit hole as I expect to travel to there in 2021 or 2022 once restricts lift as it is one of the next 3 countries on the list. These are your best names to work with at this time. I'd also suggest looking at DNA matches for people located in Poland then look at their ancestors to see if there seem to be some that repeat themselves as that is usually a sign of hitting upon things. If you can find enough from different lines, the possibility to do what is called triangulation on the DNA to prove the paper trail.

https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/tree/2256737/family/pedigree?cfpid=1840696861

Now keep in mind it is a working tree, so not all info is necessarily guaranteed to be accurate and before any profiles can be added to wikitree we need to ensure they are sourced, but the profiles are open so you can work on them once you have documents.

There is also the option of creating a Lazarus DNA profile on gedmatch, if the eldest family member M would be willing to do a dna test through ancestry, we can upload those results to gedmatch, Then if immediate kids also do the same (I think you can might be able to get up to 4, L is definitely not an option) can be combined, then remove M's and you will have a strong profile DNA with Harry's to look for more matches that will link to the Russian and Polish Sides.

Rita and i have also agreed to split costs on YDNA test when they have a sale for her partner, which will allow confirmation of the Russian side and other descendants and additional proof.

posted by Kristina Wheeler
Mackenzie, Kathy's niece and your cousin, Kristina, has replied to our questions, that you can view on my site. You might contact Kristina and, also, mention your DNA test. Can you explain more about the ancestors in question? Grampa
posted by John Thompson
I got an email from a cousin named Beth, saying:

Hello cousin!

I'm attempting to solve the mystery of the identity of my 97 year old great-aunt Betty's great-grandfather. Her grandfather, Wilhelm Freiderich Carl Kruger, was illegitimate and no father is listed. He was born in 1846 in Seelow, Kr. Griefenhagen, Stettin Pomerania, which is now part of Poland called Zelewo, Gryfino, Szczecin, Poland. Records were lost in WWII save for a few Ahnenpass documents a cousin from behind the Iron Curtain posted to his tree on Ancestry. This (along with other documents) verified that his mother's name was Regina Kruger and she was also born in Seelow in 1824. Her parents are listed on said documents as Christian and Sofia Kruger (not sure if they had the same last name or if that was also her maiden name or the person filling out the form just neglected her maiden name).

A DNA match from Germany who is descended from her and the man she married after Wilhelm's birth confirmed this DNA link. This husband's name was Freidrich Bohnenstengel. They had more children together as well. You also match this German DNA match, he is listed as Thomas Boigenreif kit number WY2320572 on gedmatch. My great-aunt's kit is UW7150129. They both match your kit XS7995192.

My question for you, if you've gone back far enough in your research, is if you have either the surname Kruger or Bohnenstengel in your tree from this area. If its Bohnenstengel, then Wilhelm's father is also Thomas' ancestor and we are full cousins and the mystery is solved. If you have Kruger well its more confirmation at least that line is correct. If you have neither, then perhaps we are getting somewhere with the identity of the mysterious father if you have other surname links to that area of Pomerania.

posted by [Living Winning]
Hi, Jack,

I understand you are fairly new to Wikitree. I intended to offer to help you with documentation. But if someone else is helping already, I'l just wish you the best with your genealogy. And if you need help in understanding how to document your ancestors, I am willing and experienced in lineage research. Kathy

Accepted........have been meeting you in my travels. Jack
posted by John Thompson
My wife, Kathy, (Wagner-11921) and I would appreciate help in documentation........also, I've sent a comment to David Hughey about extending the Moore line.
posted by John Thompson
Glad to help. Have you added any documentation to, say, your great-grandparents’ profiles?

Look at my great-grandfather’s profile, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Alvis-18. I have more documentation than might be needed, but this was uploaded years ago from my Reunion file. The key parts are those which give birth, marriage, death, and connection to parents. Other facts are the censuses which support those and points of interest, such as the fact that although he was not of German descent, his wife’s family was, and therefore he was a victim of discrimination during World War II.

Are you tracing all the members of your family, such as aunts, uncles, cousins, or just the direct line? Obviously, this takes time, but genealogy is not something to be hurried. Kathy

Kathy, All......also, I descend from all the Surety Barons, incl. King John, and my wife is my cousin, just for a kickstart. We have over 3 boxes of documents and photos to learn how to enter........meanwhile entering closer "missing"relatives.......I joined WT to complete the gaps in some lines. Thankyou for your interest. Jack
posted by John Thompson
Starting closer and working back is the way to learn what does and and what doesn't make good documentation.
posted by Katherine (Alvis) Patterson
edited by Katherine (Alvis) Patterson
Have documentation for my father, Thompson, his mother, Benwell, her mother, Tottenham and so forth.......if you find it interesting I would welcome a request to our trusted list. Jack
posted by John Thompson
Yes, of course. As a Wikitree Project mentor, I'd like to see your profiles.
You have blocked the merge of William Borthwick (Borthwick-128) and William Borthwick (Borthwick-597). I have addressed the issues and would ask you to revisit this please. They are most definitely the same individuals.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
Hi Gregory, Thankyou for your reply........I'm new to WikiTree........my concern is for their different descendants,of whom,Oliphant would be mine.I would welcome your oversight to help me maintain WikiTree standards. Jack
posted by John Thompson
There is a query in any case regarding the daughter who was married to Oliphant. However the merging of these two identical men should not displace anyone on either of their profiles. I am working very hard to correct the countless errors on all these pages. Some are just sloppiness other just howling errors.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
I am of the opinion that the Oliphant connection may not be correct........may I follow your lead in merging the two Williams.......I was responding to Robin in G2G, where you can follow the comments. Jack
posted by John Thompson
There is no mention of the Borthwick-Oliphant connexion in either Nisbet or Macfarlane's Collections (in the latter is the "Genealogy of the Oliphants").

As this is pre-1400 the chances of confirming it are scant if the main authorities don't record it. I shall keep looking.

posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
I wish to unblock the merger.......but stopped short of clicking confirm lest I create more work......how do I proceed?
posted by John Thompson
We need to proceed with this. Please unblock the merge.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
I proceeded and unblocked the merge. I am on the Graham line and do not need to be overly concerned with this Oliphant ancestor.
posted by John Thompson
I have established that the Borthwick/Oliphant girl cannot be a daughter of the 1st Lord Borthwick's father as the chronology is impossible. I have therefore reassigned her to the earlier Sir William Borthwick of that Ilk. That probably makes little difference to your concerns.
posted by Gregory Lauder-Frost
Agreed .......I will be researching at Margaret Graham-141
posted by John Thompson
Hello John

We would be happy to have you join the Magna Carta Project as an affiliate member. To join as an Affiliate, just add the Affiliate sticker to your profile under the =Biography= heading & send a join request to the Google Group (include your WikiTree ID). We will take care of the rest.

Welcome to the project ! If you have further questions feel free to contact me.

David Douglass

posted by David Douglass
Hi David, I'm completing my join request........Re; my adoptions ,most are ancestors, some are cousins and some would've got left out and become lonely. Jack
posted by John Thompson
David, I have completed an e-mail address........am I in? Jack
posted by John Thompson
My suggestion file is now over to you......for review. Jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi again John

Thanks for reviewing your tags

Just checking in with you to see how it is going were the How-Tos pages helpful. If you have questions, ask  in our G2G forum Click Here  or click REPLY below this message, to ask me

Clicking your green tags shows you members who follow that tag. Add tags for other family surnames, for locations or interests. Tags link you to the community sourcing & research options, to add more tags (you can have 20) go to  your tags

Explore https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Projects  

Check out our Videos Click Here  If needed you can turn on the subtitles on the video's

We want to help you learn about the site and the community, hope you found the pages and links useful. 

Janet~Wikitree Messenger

P.S If links do not work in an email from WikiTree click in the comment box on your profile 

PPS. Please avoid the use of abbreviations as they can mean different things in different countries, always use the full words   

posted by Janet (Langridge) Wild
Thanks Janet,......such as military titles?
posted by John Thompson
Hi John

Thank you for the query

If you are placing Military titles into the suffix field then the accepted abbreviations are fine just do not add ., as they are not

Use the full military title in the biography so as to differentiate the use in different countries

One of the main problems is with locations such as MI first thing I think of is Myocardial Infarction! ( Retired Nurse) or Mile (being English) Mi relates to a musical instrument in China.

Keep an eye on your suggestion list which you can find here https://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTWeb/Suggestions.htm?UserID=26865761

Check out the help pages to help you fix the suggestions any problems let me or Sheryl know as we coordinate the Data Doctor Project

All the best Janet

posted by Janet (Langridge) Wild
Hi John

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz

Because pre-1700 ancestors are shared by many descendants, working within the projects coordinating them is essential. Please ensure location data matches dates of profile, avoid abbreviations. Add citations & links for sources to support the data. From wiki ID go to Research to find sources, please review this page https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Pre-1700_Profiles#Cite_reliable_sources   

The Scotland Project would be of interest. Adding the tag  SCOTLAND will provide updates about the project. Follow this link for your Tags:   your tags  Please note your current tags are circular and only come back to you Surname and Location tags should contain one (1) name only to connect into the community

BENWELL

TOTTENHAM

THOMPSON

MOORE

For double barrelled surnames us an underscore to connect

ROSS_LEWIN

Explore Projects list to find one that fits your research focus, whether time period, location, or topic. Read the goals & tasks of the project join if it fits

Questions ask Here  

To contact me, be sure to use the "reply" link for this comment so that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment, on my profile page.   

Janet ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

PS Links not working, click them in your comment box 

posted by Janet (Langridge) Wild
HI Janet , I have edited as suggested. Thankyou, jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi John

Thank you for adding your DNA Test to your profile on WikiTree. Getting Started with DNA will tell you more about how DNA kits are used on WikiTree.

DNA at WikiTree provides a visual way for you to find others who have tested and have the potential of having common ancestors. It normally takes 24 hours from adding a test, or adding a new ancestor, or ancestor’s descendant, for WikiTree to display your name and test results on your ancestors and their descendants’ profiles for potential cousins to compare results with.

Have fun!

Wendy ~ WikiTree Greeter

Hi John,

Thanks for your note! There is a Puritan Great Migration Project you may be interested in joining.

See you in the branches!

Azure Rae

posted by Azure Robinson
edited by Azure Robinson
I am pleased to welcome you to WikiTree! Thank you for upgrading. You are now ready to add and edit profiles.

Click here to start with New Member How-To. They will save you time, energy as you add your family profiles.

I hope you enjoy WikiTree as much as I do.

If you have questions about how WikiTree works, let me know. You can use the "reply" link under this comment or click my name, then ask in the comment section of my page.

Gilly ~ WikiTree Greeter

P.S. Sometimes links don't work in emails. If that's happened to you, check the public comments on your profile, as the links will work from there.

posted by [Living Wood]
Hi Gilly, I recognize 14 common ancestors or cousins at first glance. jack
posted by John Thompson
I am delighted John. Let me know if you have questions.

Regards, -Gilly

posted by [Living Wood]
Gilly,Building tree to our common ancestor.....heading to connect to closest WikiTree Benwell ---Wilhelmina Ross-Lewin. jack
posted by John Thompson
Gilly, I have a few profiles.....do you have a random name to aim to merge with? jack
posted by John Thompson
Hello Cousin John.

Well done indeed. We are 15th Cousins, I will send you the relationship trail. -Gilly

posted by [Living Wood]
E-mail received. jack P.S. will work toward others.
posted by John Thompson
Hi Gilly, I posted a comment to McBeth-165........can you access it ? I'm also looking for oversight of my work especially pre1500. jack
posted by John Thompson
Yes Jack and I see Emma gave you excellent advice regarding adding Sources. I will just add that When you propose a merge keep in mind the Higher ID Number must be merged into the Lower ID Number.
posted by [Living Wood]
edited by [Living Wood]
Thank you Gilly,I've caught onto the I.D. numbers and would welcome your oversight on pre1500s. Jack
posted by John Thompson
You will soon gain confidence Jack and you need not worry. The Pre-1500 Profiles are monitored daily as a general routine by some of us who undertake Ranger Duty.
posted by [Living Wood]
edited by [Living Wood]
Hello and Welcome to WikiTree!

This is just a note to say hello and to let you know that I'm available to answer questions about WikiTree.

To contact me, be sure to use the "reply" link for this comment so that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment, on my profile page.

Emma ~ WikiTree Greeter

hi, my wife,kathy,is now helping me access e mails......also trying,now,to enter parents profile. jack
posted by John Thompson
Wonderful. If you are unable to add and edit profiles, you will need to upgrade your membership to a Family Membership. This gives you additional access to features.
Hi Emma, You were my fist contact.......would like to view and comment? jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi John. view and comment on your family tree? It's looking good! The one thing you need to go back and do is add at least one source to each profile. Sources are documents such as birth, death, marriage records and census records. You can see on this profile what source citations look like: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Heskett-28 You don't have to have this many to start with, but it gives you an idea. Emma :-)
Emma.That is the style I like.....also have photos and documents.Have memorized thousands of relatives for several thousand years....putting in several straight lines to mergers,then putting the meat on the bones. jack
posted by John Thompson
Hi Emma, I'm reaching out to pre1500 certified members, that my own application is delayed, because I've only been a member for a week and further contact through that channel is cut off. I would like to carry on into the 1400s and earlier connecting my ancestral gaps on WikiTree. My profiles and projects can be monitored as req'd and I welcome oversight. jack P.S. I will be adding additional documentation.
posted by John Thompson
Hi Jack, I reached out to the WikiTree Mentors to see if someone can work with you one on one to get you plugged in to help you reach your goals. Someone will contact you soon. Emma

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