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Avis (Turtley) Carter (abt. 1605 - 1629)

Avis Carter formerly Turtley aka Purtley
Born about in London, Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1629 in James City County, Virginiamap
[children unknown]
Died in Surry County, Virginia Colonymap
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Avis (Turtley) Carter resided in the Southern Colonies in North America before 1776.
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Contents

Biography

Avis Purtley AKA Turtley, Thurtley

Birth date 1605 is a guess, based on the possible birth date of her husband, 1600.

Avis married, as his 1st, to William Carter.[1] William's three wives are recorded on a land patent in James City County, Virginia, in which William received land in return for their transportation.[1] William's first son, William, Jr., was the son of one of the first two wives, Avis Turtley or Ann Mathis.

Possible Child of Avis and William:[1][2]

  1. William Jr., was born about 1634 or 1635, was the son of one of the first two wives; mar Elizabeth Pettaway . Elizabeth married Edward Petway after William's death her last name at birth is unknown.

Some researchers contend that another of William's children was Thomas Carter of Nasemond, but there is no evidence for this.[3]

Research Notes

Project Maintenance

Needs Merge Attention-- The information below are remnants from past merges have have never been reconciled. Profile needs an overhaul to develop a single integrated narrative biography.

Additional data from previous merges:

  • Harriet Larsen

"Genealogies of VA Families" by John Boddie V.1 Surry Will BK 4, pg. 240, and Bk. 5 pp. 186, 275 (Robert) "Colonial Surry" by John Boddie Surry Order Bk. 1, pg. 235 (William)


ORIGINAL BIO FOR ANNIS (~ by Bree Ogle):

alias: Annis / Anise / Avis Valentine (d. before 1624/25)[4][5][6]

Both Annis and Margrett are listed as Thomas Gray's 1st wife, and mother of Jone and William (Boddie, 2009). Dorman (2004) disputes this. He lists Margrett as the 2nd wife, and states that Annis is the first wife who had Jone and William. So sources are unclear as to whether they are the same woman.

The two authors also differ as to where the marriage of Annis and Thomas took place. Boddie (2009), states that Thomas married his first wife in Virginia, while Dorman (2004), claims St. Peter Pauls Wharf in London.

There is a certificate of marriage for the latter claim at FamilySearch,[7] but Dorman (2004), does not explain, nor properly cite, how he arrived at the conclusion that Annis' last name is Valentine. This is suspect, since no such claim is put forth by Nugent (1934), in his republishing of Thomas Gray's deed, dated 27 August 1635. And more importantly ... the idea that the wedding took place in London during 1611 is highly impractical if Thomas Gray landed in Colonial America during 1608.[8]

Marriage

m. Thomas Gray[4] Issue: at least 2[9]

  • (disputed) William (b.1622 - d. young)[4][5]

SPECULATION FROM GEDCOM MERGE:

Death: MIght be her???? -- DEC 1623 Bidstone, Cheshire, England[11]

Burial: DEC 1623 Bidstone, Cheshire, England[11]

Marriage: 29 MAR 1611 Saint Peter Pauls Wharf, London[12]

Husband: Thomas Gray

Child: Joan Gray


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Stanard, W. G., (1987). Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents. The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, 5(2), pp. 211-214. Virginia Historical Society. JSTOR. Retrieved September 10, 2014.[1]
  2. Lucas, John "John Lucas of Eastern North Carolina Descendants and Related Families: William Carter, Sr.", citing Carters of Virginia by Noel Currer-Briggs, 1979, Phillimore Publishing Company, page 12-13, RootsWeb post July 18, 2014, accessed May 23, 2015
  3. Mathys, Mary Sue, "One Branch of a Colonial Carter Family in Virginia." (Vol 30, Page 117) The Virginia Genealogist. Washington, DC: J. F. Dorman, 1957 - 2006. (Online database accessed September 25, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009.)
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Dorman, 2004
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Boddie, 2009
  6. Liisa Small.
  7. "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch: accessed 1 June 2015), Thomas Graye Or Gray and Annes Valentine Or Vallentine, 29 Mar 1611; citing Saint Peter Pauls Wharf,London,London,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 547,508.
  8. Boddie, 1966; McCartney, 2007
  9. See Thomas Gray's profile
  10. McCartney, 2007
  11. 11.0 11.1 England, Select Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900. Ancestry.com 2014.
  12. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973. Ancestry.com 2014

See also:

  • Boddie, J.B. (2009). Virginia Historical Genealogies, (pp. 309). Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Inc. Google Books.
  • Dorman, J.F. (2004). Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1624/5: Families G-P, (pp.1982). Google Books.
  • McCartney, M.W. (2007). Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary, (pp.338-339). Google Books
  • Nugent, N.M. (1934). Cavaliers and pioneers; abstracts of Virginia land patents and grants, 1623-1800, (Vol. 1, pp.31). Richmond, VA: The Dietz Printing Co. archive.org.
  • Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.


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Some sources/information for Avis:

In 1629 William' Carter's unnamed wife (believed to be Avis) was required to apologize for calling another woman a "hoore." The woman was described as Avis' "cousin Gray's wife." (Minutes of the Council and General Court of Virginia, 1629 https://archive.org/details/minutesofcouncil00virg/page/196/mode/2up?q=Hoore ).

In 1636 William received a grant of land. Hard to read but the original land grant is imaged at the Library of Virginia. It lists by name all three of William Carter's wives, Avis Turtley, Ann Mathis, and Alice Croxson. It's abstracted in Cavaliers and Pioneers, Patent Book 1, p. 42

William received a grant of land in 1638 for the transport of 20 persons, including Avis Turtley. (Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Patent Book 1, Part II, p. 91).

posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Hi Profile manager: Deborah, Please note there is a Suggestion that needs your attention please.

https://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTStatus/Status.htm?ErrID=866&UserID1=11891111&UserID2=0

posted by Paula (Hawkins) Reinke
Oh wow! This is one of the rare profiles I've come across that talk about a historical cat fight. Love it! Can't wait til Southern Colonies finishes this one. I will read!
posted by [Living Ogle]
The "Free Space" Profile page, for Avis (Turtley) Carter, has been created. Please contact Trudy Roach to add or discuss any research for Avis Carter.

Thks Drew.

posted by [Living McClenaghan]
Turtley-2 and Valentine-204 appear to represent the same person because: Could we merge these please. I can source Her as first husband Thomas Gray and second husband William Carter Carter-4290. I can do the merge clean up. Thank You
posted by Anonymous Roach
She maybe Avis Turtley. Turtley-2 married Carter- 4290, please check it out statement and a source on Turtley-2. I'd like to merge this one and add Thomas Gray to Turtley -2. I have found duplicates for Thomas also. We can talk after you check it out thanks.
posted by Anonymous Roach
Turtley-3 and Turtley-2 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate Family, please merge.
posted by Phillip Rich
Unmerged match with Turtley-1

These certainly represent the same person. Issue is the spelling of her last name at birth. Will leave it up to the managers to decide which is best. Have seen both used in references.

Thanks!

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Valentine-204 and Valentine-896 appear to represent the same person because: similar name, same spouse, same time frame, same locations, Thomas married Margaret around 1618, death date uncertain, separate?

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