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John Tilley (abt. 1571 - abt. 1621)

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John Tilley
Born about in Henlow, Bedfordshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusettsmap
Tilley-84 created 21 Oct 2010 | Last modified | Last edit: 17 Dec 2017
10:28: Rick Pierpont proposed a merge of Tilley-1627 and Tilley-84. [Thank Rick for this]
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John Tilley was a passenger on the Mayflower.
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Question: What is the relationship of these two Tilley families:

  • Robert Tilley, father of Edmund. Born 1540, Henlow, Bedfordshire.
  • John Tilley, father of Rose, John, Robert and Elizabeth. Born 1571, Henlow, Bedfordshire.

Answer: Robert is the father of both Edmund and John, who are siblings. Edmund (baptized Edward) died at Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620, as did his brother John Tilley.[1]Dellinger-332

Editing Note: No "primary source" documentation provided to show that the marriage of John Tilley and Elizabeth Comyings is the same John Tilley who was a Mayflower Passenger. See * Source: Robert S. Wakefield, "Additions and Corrections to Torrey", The American Genealogist, Vol 67: Page 31. This source states that this John Tilley did not marry Elizabeth Comyings.

  • Source: Robert Leigh Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers", The American Genealogist, Vol 52 Pages 198-205

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Biography

1571 Baptism

19 DEC 1571 Henlow, County Bedford, England. Henlow Parish Register& Bishop's Transcripts; Baptisms:1574, Dec. 19; John, s. Robert Tillye[2]

1596 Marriage

20 SEP 1596 Henlow, Co. Bedford, England. Henlow Parish Register & Bishop's Transcripts; Marriages: Tilley; 1596, Sep. 20; John Tyly & Joan Rogers[2]

Emigration 1620 on the Mayflower

Plymouth, Plymouth County, Massachusetts. The list of passengers on the Mayflower given by Governor William Bradford (2nd Governor of Massachusetts), in "Of Plimoth Plantation", page 449, includes the following:

'John Tilley and his wife, and Elizabeth their daughter.'[2][3]

1621 Death and Burial

11 JAN 1621 Plymouth, Massachusetts #S41 Genealogical Dictionary under Tilley states:

John, Plymouth, perhaps brother of Edward, came with wife and one child Elizabeth in the Mayflower, 1620, and all (it was believed by Shurtleff in Geneal. Reg. I. 52) died next winter. But his daughter Elizabeth who married John Howland outlived all her fellow passengers. except three who were younger.

Buried 10 Apr 1621 Coles Hill, Plymouth, Plymouth, Mass

According to "Saints and Strangers", by George F. Willison, Reynal & Hitchcock, New York, 1945, pg.439, under "Saints" is a "silk worker, of London. On third discovery, probably on First and Second as well." He died shortly after arrival in America.

Sources

  • Wikipedia article on John Tilley:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tilley_(Mayflower_passenger)

  1. Robert Leigh Ward, "English Ancestry of Seven Mayflower Passengers", The American Genealogist, Vol 52 Page203
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 The American Genealogist v. 52; #4; p. 198
  3. History of Plymouth Plantation, by William Bradford, 2nd Governor of Massachusetts, database online at Google Books. (pub.1856). A Primary Source: records and diary kept by Gov Bradford in Plymouth; first hand account of their persecutions in England, fleeing to Holland in 1607/08, and leaving Holland for the New World in July 1620.
  • Caleb H Johnson, "Manorial Records - New Information," The Mayflower Quarterly, Vol 76, No. 2 (June 2010), 125-134.
  • James Savage, Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England (Originally published Boston 1860-62, reprinted April 1873 and 1884. Reproduced by Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore 1981.)
  • Edward Norris Wentworth, Jr. The Genealogy of Edward Norris Wentworth Junior. Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA; Date: June 1928. Special Project Submitted in Courses in Community Life and Advance Biology at the University High School, University of Chicago
  • Robert Charles Anderson, "The Great Migration Begins, Immigrants to New England 1620-1633," Published 1995 by The New England Historic Genealogical Society, Volume 3, Page 1822.

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On 8 Oct 2017 at 10:44 GMT Becky (Nally) Syphers wrote:

Tilley-1627 and Tilley-84 do not represent the same person because: Date of death and date of birth too far apart.

On 23 Aug 2017 at 12:15 GMT Becky (Nally) Syphers wrote:

Tilley-1627 and Tilley-84 appear to represent the same person because: Please Merge

On 7 May 2015 at 18:48 GMT Henry Chadwick wrote:

Why is the final section included in the bio? It has nothing to do with this John Tilley, who died in 1621.



John is 22 degrees from Aaron Copland, 20 degrees from AJ Jacobs, 16 degrees from Barbara Shoff and 16 degrees from Queen Elizabeth II Windsor on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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