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Adelais (Tours) de Tours (abt. 0811 - abt. 0866)

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Adelais (Adelaide) "Aélis" de Tours formerly Tours aka d'Alsace, de Ponthieu
Born about in Tours, Francemap
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married 0820 in Tours, Indre Et Loire, Francemap
Wife of — married 0860 in UNPROVENmap
Descendants descendants
Died about in Brissarthe, Anjou, Francemap
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Adelais of Tours

Adelais of Tours (d. after 866)[1][2]

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TO DO: EDIT TEXT ... or move to correct family About Aélis d'Alsace
[This is about her son Robert I and his presumed two wives "Aelis" and Beatrice]
Robert was married twice. Through his first wife, Aelis, a descendant of Charlemagne, he had two daughters. Each married powerful lay vassals of their father: Emma of France (894–935) to Rudolph, Duke of Burgundy, and Hildebranda (895–931) to Herbert II of Vermandois.

According to the Wikipedia entry on Beatrice de Vermandois, Robert I's second wife:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9atrice_of_Vermandois

Beatrice married Robert in 895 (roughly age 15) after Aelis/Adele du Maine died. Given that Adele de France was born also around 895, it is likely that the childbirth caused Robert's first wife's death. However, there are no records indicating much of anything about Aelis/Adele du Maine's life. Therefore, she was never Queen of France, merely the Duchess of France (wife of the Dux Francorum). [End of digression]

Note -- Not the wife of Robert of France, Count of Anjou, or at least not the mother of his children. Wikipedia: The name of Robert's wife is not attested in primary sources. According to some modern scholars she was Adelaide or Adalais, a daughter of Hugh of Tours and the widow of Conrad I of Auxerre (died 862), a Welf. Since Robert already had children by 862, Adelaide would have to have been his second wife. French genealogist Christian Settipani has identified the source of this identification as the unreliable twelfth-century Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon. The Europäische Stammtafeln has identified Robert's first wife as a certain Agane. Whatever the facts, two of Robert's sons became kings of France: Odo and Robert.

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I changed her estimated DOB to 811. If someone has information as to the actual DOB, please let us know. Thanks.
How did she marry Konrad (Welf0 Argengau in 820 and not be born until abt,. 825 ??
posted by Harry Kelly
De Tours-22 and Tours-5 appear to represent the same person because: These two look very similar, as do their husbands and sons. Could they represent different people?
De Tours-47 and UNKNOWN-57554 are not ready to be merged because: There is another profile for this woman - Tours-5 and both of these profiles should be merged into that one, as Tours is the correct LNAB according to EuroAristo naming standards.
posted by John Atkinson
John - the MatchBot-proposed merge looks gook based on given name & birth year, but comparing the two past that makes my head hurt (name of husband in one profile is the name of son in the other). Could you take a look & maybe add some details for Adelaide de Tours if they're not the same?

Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
UNKNOWN-57554 and Tours-5 are not ready to be merged because: There is quite a lot of doubt that Adelaide de Tours, married Robert, and even if she did, then she can't have been the mother of Eudes and Robert as they are mentioned in the records before 862 which is the earliest she can have married their father Robert.
posted by John Atkinson
Could this person be Adelaide Aelis Carolingian de Tours (824-864) daughter of Louis I (The Pious) King of France )778-840)?
posted by M Callahan
This profile should be OPEN as she is Adeleaide of Tours >>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_of_Tours

posted by Maggie N.
Unknown-211530 and Ponthieu-88 are not ready to be merged because: Needs more information. Possible they are the same person.

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