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Gronwy ap Tudor Trefor was born say 930.[1]
Goronwy ap Tuydor was the eldest son of Tudor Trevor and Anghard verch Hywel. [2]
Gronwy married Tangwystl ferch Dfnwal. [1]
Goronwy, Lord of Fierlys, married Tangwystl, daughter of Dyvnwal ab Alan ab Alsar ab Tudwal Gloff ab Rhodri Mawr. [3]
Gronwy, who died in his father's lifetime, married Tangwystl, daughter of Dyfnwal ap Alan ap Alser ap Tudwal Gloff ap Rhodri Mawr, by whom he had an only daughter and heiress, Rhiengar who succeeded to her grandfather's lands in Hereford, Gloucester, Erging and Ewias. She married Cyhelin ap Ivor ap Seferus, Lord of Buillt, Radnor, Ceri, Maelienydd, Elfael and Cydewain. By Cyhelin, she was the mother of Elystan Glodrydd, Prince of Fferllys. He was born in 927 and was named after King Athelstan who was his godfather. He was living in 1010 but slain in a civil broil in Montgomeryshire.[4]
Tangwystl was the daughter of Dyfnwal ap Alser ap Tudwal Gloff; [5]since her father died in the lifetime of Tudor Trevor, she would inherit nothing from either man under Welsh law. And Tudor Trevor did not hold any land south of Oswestry anyway. The claim that this granddaughter of Tudor Trevor inherited his lands around Hereford, Gloucester and Ewias was apparently concocted to explain why no such holdings are found among his descendants. But the mother of Tudor Trevor wasn't descended from the Caradog Freich Fras who did hold land in those areas; any land she may have inherited would have been in far north Wales. Elystan Glodrydd was born near 985/990 long after the death of King Athelstan, and likely died nearer 1050/1060. [4]
Gronwy ap GTudur Trevor who died before his father married Morvyth verch Llewelyn Aur Dorchog, Ld of Yal. [6]
Goronwy married Tangwystl, daughter of Dyfnwal ab Alan ab Alsar ab Tudwal Gloff, Prince of dyfed, fourth son of Rhoderig the Great, King of Wales. [2]
Goronwy died in the lifetime of his father, leaving issue an only daughter and heiress. [2]
Authorities agree that when Goronwy died, he "left issue an only daughter and heiress." This daughter is identified as Rhiengar by Lloyd [2] and Vaughn [3] and as Gwen by Boyer [1].
Authorities are in agreement, however, that the daughter, whether Rheingar or Gwen, married Cuhelyn ab Ivor ab Severus ab Cadifor ab Gwenwynwyn ab Idnerth ab Iorwerth Hir Flawdd ab Tegonwy ab Teon, Lord of Buallt, Maes Hyfaidd or Radnor, Ceri, Maelienydd, Elfael and Cydewen. [2] or Cuhelyn ab Ifor ap Seferws ap Cadwr ap Cadwr Wenwyn ab Idneerth ab Iorwerth Hirflawdd ap Tegonwy ap Teon ap Gwineu Deufreuddwyd ap Brwyr Lew ap Brwdeg ap Rhun Rhudd Baladr ap Llary ap Casnar Wledig. [1] or Cuhelyn ab Ivor ab Severfus, lord of Bualtt [3]
Rheingar/Gwen and her husband Cuhelyn in turn had a son Elystan Glodrhydd, Prince of Fferlis [3].
Ancestors and Descendants
GRONWY ap TUDOR:[4]
820 Rhodri Mawr ______l_______ l l 850 Cadell Tudwal Gloff 865 l l 880 Hywel Dda Alser 895 l l 900 Tudor Trevor====Angharad 915 Dyfnwal 925 l l 940 Gronwy[7]========Tangwystl 955 l 970 Gwenllian===Cuhelyn ap Ifor l 960 985 Elystan Glodrydd
Darrell Wolcott in an article on the Welsh origins of the Peverell family [8] prepared a line of descent from Tudor Trefor to Ranulph Peverell. Wolcott's purpose was to fit extant material into a coherent chronology. The extant material itself however, was to a large extent undocumented and cannot be relied on.
The line of descent is presented below, with links to the profiles involved, and documentation where available from other sources. WikiTree links between generations have been de-linked where they are not supported by other references.
Thank you to Al Adams for creating Trevor-50 on 19 Oct 13.
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