Andrew Turvey
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Andrew Turvey

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Andrew Turvey
Born 1970s.
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Biography

I have been researching my family tree since about 1985 - and things have changed enormously since then! At first, I had a few hundred names, mostly derived from conversations with great aunts and uncles and family bibles that had been passed down the generations.

I restarted my research in 2009, when my first child was born. Initially I wanted to create a printed family tree as a keepsake, but I quickly discovered the power of the internet, in particular the digitised census records on ancestry and the various pedigrees online. In a short timescale I quickly expanded my tree into over 5,000 names.

Having been an active contributor to Wikipedia since 2005, it made sense for me to join a free wiki, so I chose the then-largest one, WeRelate. [1] I have been active there ever since, expanding my genealogical work beyond my own family to also cover a "surname study" for my own surname, Turvey, and my mother's surname, Tulloch. [2][3][4] I have also managed to link my mother's ancestry to scottish noble families and, through them, to scottish royalty and most of the royalty of europe. So my family tree now tops more than 10,000 people!

In 2016 I started using WikiTree. The main drivers are the apparent financial problems on WeRelate, accompanied by a growth rate that has ground to a halt and a lack of development.

My experience of WikiTree (so far) is largely positive:
- the size is significantly larger, and this has already meant I have had many more family connections than on WeRelate - comparable to my experience of Ancestry
- the approach to older genealogy is more nuanced than the blanket prohibition on WeRelate, albeit there are significant quality complaints on both
- there is the same desire for quality genealogy, but WikiTree seems to have more positive ways to achieve this
- the manual entry is easier, in particular avoiding the unwelcome "family" type between individuals
- they have found a good solution for including living people but showing them with degrees of privacy. It also means they can merge the "User" and "Person" namespaces (which are separate on werelate), which has significant benefits

The downsides are - so far - manageable, although I'll have to see whether they become more of a problem as time progresses:
- it's still too difficult for the average genealogist to get involved, I think, and much harder than commercial equivalents. That will - at some stage - limit its development potential
- WikiTree X was a fantastic tool, but it stopped working one day for me and my repeated messages on that have fallen on deaf ears
- Perhaps reflecting this, it seems much harder compared to other wiki communities (wikipedia, werelate) to make suggestions and get a hearing. Partly I imagine this reflects the commercially-owned status.
- The community in turns seems much more hierarchical. Users are told they must collaborate with projects on pre-1700 profiles (which I dutifully do with zero benefit). Project leaders set conditions which members have to fulfil to join and then arrogate rights to control certain profiles. Does this result in a better quality website? Perhaps, but I find it quite tiresome myself.

I am looking forward to my time on this site and hopefully the overall good experiences will continue!

My Ancestors Research Statistics

Many thanks to SJ Baty for providing the template, and to the developers of the Ancestor Explorer App:

My Ancestors Research Statistics
BY GENERATION
Gen. No. Relation to me Total Possible Profiles On Wikitree Sourced Biography Genealogically Defined
1Self11tbctbctbc
2Parent22tbctbctbc
3Grandparent44tbctbctbc
4Great Grandparent88tbctbctbc
52nd Great Grandparent1616tbctbctbc
63rd Great Grandparent3231 (97%)tbctbctbc
74th Great Grandparent6437 (58%) tbctbctbc
85th Great Grandparent12845 (35%)tbctbctbc
96th Great Grandparent25635 (14%) tbctbctbc
107th Great Grandparent512 33 (6%) tbctbctbc
118th Great Grandparent1024 19 (2%) tbctbctbc
129th Great Grandparent2048 6 (0.3%) tbctbctbc
1310th Great Grandparent4096 8 tbctbctbc
1411th Great Grandparent9192 10 tbctbctbc
1512th Great Grandparent18,384 7 tbctbctbc
1613th Great Grandparent36,768 5 tbctbctbc
1714th Great Grandparent73k 5 tbctbctbc
1815th Great Grandparent146k 9 tbctbctbc
1916th Great Grandparent292k 10 tbctbctbc
2017th Great Grandparent584k 17 tbctbctbc
2118th Great Grandparent1.17m 24 tbctbctbc
2219th Great Grandparent2.34m 35 tbctbctbc
2320th Great Grandparent4.68m 48 tbctbctbc

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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Andrew or other carriers of his ancestors' Y-chromosome or mitochondrial DNA. Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
  • Andrew Turvey: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 838 markers, haplogroup I1, FTDNA kit #IN102286
Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • Andrew Turvey: Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test, haplogroup H1, FTDNA kit #IN102286
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Andrew:
  • 100.00% X DNA 100.00% Andrew Turvey: Family Tree DNA Family Finder, FTDNA kit #IN102286

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Andrew,

This week through Thursday 23 June, the WikiTree Challenge is building out the tree of sci-fi/fantasy author Lois McMaster Bujold. We would be thrilled to have some help from the Norfolk team on this branch of Lois' family tree - do you know of anyone who might have some time to pitch in?

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Parker-Family-Tree-28339

Best regards,

Karen Lowe, WikiTree Challenge team captain

posted by Karen Lowe
That sounds interesting Karen. Yes a few interesting lines there. I'll see what I can do to contribute.
posted by Andrew Turvey
Hi Andrew,

On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!

The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.

I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.

Many thanks!

Ian, England Project Leader

posted by I. Speed
Hi Ian,

How do I see which teams I am a member of?

posted by Andrew Turvey
Hi Andrew, according to my list, you are in one team -- the Norfolk Team.

Ian.

posted by I. Speed
Hi Ian,

Thanks for clarifying. Yes I'd love to continue with the Norfolk Team - I have a few ancestral lines in that county so would like to develop the county side of my research and collaborate with others there. I also have ancestors in London, Gloucestershire and Northamptonshire, so happy to help out with those any of those counties if they have any specific areas they want help with. Andrew

posted by Andrew Turvey
Thanks Andrew. Thanks again for being part of the England Project!

Ian

posted by I. Speed
Hi Andrew I know this is a long shot but my best friend Kathy is searching for her Grandfather's death certificate or grave site in Norfolk. Robert Grandson Ducker was born May 22nd 1890 in Swanton Novers, Norfolk England, his parents were George Edward and May Elizabeth Ducke. At one point early on they lived t 39 Giles Road, Swanto Novers Walsinham Norfolk in 1891. He lived most of his life in Canada and had a family. He then separated from Kathy's grandmother and went back to England where shortly after his arrival he died. Kathy never knew him but she is anxious to find out what he died of and where he was buried. He was in a hospital that was converted from a poor house, so he could be in a paupers grave and we may never find him. I have looked extensively myself but with no luck but am not really great at this. If you could have a look for us and see what you could find we would really appreciate it since you are familiar with the area now and know where to look. We have an address to send a letter to the Norfolk council to see if they have records but will do that as a last resort. ty. Janice and Kathy
posted by Janice (Pratt) Moore
Hi Janice,

It looks like Robert's parents - George Edward and May Elizabeth Ducker - are on wikitree here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ducker-333 & https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bullen-1068, along with his younger sister Lucy. Nathan Sloan (your friend's distant cousin) is the profile manager on wikitree and if you contact him directly he may have more information about their family.

Robert is on FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LWH7-C8L) but without a huge amount of detail.

Searching FreeBMD for Deaths of people born 1889-1891 shows only Robert D. Ducker who died in Norfolk in 1949 aged 58:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:QVHB-VH8B

This is likely to be someone else - Robert Dye Ducker - https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KKQJ-SK8

Do you know what year he returned to England?

posted by Andrew Turvey
edited by Andrew Turvey
Thank you so much Andrew for your help, we are getting closer and closer. I just hope we hear back from Jason as they are definitely cousins removed. Janice and Kathy
posted by Janice (Pratt) Moore

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