John Trethurffe (1451 - 1510)

Born 1451 in Trethurffe Manor, Ladock, Cornwall, England

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 20 Jun 1510 at about age 59 in Trethurffe Manor, Ladock, Cornwall, England

Biography

Marriage

John married Elizabeth de COURTENAY, daughter of Sir Hugh de COURTENAY of Bocconoc and Margaret CARMINOW, before 1477

Children

Katherine

Thomas Esq.

Reynold

Jane

Margaret

John TRETHERF of Tretherffe, Esq. •Born: Tretherff, Landrake, [sic=Ladock], Cornwall •Married: •Died: 20 Jun 1510

* Orthographic variations: , TRETHERFFE, TRETHURFFE, TREDURFFE. ^[1]

Research Notes

Ancestor of Elizabeth Parker, wife of William Adkins.

of Tretherff (in Landrake [sic = Ladock]), Argallas (in St. Enoder), Pettigrew (in Gerrans), Trevelwyth, etc.^[2]

1489-1480: “…from the mill called Melyn Nowith, because ruined; payment from John Tretherff for Skuwys released this year at Tremblyth …”

De Banco. Mich. 20. Ed. 4. [1480/1] m. 409.

Cornwall.— John Tretherff, Armiger, sued Thomas Glasen for breaking into his closes at Seynt Elven, Trewoen in the parish of Seynt Breke, and other places named. The pleadings give these pedigrees :—

John Tretherff, the plaintiff, son of Reginald, son of John, son of Reginald.^[3]

Cornwall Deeds

A. 10880. Release by Martin Nanspyan, chaplain, brother and heir of Reginald Nanspyan, to John Tretherff, esquire, of his right in land &c. in Tendeyll Mur, Treloddrowe and Tregonowe. Witnesses:—John Trenowyth, esquire, and others (named). 12 August, [6] Henry VII. [1491]

A. 9909. Indenture being a feoffment by John Tretherff the elder, esquire, to John Reskymer, esquire, and Katherine, his (Tretherff's) daughter, of all his lands, &c., in Trewynyan and Bodanowe, in the parish of St.Enoder,^[4] with the fealty, rent and service of 12d. and suit of court due from John Ronold in Trewynyan, 4d. rent, &c. from Martyn Roulyn in the same and 8d. rent, &c. from John Tregyskyde in the same, with the reversions of their free tenements; to them and the heirs of her body by the said John begotten; rent, a red rose at Midsummer, and two suits of court (legalis curie mee) within the manor of Trewynyan; with remainder to the said Katharine and the heirs of her body. Witness:—John Treffry, knight, John Tremayn, John Arundell of Talvern, William Trevenour and John Trevenour, esquires. Trewynyan, 3 January, 14 Henry VII. [1499]

In the period, 1502-3, as "John, son and heir of Reynold Tretherff," he sued John Tregasowe, executor of Stephen Tregasowe in Chancery regarding the detention of deeds relating to the manor of Pettigrew (in Gerrans), and messuages and land in Sorne and Trevelwyth, Cornwall.

Cornwall Deeds

A. 11471. Feoffment by John Jankyn Thomayngow son and heir of Jankyn Thomayngow of Lavowsa to John Tretherff the elder, esquire, and Elizabeth his wife, of all his lands, &c. in the town of Lavowsa, which are called Placea Enfenten; attorneys to deliver seisin, Vivian Penwern and Thomas T . . . . . . Witnesses:—John Arundell Talverne and others (named). The eve of the Apostles Peter and Paul, 17 Henry VII. [28 Jun 1502]

A. 10980. General release by John Nanswhydan the elder to John Tretherff the elder, esquire; also release and warranty to the said John Tretherff of all his land &c. in Treworian, whereof the said John Tretherff was then seised. Treworian, the eve of St. Clement the Pope, 18 Henry VII. [22 Nov 1502]

A. 9965. Indenture being a feoffment by John Tretherf the elder, esquire, to Reginald his son, in tail, of all his lands, &c. in the towns and places (locis) of Trempol and Carbous, with 3s. 4d. rent from all his lands in Treweros, except toll of tin and courts of his manor of [Treve]lwyth, and the suit of court of his tenants there; rent a grain of corn at Michaelmas; attorneys to deliver seisin John Tretherf, the younger, and . . . . . Penkevell. Witnesses:—Edward Cortenay, earl of Devon, and others (named). Trempoll, the feast of St. Simon and St. Jude, 19 Henry VII. [28 Oct 1503]

John Tretherff, Esq.1,2,3

M, #73439, b. circa 1452, d. 20 June 1510

Father Reynold (Reginald) Tretherff, Esq.1,3 b. c 1420 Mother Margaret St. Aubyn1,2,3 b. c 1417

John Tretherff, Esq. was born circa 1452 at of Tretherff in Landrake, Argallas in St. Enoder, Pettigrew in Gerrans, & Trevelwyth, Cornwall, England.1 He married Elizabeth Courtenay, daughter of Sir Hugh Courtenay and Margaret Carminow, before 1477; They had 3 sons (including Thomas, Esq; & Reynold, Esq.).1,2,3 John Tretherff, Esq. died on 20 June 1510 at of Tretherff in Landrake, Cornwall, England.1,2,3

Family Elizabeth Courtenay b. c 1453, d. a 1509 ^[5][6]

John was born in 1451. John Trethurffe ... He passed away in 1510. ^[7]

Note: The source I found puts John's birth at ca. 1440 as follows:

"~1440, John born in England, heir & s/o 950652. Reynold Tretherff & 950653. Margaret St. Aubyn.

~1450, Elizabeth born in England, d/o 950654. Hugh Courtnay & 950655. Margaret Carminow."^[8]

Sources

1. ↑ The above information compiled by ? viewable at: http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/2959.htm
2. ↑ NOTE by Chet Snow, May 8, 2014: The Trethurffe family's ancestral home was at Ladock, Cornwall, not Landrake. This is confirmed on pg. 153 of "A Complete Parochial History of the County of Cornwall," Vol. 4, by John Polsue, available online at: http://books.google.com/books?id=DRwiAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA153 - where, in discussing ancient families' coats of arms, he says: "Trethurffe of Trethurffe in Ladock: 'Az. a buck's head cabossed, Ar. attired or'." All future genealogists, please note! PS: Trethurffe Manor house still exists - cf. Google.com.
3. ↑ Note by Chet Snow, May 8, 2014: ‘By Tre, Pol, and Pen shall ye know all Cornishmen’ goes an old English saying because so many Cornish surnames begin with one of these three syllables: "tre" = homestead or farm, "pol" = lake, "pen" = hill. "Armiger" was an old term for someone with the right to bear arms, i.e., a gentleman... "Seynt Breke" or "St. Breca" was an old name for the modern parish of "Breage," which is near Ashton, Helston & Godolphin, at the tip of Cornwall. "Tremblyth" = Trembleath, a village near Newquay, Cornwall,
4. ↑ NOTE by Chet Snow, May 8, 2014: St. Enoder parish was adjacent to Ladock, where Trethurffe Manor is located. See: http://books.google.com/books?id=DRwiAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA153 - pg 160.
5. ↑ 1.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 241. 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 551. 3.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 336. 4.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 337.
6. ↑ http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2444.htm#i73439
7. ↑ Entered by Katherine Wall, Thursday, October 3, 2013.
8. ↑ http://www.teachergenealogist007.com/2010/05/bond-475326-475327.html - researched by Chet Snow, May 8, 2014

• Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. II p. 336
• Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. IV p. 515

The Herald's Visitations of the County of Cornwall, Tretherffe of Tretherffe, p. 497, Courtenay, p. 107; Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, by Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham, pp. 239-240; Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls, collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office, by Major-General The Hon. G. Wrottesley, p. 452; Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition, by Douglas Richardson, p. 551; 'Deeds: A.9901 - A.10000', A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 4 (1902), pp. 475-491; 'Deeds: A.10901 - A.11000', A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 5 (1906), pp. 61-77; 'Deeds: A.10801 - A.10900', A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 5 (1906), pp. 49-61; 'Deeds: A.11401 - A.11500', A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 5 (1906), pp. 140-155

• http://www.teachergenealogist007.com/2010/05/bond-475326-475327.html

• http://books.google.com/books?id=iGgPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA103 ("Devon & Cornwall: Notes & Queries," Vol. 4 - look up Trethurffe for its coat of arms. The book says the direct male-to-male line was extinct before 1600.

• http://www.teachergenealogist007.com/2010/05/bond-475326-475327.html

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