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Thomas Turner (abt. 1660 - 1743)

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Thomas Turner
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Posted by V. Darcey Slaughter, 7 Sep 2004, "Turner Family of Frederick Co ViA to Rowan Co NC," at Genforum:
Here is a section of the book I wrote several years ago on tracing the father of Thomas Turner of Rowan Co NC and Madison Co KY. The book has been quoted a lot in the Turner Forum and I thought it would be a good idea to post the full paper which deals with Thomas Turner of Frederick Co VA, Roger Turner, and Thomas Turner, son of Roger. I have already posted what I wrote on Edward Turner of Rowan Co NC and Madison Co KY. Hopefully this will be of help to others searching for these families. I would love to hear from anyone related to the Turner clan and would like to encourage any direct male descendant of this line to participate in the Turner DNA project.
HUSBAND: Thomas Turner
Born: ca 1664 possibly in Dublin, Ireland (see note on Thomas Turner born 1662)
Married: ca 1685
Died: ca 1745 in Frederick Co., Virginia
WIFE: Susannah (------)
Susannah may not be the mother of his children as none of the traceable children, Roger Turner, John Turner, nor Anthony Turner named a daughter Susannah. Usually a daughter would be named after both of the couples mothers.
1 M Roger Turner
Born: ca 1689 probably in Chester Co., Pennsylvania
Married: Elizabeth (Evan or Ellis)
Died: 1778 in Surry Co., North Carolina
2 M Robert Turner
3 M John Turner
Born: ca 1695-1705 probably in Chester Co., Pennsylvania
Married: ca 1730 to Sarah Williams probably in Virginia
Died: ca 1768 probably in Mechlenburg Co., North Carolina
4 M Anthony Turner
Born: ca 1700-1710 probably in Essex Co., Virginia
Married: 1st Sarah (------)
Married: 2nd Mary Chapline in 1741
Died: 05 May 1762 in Frederick Co., Virginia
5 F Ann Turner
Married: Mr. Sutten
6 F Sarah Turner
Married: Mr. Pickren
While searching for the father of Thomas Turner (1734), I corresponded with descendants of Roger Turner of Rowan Co. and Surry Co., North Carolina. According to family folklore, Roger Turner was born in Pennsylvania, lived for a while in Virginia, and eventually moved to Rowan Co., North Carolina. Since families tended to move together, I wondered if my Thomas Turner might be related to him. When Jo Ann Cox was searching for one of her Rowan Co., North Carolina, ancestors in Frederick Co., Virginia, she found the will of Thomas Turner. In his will he left Roger Turner 1/2 of his estate and 1/2 to Anthony Turner with five shilling bequeaths to his other children. Could this family be the one? Family folklore in my Turner family always stated that the family came from Virginia before settling in North Carolina but they were never located in Virginia.
Jo Ann Cox corresponded with Keith Littman concerning Anthony Turner, his ancestor. According to information supplied by Mr. Littman, Thomas Turner (ca 1664) lived in Frederick County, Virginia, for may years prior to 1744. In 1978, Thomas Turner, VI, still lived on the original homestead in Virginia. He told Susanne Wilson Sachs that Thomas Turner (ca 1664) came with his family, wife Susannah, sons Anthony, Robert and Roger and daughters, Sarah and Ann, with other Scotch-Irish Presbyterians in 1718 to the current home site now located in Berkley Co., West Virginia. They formed a colony in 1719 establishing the Potomoke (now Shepherdstown) Presbyterian Church. Margaret M. Hayes tried to verify this information by writing to the Presbyterian Church in 1990 but was unable to do so. The original Turner land, still in the possession of the Turner family, was know as the Turner Brothers Spring Hill Farm.
In 1721 this area was part of Spotsylvania Co., Virginia. In 1734 it became part of Orange Co. changing to Frederick Co. in 1743. In 1772 it became Berkley Co. and then in 1863 became part of the new state of West Virginia. The first land grants in the area were issued in 1734 by Lord Fairfax. Since there is no record of a land grant to Thomas Turner (ca 1664) and it is believed he obtained a "tomahawk grant". According to Thomas Turner, VI, the Colony of Virginia encouraged settlement by granting each family "Squatters' Rights" on Fifty acres of land. After the land was cultivated and a home was built, the family was entitled to fifty additional acres of land. Early settlers were escorted into the area by Indian guides and the land claim was bounded by deadened trees chopped down with a tomahawk, hence the name "tomahawk grant". It is possible Thomas Turner received his land in this manner. (research done by Susanne Wilson Sachs-The Wilson Family of Franklin Township, Des Moines County, Iowa). Thomas Turner's land contained two of the finest springs in the area and in early years water was the foremost thought when establishing a home-site. It is therefore assumed he was one of the first settlers in the area.
The family of Thomas Turner (ca 1664) is constructed from his will, church records, and other miscellaneous records.
Frederick Co., Virginia Will Book 1 page 24-26
In the name of God Amen, the 10th day of Feb., in the year of our Lord, 1743/4. I Thomas Turner in the Co. of Frederick & Colony of Virginia being very sick & weak in body but of perfect mind & memory, Thanks be given unto God, Therefore calling unto Mind the mortality of my body & knowing that it is appointed for all men to die do make & ordain this my last Will & testament that is to say principally & first of all I give & recomd. my soul into the hands of God that gave it, & for my body I recommand it to the Earth to be buried in a Christian like form at the discretion of my Ex. nothing doubting but at the General Resurection I shall receive the same again by the Mighty Power of God & as touching such worldly estate whereinwith it hath pleased God to help me in this life I give & dispose of the same in the following manner & for Imprimus
It is my Will & I do order that in the first place all my just debts & funeral charges be pd. & satisfied & 10 lbs out of my whole estate to my son Anthony Turner further it is my design to cont. with him during my life.
Item- I give to my son John Turner, five shillings.
Item- I give to my son Robert Turner, five Shillings.
Item- I give to my dau. Ann Sullen (Sutten) five shillings
Item- I give to my dau Sarah Pickren, five shillings.
Further as I said before I design to live with my son Anthony Turner during my life to be maintained out of my substance.
Item. Further it is my will & desire when what I have already mentioned is pd what is remaining to be equally Divided between my son Antony Turner & Roger Turner & likewise my son Anthony Turner I constitute make & ordain him only & Executor of this my last will & Testament all & singular my goods & chattles lands messages, tenements to his heirs & assigns forever after my decease he performing all what I have already mentioned & I do hereby disallow revoke & disannul all other former testaments Wills Lagues & Enno. by me in an ways before this time named willed & bequeathed ratifying & confirming this & no others to be my Last Will & Testament. In Wit, whereof I have hereunto set my hand the Day Year before Writte.
Theeop Norwood Thomas "TT" Turner
Robert "mark" Evins
Mathew "M" Evins
Proved in court, Frederick Co., 8 June 1744
In PIONEERS OF OLD FREDERICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA by Cecil O'Dell page 44 is reference to the Turner family. I will quote the article directly.       
       Anthony Turner Jr. (b. 1731 deposed on 13 February 1798 that "he came to Berkeley (County) with his father Anthony Turner, deceased, in 1740 when he was between eight and nine. He lived there until 1752 when he moved to New Castle (County) and made several moves before 1762 when he went to Carolina, remained there two years, returned to Virginia and in August 1765, removed to North and South Carolina, made several other moves and is now living in Berkeley (County) [Chalkley, Chronicles of the Scotch/Irish Settlement in Virginia, p 96]
       Anthony Turner Sr., his wife Mary and sons Simon and Anthony Jr. lived (at times) on 720 acres of Fairfax grant land adjoining and surrounding (except on the west side) Richard Morgan's 290-acre patent land. (Tract 24, Map 1) Anthony Sr. and Jr. were located on the south side and Simon/Simeon was on the north and east side. [Gray, Northern Neck Grants, Vol II, H-36, H-726, M-429]
       Anthony Sr.'s will was written on 18 August 1760 (proved June 1762) listing wife Mary as Executrix and guardian of the children: sons Anthony, Simeon, Reubin, Joseph, John and Thomas; daughter Sarah Sutton, Ann Turner, Rebecca, and Mary. [Frederick County, Virginia Will Book 3, page 44] His wife Mary's will was written on 4 Jun 1778 (proved 19 November 1782) listing sons Thomas, Anthony and John, grandson Anthony and daughter Mary Turner and Rebeccah Swearingen, wife of Hezekiah who was son of Van Swearingen (b. 1700 c.[Berkeley County, West Virginian Will Book 1 page 296]
       Thomas Turner, deceased in Frederick County, Virginian on 10 February 1743/4 (will proved 8 June 1744) left sons Anthony, John, Robert and Roger: daughter ann Sullen/Suten and Sara Pickken (Pickren) [Frederick County, Virginia Will Book 1, p 24] His son John was deceased by 25 March 1742 when Thomas filed suit against John Hampton. Charles Phillips, Abraham Pennington, Zebulon Cantrell and James McKee in reference to the estate of John Turner [Orange County, Virginian Court Book 1 page 114] His son Roger and his wife Elizabeth were living on 125 acres of Morgan Bryon's 40-acre patent land by 1742 Orange County, Virginian Court Book 3 page 105; Frederick County, Virginia Deed Book 1 pp 37, 271] (Tract 81, Map]
I am in disagreement with Mr. O'Dell that the son John Turner who died in 1742 was the son of Thomas Turner of Frederick Co., Virginia. 1. Thomas Turner died in 1743 and named his son John Turner to receive 1 shilling from his estate. Had John been deceased the reference would have stated heirs of son John Turner deceased or not referenced him at all if he had no heirs. 2. There was another Thomas Turner living in Orange Co., Virginia. Per ORANGE COUNTY, VIRGINIA TITHABLES 1734-1782 part 1 page 28 "A List of Tythes for the year 1752" Thomas Turner 3 tithables page 30 A List of Tithables for ye year 1753 Thomas Turner 3 tithables. Thomas Turner of Orange Co., Virginia is the more likely candidate to be the father of John Turner who died in Orange Co., Virginia. This Thomas Turner is a different man and family than that referenced in Frederick Co., Virginia.
There are many references to a Thomas Turner in the early records of Pennsylvania and Virginia. In Immigration of Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania, 1682?1750 by Albert Cook Myers, 1902 page 53 "William Penn active in Ireland, using his influence to relieve his fellow members (Quakers) from their sufferings (ca. 1669). Irish friends were among the first to whom he opened his Pennsylvania project." I believe Thomas Turner was one of these Irish immigrants. There is some documented evidence to verify this. Using Anthony Turner Sr and his son Anthony Turner Jr as corroborating evidence, I feel these references are for this Thomas Turner.
Pennsylvania Vital Records Vol 1 p 17 Quaker Marriage Cerfiticate - Henry Hollingsworth of New Castle Co., Pennsylvania, (Del) & Lidia Atkinson of Co. Ardmah, Ireland, 22nd day, 6th mo (August), 1688 at their publick meeting house at John Robson's Thomas Turner was among the witnesses.
Quaker Arrivals at Philadelphia, 1682-1750, by Myers: Thomas Turner, on a religious visit, dated 7 mo., (sept.) 24, 1697, from Quarterly Mtg. of Coxall, Essex, England, Received 5 mo 28, 1704. Not recorded.
Wm. Penn, from Two Days' Metting, by apptmt., at London, Eng., dtd 6 mo. (aug) 11, 1699 "postscript, Our dear friends Thos: Turner, Will: Ellis, Walter fossett of our Country and Tho. Chalkly are all safly Arrived some tyme since..."
There is also record of a Thomas Turner in The Welcom Claimants Proved, Disproved And Doubtful with an account of Soome of Their Descendants by George E. McCracken. Page 608-609
"Mr. Henry Hollingsworth, who possesses a copy of the records of the Friends Meeting at Lurgan, co., Armagh, Northern Ireland, has kindly supplied me with the following record of a Turner family of that meeting which may or may not pertain to that Robert Turner who came to America on the Griffin, as described above on p. 504.
Thomas Turner son of Robert Turner, of Turners towne in Northumberland (sic) in England and of Deborah his wife, was borne at Turnerstown aforesaid in the years, 1618 and about the second month ANNO DOMINI, 1652 he took to Wife, Ann the daughter of James Greer (of ye rock near Annick in Cumberland (sic), aforesaid and of mary his wife who was born at Annick aforesaid in the yeare, 1633, and had by her Children borne as followeth,
Deborah Turner first daughter of Thomas Turner and of Ann his wife was born about Eighteenth day of the eleventh month Anno Dom 1653.
Robert Turner first sonn of Thomas Turner, and of Ann his Wife was borne in England, about ye Eighteenth day of tghe Eleauenth month Anno Domini, 1655, (Was he on the Griffin?)
Mabell Turner .....1st month A.D. 1657 in England
And about ye beginning of the first month in thge years 1658, the said Thomas Turner with his wife and children (yet were liuing) came to Ireland.
John Turner.....born at Tougherraine in the Count of Downe 4 lst mo. 1660. (P. 226 has the place of birth as in Parish of Magherlin, co. Downe)
Thomas Turner....borne Drummunically Parish of Sego Co., Ardmagh 25 5th mo 1662.
James.......ditto 2 mo. 1664.. 26 2 mo 1665.
Bethiah...born at tearsoye or tearsoge (Torsoghe) Par of Shankell Co Ardmagh 20 12 mo 1667.
Mary....born Lurgan Co Armagh, beginning of ye second month A.D. 1669
Nathanniell Turner....Lurgan 18 11th mo A.D. 1673
Mr. Hollingsworth also has a copy of the 1664 Hearth Tax for Shankill and Seagoe Parishes and finds Thomas Turner had a hearth and paid 2 shillings at Drumnescally."
It is very possible that the above mentioned Thomas Turner born in 1662 is the same man who moved to America.
Carolina Cradle by Ramsey p. 84
Thomas Turner was in New Castle Co., Del in 1739.
I am not certain the above references would be for Thomas Turner of Frederick Co., Virginia, but he did have dealings in the area as well as family living there. According to Anthony Turner Jr, son of Anthony Turner Sr named above, declared in a deposition filed and recorded in Augusta Co., Virginia, records "Anthony Turner desposes: That he came into this State, now Berkeley Co., with his father, Anthony Turner, decd, on May 1740. He was then 8 yrs. Old. He lived there until fall of 1751, when he removed to New Castle Co.: removed from there Aug. 1762 to Carolinas: made frequent moves but returned to Berkeley Co., in Dec 1773. " Anthony Turner Sr. died in 1762 and his will is recorded in Frederick Co., Virginia.
As early as 1730 Anthony Turner Sr. lived in Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania. In Christ Church Parish records two of his children were baptized. Sarah Turner was baptized 22 Nov 1730 20 weeks old and Simon Turner was baptized 20 May 1736 age 14 Mos 3 wks. In 1734 Anthony Turner Sr. lived in Amity Town in Philadelphia County (Landholder lists). While living in Mahanetany Twp his son Anthony Turner was baptized 10 February 1732 (born January 21, 1732) The witnesses for the baptism were John Ellis, Thomas Turner and Susannah Turner. (Stoever Records researched by John P. Dern, obtained from Jo Ann Cox)
It is important to note that John Ellis was one of the witnesses to the baptism of Antony (Anthony) Turner Jr. The Ellis family is a link with the Turner family showing connections to the Philadelphia area of Pennsylvania, Frederick Co., Virginia, and later Rowan Co., North Carolina.
The information for the family group sheet on John Ellis is from research of Margaret Hayes verified by records found in Rowan Co NC and Frederick Co VA.
HUSBAND: John Ellis
Died: 1762 in Frederick Co VA
WIFE: Jean (------)
1 M John Ellis
Born: April 1723 probably in Pennsylvania
Baptized: 24 January 1732 in Manatawny, Pennsylvania (gives birth as November 1726)
Married: Hannah (------)
Died: 26 January 1753 in Rowan Co NC
Buried: Johnson Family Cemetery in present day Davie Co NC
2 M Evan Ellis
Born: 08 February 1726 probably in Pennsylvania
Baptized: 24 February 1732 in Manatawny, Pennsylvania (gives birth as December 1724)
Married: to Sarah (------)
Died: 22 September 1795
Buried: Joppa Cemetery near Mocksville, Davie Co., North Carolina
3 F (Unknown)
Married: Mr. Jones
In Stover records compiled by John P. Dern, Evan Ellis was recorded as being born December 1724 baptized 24 February 1732 in Manatawny, Pennsylvania. The witness to his baptism was William Richard. John Ellis was recorded as being born November 1726, baptized 24 January 1732 in Manatawny, Pennsylvania. The witnesses to his baptism were Thomas and Susannah Turner. Both boys were given as sons of John Ellis.
WILLS FROM LAND OFFICE RECORDS page 153 "John Ellis, Frederick County, 5 Dec. 1761 Sick & weak. 200 a of land where I live be Preserved for use of my Wife Jean & my Grandsire David Jones & the rest to be sold from time to time to pay my Debts. To my Son Esau Ellis 5 Shilling. To wife 3 cows & my Black Mare, & 3 year old Horse, a Yearling Colt & a Heifer. To my Grandson William Ellis son of John Ellis, dec'd 5 shillings. Son Esau to give my Granddaughter Jean Ellis, dau. of John Ellis, dec'd a Mare for the Horse he had of me. Exec: wife Jean, Grandson, David Jones, Henry Vanmetere & Abraham Vanmetere. (signed) John (X) Ellis. Wit: Robert Cockburn & Wm Langley
Execs refused to take upon themselves the execn. Administration granted Evan Ellis who entered into Bond of L500 with Simon Lender. Will proved 7 Sept. 1762
(James Keith, C of C)
[I believe Esau Ellis is really Evan Ellis, transcribed incorrectly due to the handwriting of the day. VDS]
By searching records in Rowan Co NC, it is proved that the above family moved from Frederick Co VA to Rowan County. There are many references to Evan Ellis in Rowan County records but I am only going to include those needed to prove this connection.
Abstracts of the DEEDS OF ROWAN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1785 by Jo White Linn
page 9 Deed Book 2 page 259 13 Jan 1758 William (WL) Linville & wf Elinor (TTT) to Abraham Wilson for L30 Va money, 346 A on NE side Yadkin R adj S side of sd Linville's other plantation & James Davis. Evan Ellis, David Jones. Proved Jan. Court 1758.
page 10 Deed Book 2 page 283 13 Jan 1758 William (WL) Linville & wf Ellinor (TTT) to Evan Ellis for L40 Va money, 651 A on NE side Yadkin R. adj. McKnight & Dowther. David Jones, Isaac Beeson. Prvd Jan. Court 1758.
page 15 Deed Book 2 page 195 1 Oct 1754 John Ellis of Kredwick Co., Va, to Evan Ellis for L30 Va money, livestock. Abel Walker, William Johnson. Prvd April 1756.
(the transcription is in error? the County in Virginia is Fredrick not Kredwick)
page 103 Deed Book 7 page 173 7 Apr 1769 Robert Turner Sr to Robert Turner for L50 242 A on S side Yadkin R. part of 575 A granted by Granville, Evan Ellis, Elias Turner. Prvd Nov Court 1769. (Robert Turner Sr. was a son of Roger Turner named above)
page 7 Book 1 page 12 Third Tuesday in September, 1753. Hannah Ellis Pettioned This Court for Letter of Admn. Upon the Estate of John Ellis Deceased She being the Wife and Relict of the sd John Ellis the Consideration of this Court was granted Security Proposed Edward Hughs, Esqr and William Bryant Ordred that the Secretary of the Province have Notice Thereof. The Sd Admrx Came into Open Court and Took the Oath of An Adms: in due form of Law. Ordered that Squire Boon, Nicholas Hartford, Morgan Bryant, Saml Bryanor any Three of them Appraise the Estate of the above John Ellis Deceased and that they Return an Inventory thereof Upon Oath to our next Court.
page 54 Book 2 page 114 Deed of Sale from John Ellis to Evan Ellis Prvd by William Johnston. (Rowan County Deed Book 3:195)
page 98 Book 2 page 252 20 Oct 1758 ..that Capn Evan Ellis be appointed from the Shallow ford in the Quaker Road in to the Road Leading by David Jones, that George Rankin be appointed from the North fork of Deep River to the County Line.
page 45 Book 2 page 601 12 July 1765 Ordered that Evan Ellis be appointed Guardian to Jane Ellis Dau of John Ellis decd & that he give Security in the Sum of L50 Abraham Creson & John Johnson Sec.
page 45 Book 2 page 601 12 July 1765 Ordered that Wm. Johnson be appointed Guardian to Wm Ellis son of John Ellis decd & give Security in Sum of L50 with Abraham Creson & John Johnson Securitys.
page 46 Book 2 page 606 8 Oct 1765 Ordered that Letters of Adm issue to Elizth Johnston wife & Relick of William Johnston decsd Securities Evan Ellis, James Wilson & Abram Wilson in the Sum of L300 Pro. Quallifyed. Order a Sale of the Perishable Estate & c
page 47 Book 2 page 606 8 Oct 1765 Will of James Davis prvd by David Jones & Evan Ellis With Exrs Elenor Davis, John Davis & James Davis who qualified. (A:33)
Rowan County Register Vol 1 No 2 page 63 Rowan County Guardian Bonds 4 12 July 1765 Jane Ellis, dau of John Ellis decd, chose John Ellis her guardian under L50 bond with securities Abraham Crison and John Johnston.
Ellis Cousins Newsletters Spring 1988 "Family Cemeteries in Davie Co., North Carolina" found in the Davie Co., Library in Mocksville, North Carolina, "We were shown by Dr. J. P. Clingman a few days hence, two very old graves near his residence. It is a notable fact that no one can tell (so far s we know) anything about them yet they are two of the oldest county names. The inscription upon the first is "Elvira Johnson, died Dec. 28 1754 in her 18th year."On the other, "John Ellis born April (hole in paper) 1723 and died Jan 26, 1753 (hole) Growing directly on the grave of Ellis is a (hole) poplar tree, extending from the (hole) of the grave to the foot. Two (hole) have grown almost entirely (hole) the foot stone. We measured (hole) tree 30 inches from the ground and found it to be 11 feet in circumference.
I believe Roger Turner named in the will of Thomas Turner was the same man who moved to Rowan Co., North Carolina. His family moved from Frederick Co., Virginia, to Lunenburg Co., Virginia. From there they migrated to Rowan Co., North Carolina, living in that area which later became Surry Co.
The first reference I have seen for Roger Turner is found in Frederick Co., Virginia Deed Book 1 page 37 7 Jan 1743. This is a land sale from Morgan Bryan and Martha, his wife of Frederick Co., Virginia, to Roger Turner of the same place. In Volume 11 page 373 Virginia Magazine of History & Biography Moravian Diaries Through Virginia is reference to Roger Turner. In a diary kept by the Moravians, Leonhard Schnell and Robert Hussey, "they came down the Great Wagon Road to Opeckon, on 18 Nov., 1743, crossing the Patomac at Williams' Ferry and en route to Joset Hite's "On the 19th we went to Roger Turner, who married the sister of Bro Evans and lives 10 miles from here." "On the 20th we continued our journey. Roger Turner accompanied us part of the way and showed us the right road." In 1746 Roger Turner sold his land in Frederick Co. Virginia, and moved to Lunenburg Co., Virginia.(Frederick Co., Virginia Deed Book 1 page 271 31 March 1746 Roger Turner and Elizabeth, his wife sell to Jost Dubbs of Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania.) From the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography Volume 25 page 196 "Ap 1748 Roger Turner Jr 400 acres beg at the Indian fort 3 or 4 miles above the mouth of Hatchet River on Pig River." Hatchet Run is a branch of Pigg River now located in Franklin Co., Virginia.
From Sunlight on the Southside Lists of Tithes Lunenburg County, Virginia 1748?1783 compiled by Landon C. Bell
page 81?84 a List of Tithables from the Mouth of Falling River Upwards for the Year 1748 taken by John Phelps? Rodger Turnner 1 tithe, John Turnner 1 tithe,
page 95?98 for 1749 List taken by Nicholas Haile Roger Turner and Roger Turner 2 tithes, John Turner 1 tithe.
His family group sheet is thanks to research of Marge Turner and Margaret Hayes.
HUSBAND: Roger Turner
Born: ca 1689 probably in Chester Co., Pennsylvania
Married: ca 1726
Died 1778 Surry Co., North Carolina
FATHER: Thomas Turner (ca 1664)
MOTHER: Susannah?
WIFE: Elizabeth (Evan or Ellis)
Born: ca 1705
Died: after 1782 probably in Surry Co., North Carolina
1 M Ellis (Elias) Turner
Died: 1785 Surry Co., North Carolina
2 M Thomas Turner
Born: ca 1720-30
Married First: before 1762 to Mary (Unknown)
Married Second: before 1801 to Charity Swaim
Died: after 1 Aug 1806
3 M Robert Turner
Born: ca 1729-1730
Married: ca 1772 to Rhoda (possibly Hays)
Died: ca 1781
4 M Roger Turner Jr
Born: 1728-1738
Married: before 1768 to Catherine (Unknown) (daughter of Mrs Robert Elrod from her first marriage)
Died: ca 1798 in Lexington, Fayette, Kentucky
5 F Mary Turner
Born 4 Apr 1742
Married First: ca 1760 Marmaduke Kimbrough
Married Second: John Allen
6 F Hannah Turner
The will of Roger Turner can be found in Surry Co. North Carolina
In the name of God, Amen I Roger Turner, Sr of Surry Co., in the Province of North Carolina, being in perfect mind & memory, thanks being to God for it, & calling to mind the mortality of my body & that it is appointed for all men now to die, do make & ordain this to be my last will & testament. Principally, I first of all give & recommend my soul into the hands of the almighty God that gave it to me & my body I recommend to the earth to be buried in a decent & christian like manner at the descretion of my Executor, nothing doubting but at the General Resurretion I shall receive the same again by the mighty power of God. And as counting such worldly goods as it hath pleased God to bless me with, I give, device & dispose of in manner & form following:
Item: I will & bequeath unto my beloved sons Elias & Robert Turner my tract of land adjoining to the tract of land I now live on, to be equally divided between them both & if Elias & Robert die without a lawful heir or a lawful assignment to any person of his past, then Robert is to have the whole part & hold it by virtue of the will.
I will & bequeath unto my two sons, Thomas & Roger, the sum of five shillings, such to be paid each of them by Executor & no more.
I will & bequeath unto my two daughters Hannah & Mary the sum of five shillings such to each of them to be paid by my Executor & no more.
I will & bequeath to my grandson Roger, son to Thomas, the sum of 5 lbs., such to be paid to him by my Executors when he comes to age of 21 years.
I will & bequeath unto my wife, beloved wife, Elizabeth, all my stock, both horses, cattle, sheep & hogs & at her decease to be at her own disposal, & I order that my wife, Elizabeth have free privileges of living on my Plantation her life time if she pleases & I desire my son Elias to take care of her & not let her want nor suffer.
Item: I constitute & appoint my well beloved wife Elizabeth & my beloved son Elias Executor & Executrix of this my Last will & Testament * I do hereby utterly disallow, revoke & disannul all former wills & Testaments, Legacies, Bequeaths, & Executors by me in any wise before named, willed & bequeathed, nullifying & confirming this & no other to be my Last Will & Testament.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand & seal this 2nd day of February 1775
Roger "RT" Turner
Witnesses James "X" Wilson
Jacob Speer
Evan Ellis
The next known reference to Roger Turner is in Rowan Co., North Carolina. I have included all references to Roger Turner even tho some of them are for his son Roger Turner Jr.
page 52 (II:108) 24 Jan 1756 Ordered that Roger Turner Jr serve as Constable in Room of Abraham Creson for the Succeeding Year.
page 82 (II:204) 17 Jan 1758 Ordered P Cur that Thomas Hunt serve as Constable in the Room of James Bar, that John Barten be Constable in Room of Thomas Foster, that Roger Turner Jr be Constable in the Room of John Harman. that Jos Erwin be Constable instead of John Hagan, Anthony Pealer instead of John Barnet Stagner, John Stewart instead of Thomas Miers, Joshua Nicholas instead of Withro & that James Hagan be continued. Court adjourned for 2 hrs. Met with the same Esquires present.
page 95 (II:246) 18 Oct 1758 Ordered that Sylas Enyart in Right of his wife Catherine the late wife of Thos Brinengar have Letters of Administration to the late husband decsd They giveing Security as the Law Directs Roger Turner & Adam Buttner be Securities in the Sum of L50. Sd Admrs. took the Oath directed by Law. Ordered that Catherine the wife of Sylas Enyart desed have Letters of Adm. to the Estate of Sylas Enyart afsd She giveing Security As the Law Directs Adams Burtnett & Sylas Enyart Jr. Securities in L500 Sd Adms haveing taken the Oath as by Law Directed.
page 97 (II:249) 20 Oct 1758 Thos Parker vx Jas Harper. Jury: Wm Luckey, Matt Willson, Adam Lackey, George Ren(?), Roger Turner,Jr., Jno Milkin, Isaac Holdman, Sylas Enyart, Jas Brown, David Bayley, Danl Hackett & Edwd Dicas Plntff awarded damages in amt of L11,5,0 Proc & cost.
page 100 (II:257) 18 Jan 1759 Ordered that...Henry Miller serve as Constable in the room of Roger Turner.
page 100 (II:258) 18 Jan 1759 Ordered that Jas Davis have Letters of Adms, to the Estate of his son Thos. Davis Securities Rodger Turner & Josst Hinkle in L40 Qualified According to Law.
page 108 (II:278) 18 Oct 1759 Crunk vs Pevey. Evidence: William Harrison & John Dunn. Jury: Hugh Foster, Wm Att, Daniel Boone, Joseph Bryan, Clans Thompson, Abram Creson, Roger Turner, Jno Cathey, Thos Bryan, Isaac Holdman, Wm Lettford. L7 awarded plntff
page 109 (II:279) 19 Oct 1759 Capn Morgan Bryan, Lieutenant Roger Turner & Enseyn Thomas Tryan Qualified to their Severall Commissions According to Law &c.
page 109 (II:281) 20 Oct 1759 Justices present:..Roger Turner
page 149 (II:418) 23 July 1762 Grand Jurors: ..Rogr Turner..
page 150 (II:419) 23 July 1762 The following deeds of lease & release.. Granville to Roger Turner for 204 acres 28 Feb 1755 prvd by Jas Carter (4:858?60)
page 155 (II:433) 20 Oct 1762 Deeds from Granville prvd by John Frohock as follows:..Roger Turner for 337 acres 10 Jan 1761 (5:67,68)
page 9 (II:469) 13 July 1763 On Motion it is Ordered that a Waggon Road the Best and Nearest and Best way from the Shallow ford upon the Yadkin River to the Town of Salisbury,and the following Persons are appointed to Lay of, and mark the Same, to wit:..Samuel Bryan, Morgan Bryan, James Bryan, Roger Turner, Mathew Sparks, Edward Roberts, Daniel Boon,Barnet Stagner, David Johnston, James McMahan, Robert Forbush & Thomas Turner and accordingly they appear upon Notice and be Qualified before the nearest Magistrate for their Faithful discharge of their office &c.
page 11 (II:474) 14 July 1763 Venire Appointed to Attend At the Superior Court at Salisbury on the 22d Day of Sept 1763:Wm Giles, Willis Ellis, Wm Lynn, Jas Smith, Ands Smith, Jas McCay, Jno Ford, Andw Allison, Alesr Cathey, Thos Donald, Abraham Creson, Roger Turner, Robt Forbus, Alexr, Dobbins, Jas Carson, Francis Lock, Robt Elrode, Walter Caruth, Benjn Merrill, Thos Allison, Hugh McKnight & Christopher Elrod, Court adjourned for 1/2 hr. Met with Justices Alexr Osburn, Wm Lynn, Jonathan Hunt, Morgan Bryan.
page 16 (II:487) Overseers of the Roads Apptd: Abraham Creeson Overseer of Road from Frees Ferry to the Shallowford & from thence to the Fork that comes from the Shallowford: Rodger Turner Jr. from the End of Abraham Creson District to Dutchmans Creek:...Barnet Stagner from the South River to Dutchmans Creek Baileys Ford:..)
page 36 (II:564 9 Jan 1765 Over Seers of the Roads appointed for 1765:.. Edward Williams from Huwarry to the County Line..John Dowthet from the Shallow ford to Mudy Creek:..Hance Likens from Mudy Creek to Swearing Creek..(II:565)...Wm Bryan for Roger Turners District:...Jacob Felker in Room of Barnet Stagner:..
page 58 (II:656)17 Oct 1766 Ordered that a Road be Laid Out from the Shallow Ford upon the Yadkin R to the Ford, Calld the Etkin ford, upon sd River, Jury:..Abram Crison,...Roger Turner.
page 84 (3:47)...Deed from Granville to Roger Turner for 575 acres 26 Jan 1761 (7:25)
page 95 (3:114) 8 Aug 1769 ...Bill of sale from Marmaduke Kimbrough & John Kimbrough to Roger Turner for one Female Molatto Slave Named Charity 2 May 1768 (7:130)
page 95 (3:117) Will of Marmaduke Kimbrough prvd by Oath of Samuel Mosby, Roger Turner Jr & Elias Turner are exrs.(B:159)
page 100 (3:144) 15 Nov 1769 Lease from Roger Turner to Robert Turner for 242 acres 7?8 Apr 1769 prvd by Elias Turner(7:173)
page 126 (3:294) 10 Aug 1771 King vs Isaac Loveless: Jury:...Rodger Turner.. John Roberts...
page 129 (3:309) 8 Nov 1771 Claims for the year 1771 amount to L85.9.15 with claimants:..Rodger Turner..
page 147 (4:10) 4 Feb 1773 ...On Petition a road is to be laid out from Shallow Ford to Wm Morrisons Mill on Third Creek & jury to do it is Roger Turner...Isaac Holman...
No entries for Roger Turner as the portion of Rowan County in which he lived was cut off to form Surry County, North Carolina.
Abstracts of WILLS AND ESTATES RECORDS of ROWAN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1805 and TAX LISTS of 1759 and 1778 by Jo White Linn
page 29 (B:159) Marmaduke Kimbrough. 22 Oct 1768 no prb date. Wife, Mary. Son John to have the land called Uwharry where he now lives and negroes Matt, Dick, Bob, Reubin, Dave, Absalom, Moss, Jane, Lett, Amy and Lett's child Ida. Son Orman to have the land called the shallow ford where I now live. He asks that the land bought from Thomas Bryon and Thomas Turner be sold and the money divided among sons George and Golman Kimbrough and dau., Anna Kimbrough who are to share in negroes Dick, Sam, Ceasar, Hannah, and Rachel with son Orman. Exrs: Roger Turner Jr and Elias Turner. Wit Samuel Mosby, Elias Turner, James Forbes.
page 117 1759 Rowan Co., Tax List Edward Turner?1 Roger Turner Jr?1 Thomas Turner?1
Abstracts of the DEEDS of ROWAN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1785 by Jo White Linn
page 32 (4:403) 20 Mar 1758 Peter Dilts to John Howard for L50 Va money, 22 A on W side Yadkin R Granted by Granvill to John Thomas 27 Nov 1753. Edwd Hughes, Roger Turner, Jr., Prvd Apr. Court 1761
page 41 (4:737) 20 July 1762 Edmond Johnston to John Howard for L26 proc. 360 A on S fork Joseph's Crk. Roger Turner,Edwd Hughes. Prvd July Court 1762.
page 44 (4:858) 28 Feb 1755 Granville to Roger Turner Sr for 10 sh sterl 204 A adj the land where he now lives. James Carter, Richd Vigers. Prvd July Court 1762.
page 49 (5:67) 8 Jan 1762 Granville to Roger Turner, Jr., for 10 sh proc., 337 A on Turner's Crk. W. Lucas, W. Churton.Prvd Oct. Court 1762.
page 80 (6:234) 1 June 1756 Nathaniel (N) Wiltshire to Marmaduke Kimbrough for L50 proc., 333 A that Sarah Pincher sold John Pelham on Yadkin R adj Edwd Hughes. Roger Turner, Elias Turner, Elias Turner. Prvd Oct Ct. 1765.
page 90 (6:486) 28 July 1767. Marmaduke Kimbrough & wf Mary(M) to James Glen for L100 proc., 330 A on S side Yadkin R Adj Edwd Hughes, granted Sarah Pincher 7 Dec 1753, sold to John Pelham who sold it to Nathaniel Wiltshire from whom Kimbrough bought it. Tyree Glen, Abraham Creson, Roger Turner. Prvd Oct. 1767
page 96 (7:25) 26 Jan 1761 Granville to Roger Turner Sr. for 10 sh Sterl, 575 A on N bank Yadkin R below Turner's Crk, Wm Lucas, W. Churton, Prvd Oct. Court 1768.
page 101 (7:130) 10 Feb 1769 Mar. Duke Kimbrough & wf Mary (M) to John Kimbrough for L100 proc, 325 A on the Uwharrie R. Roger Turner, Jr., Elias Turner. Prvd Aug. Court 1769.
page 101 (7:136) 7 Apr 1769. Roger Turner Sr to Elias Turner for L50, 333A on S side Yadkin R below mouth of Turners Crk, part of 515 A granted by Granville. James Forbis, Robert Turner. Prvd Aug. Court 1769.
page 103 (7:173) 7 Apr 1769. Roger Turner Sr. to Robert Turner for L50, 252 A on S side Yadkin R, part of 575 A granted by Granville. Evan Ellis, Elias Turner. Prvd Nov.Court 1769.
page 8, 9 February 1779, Inventory Estate, Roger Turner, deceased, returned by Elias Turner, Exexr.
There are other references to Roger Turner but they would be for his son Roger Turner since dated after 1779.
Elias Turner son of Roger Turner was a Tory during the Revolutionary War. His will is recorded in Surry County, North Carolina Will Book 2 page 58 will dated 6 May 1769 proved Feb Court 1785 Rowan. Bequest to Bro Robert Turner - all his lands after the death of his mother and father, also his negro boy George. Executor brother Robert Turner Witnesses Evan Ellis, Sarah Ellis, Jane Ellis.
Note the Ellis family again. I have relied heavily on tracing other families who lived in the same area as my ancestors in order to prove who they were and where they came from.
Robert Turner was a Tory in the Revolutionary War (a Captain from February 1776 to October 1778). His land was confiscated and later returned to his widow.
North Carolina Loyalists
A State of Pay Issued to the North Carolina Officers by Order of Gov. Josiah Martin, agreeable to the Regulations of Sir Wm. Howe, KB, ets., pd in NY
#39 Captain Robert Turner, 995 days 5 Feb 1776 - 27 Oct 1778
Roger Turner Jr was also a Tory in the Revolutionary War (a Captain from June 1780 to July 1782).
Loyalists in North Carolina by De Mond page 231
This is to Sartify that Roger Turner Served as a Capt of the Melisa in My Ridgment For the above mensaned time
Samuel Bryan Coln. N. Car.
Colo. Gray will please pay Roger Turner for his Service as represented.
After finding Roger Turner with a son named Thomas Turner, I wondered if he might be my Thomas Turner. From records of Rowan Co., Surry Co., and Wilkes Co., North Carolina, I was able to eliminate him.
The first known residence of a Thomas Turner in Rowan Co., North Carolina, is in 1759 when he appears on a partial Rowan Co., North Carolina, tax list. By 1761 there were two Thomas Turners living in Rowan County, North Carolina. How long they had been in the area is unknown. In 1760 Thomas Turner received a land grant in Rowan Co., North Carolina. I believe this to be the son of Roger Turner because of the other parties involved in the grant. In 1768 Thomas Turner and his wife Mary sold this land to Marmaduke Kimbrough. Marmaduke Kimbrough was married to Mary Turner, sister of Thomas Turner.
Information on Thomas Turner son of Roger Turner was supplied by Marge Turner and Margaret Hayes.
HUSBAND: Thomas Turner
Born: ca 1731 probably in Frederick Co., Virginia or Chester Co., PA
Married: 1st ca 1755
Married: 2nd before
Died: after 1 August 1806
FATHER: Roger Turner
MOTHER: Elizabeth (Evan or Ellis)
Born: ca 1734
1 M Roger Turner
Born: ca 1757 in Rowan Co., North Carolina
Married: 17 November 1779 to Sarah Speed in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, Stephen Harris,bm. MARRIAGES OF WILKES COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1778-1868 page 187
Died: ca 1846 in Breathitt Co., Kentucky
2 M Edward Turner
Born: ca 1761 in Rowan Co., North Carolina
Married: 27 September 1782 to Louvicey Kelly in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, Thomas Turner bm. MARRIAGES OF WILKES COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1778-1868 page 187
3 M John Turner
Born: ca 1763 in Rowan Co., North Carolina
4 F Jane Turner
Born: ca 1766 (between 1755?1768) in Rowan Co., North Carolina
Married: 29 April 1782 to Reuben Robbins in Wilkes Co., North Carolina, Edward Turner bm. MARRIAGES OF WILKES COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1778-1868 page 161
5 M Thomas Turner Jr
Born: ca 1760?1770
6 M Abraham Turner
Born: ca 1763?1774
I am sure there were other children but their names are not known as no will has been found for Thomas Turner. There are many references to Thomas Turner in Rowan Co., North Carolina, records. I am only including those references believed to belong to the above Thomas Turner.
Abstracts of the DEEDS of ROWAN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1785 by Jo White Linn
page 27 (4:205) 21 Sept 1759. Granville to Abraham Creson for 10 sh sterl, 604 A on W side Yadkin R on both sides Deep Crk adj Edward Hughes, George Forbus, Tho. Turner, Henry Skidmore. Tho: Jones, Thomas Gilespie, Prvd Oct. Court 1759.
page 41 (4: 731) 24 Apr. 1762. Benjamin Milner sheriff to Abraham Cresn for L8.7.3 proc, 200 A below the mouth of Deep Crk adj Edward Hughes & Thomas Turner, recovered against William Montgomery 22 Jan. 1752 in Inferior Court of Pleas & QS. John Frohock, John Hagin. Prvd July Court 1762.
page 96 (7: 27) 29 Dec 1760 Granville to Thomas Turner for 10 sh sterl,383 A on SW side Yadkin R adj Abraham Cresson. W. Churton, W. Lucas. Prvd Oct. Court 1768
page 101 (7: 137) 4 Mar. 1768 Thomas Turner & wf Mary (8) to Marmaduke Kimbrough for L150 proc. 383 A on SW side Yadkin R Adj Abram Cresson. Charles Burton, Elias Turner, Prvd Aug. Court 1769
page 84 (3:47) 18 Oct. 1768 ...Deed from Granville to Thos Turner for 383 acres 20 Dec. 1760 (7:27)
page 95 (3:114) 8 Aug 1769...Deed from Thomas Turner & wf to Marmaduke Kimbrough for 383 acres 4 Mar. 1768 prvd by Elias Turner (7:131)
Abstracts of WILLS AND ESTATES RECORDS of ROWAN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1805 and TAX LISTS of 1759 and 1778 by Jo White Linn
page 29 (B:159) Marmaduke Kimbrough. 22 Oct 1768 no prb date. Wife,Mary. Son John to have the land called Uwharry where he now lives and negroes Matt, Dick, Bob, Reubin, Dave, Absalom, Moss, Jane, Lett, Amy and Lett's child Ida. Son Orman to have the land called the shallow ford where I now live. He asks that the land bought from Thomas Bryon and Thomas Turner be sold and the money divided among sons George and Golman Kimbrough and dau., Anna Kimbrough who are to share in negroes Dick, Sam, Ceasar, Hannah, and Rachel with son Orman. Exrs: Roger Turner Jr and Elias Turner. Wit Samuel Mosby, Elias Turner, James Forbes.
Thomas Turner (of Wilkes County, N.C.). On the 19th March 1778 land was entered on the Yadkin River including improvement where Thomas TURNER claimed (Entry #40); 16 December 1778, Thomas TURNER entered 140 acres land both sides north fork Roaring River including the imporvement (Entry #586); 24 February 1779 Robert TURNER (son Thomas) entered 100 acres middle fork Roaring River (Entry #873: Wilkes County Land Entry Book 1778-1781).
On the 29 July 1782, Roger TURNER bought 292 acres land on middle fork of Roaring River (Deed Book A-1, page 552)' 10 December 1797 Thomas TURNER received a State Grant for 86 acres on little Camp Creek below Reubin SPARKS adjoining George WHEATLEY (Deed Book C-1, page 283); 6 December 1799 Robert TURNER received a State Grant for 100 acres Hall's fork Roaring River, adjoining John MORGAN and Mason WHEATLEY (Deed Book C-1, page 187; 13 August 1805 Thomas TURNER sold 30 acres beginning at the River. Edward TURNER was a witness (Deed Book F-1., page 268); 1 August 1806 Thomas Turner deeded his grandson, Timothy TURNER, son of Abraham TURNER, 70 acres land on north fork of Roaring River whereon Thomas TURNER formerly lived (Deed Book F-1, page 326); 3 September 1809 Thomas & Roger TURNER witnessed a deed for land on Camp Branch water of Roaring River (Deed Book G-H, page 59)
Thomas TURNER was in Capt. William REYNOLDS District in 1782 with 140 acres land, 4 horses, 3head cattle: Edward TURNER listed 100 acres land, 2 horses. In 1784 Thomas TURNER (Sr.) listed 140 acres, 1 poll and continued the same through 1878. In 1788 he listed 140 acres, 0polls and continues listing land but no polls through 1805. Edward TURNER (son Thomas) listed only a poll in 1784, 1787, 1788, and 1793. In 1795 he listed 86 acres, 1 poll and is listed no more. Roger Turner (son Thomas) listed 300 acres land, 1 poll 1784-1786. In 1787-1799 he listed land and 1 poll but is not on the 1805 list. John Turner (possibly son of Thomas) began listing poll tax in 1785. He paid on land a few years, a poll each year through 1794 and appears no more. Thomas TURNER Junr. (son Thomas) listed 80 acres, 1 poll in 1788 and does not appear again. In 1805 Thomas & Edward TURNER (sons of Roger TURNER) were listed with a poll each. (1782 Tax List, State Archives: 1784-1799 Taxables, Wm. LENOIR Family Papers, UNC Library, Chapel Hill, N.C.).
On the 2 March Thomas TURNER was one of the bondsmen for Richard ALLEN'S Sheriff's Bond (Wilkes Will Book 1, page 11)
Edward TURNER married 27 September 1782 Louvicy KELLEY, Thomas TURNER, bondsman (page 247); Edward TURNER married 18 May 1805 Sally BUTRY, David MAIS, bondsman (page 247); Roger TURNER married 17 November 1779 Sarah SPEED, Stephen HARRIS, bondsman (page 247); Jane TURNER married 29 April 1782 Reuben ROBINS, Edward TURNER, bondsman (page 213); Jeane TURNER married 27 May 1809 Samuel SPEER, Henry BAUGUSS, bondsman (page 230: typescripts Wilkes Marriage Bonds compiled by LDS).

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On 9 Aug 2017 at 20:55 GMT Katharine (Mounger) Jones wrote:

Turner-18784 and Turner-960 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth date and location, same spouse (different spelling) same child.

On 3 Aug 2015 at 16:46 GMT Gregory Rose wrote:

Turner-5306 and Turner-1675 appear to represent the same person because: Relative dates for him and his child.

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