Alice (Unknown) FitzRoger (1348 - 1426)

Born 1348 in Somerset, England

Wife of John FitzRoger — married before 26 Apr 1369 in England

Descendants

Died 27 Mar 1426 at about age 78 in England

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Biography

Alice married John FitzRoger, son of Sir Henry FitzRoger and Elizabeth de Holand, before 26 April 1369.

They had 1 daughter, Elizabeth.

Alice married Sir Edmund de Clyvedon between 1371 and 1372.

Alice married Sir Ralph Carminow,^[1] son of Sir Walter Carminow and Alice Tynton, before 18 November 1383.

Alice married Sir John Rodney, Sheriff of Somerset & Dorset, son of Walter Rodney and Dorothy St. John, before 27 January 1389.

Alice married Sir William Bonville,^[2] son of Nicholas Bonville and Johanna Champernon, before 6 June 1402.

Alice died on 27 March 1426.^[1][2] She requested burial in the nave of the church of Newnham Monastery beside her 5th husband.

Her heir was her grand son William.^[1][2]

Alice outlived five husbands:

• John Fitzroger, one daughter - Elizabeth Fitzroger
• Sir Edmund Clevedon
• Sir Ralph Carminowe 1383-1386, one daughter - Alice Carminowe who married the son (from an earlier marriage) of her mother's last husband, William Bonville
• Sir John Rodney
• Sir William Bonville

^[3]

The peerage gives her first daughter, Elizabeth's details as follows: "Elizabeth FitzRoger was born in 1370. She was the daughter of John FitzRoger and Alice Cheddar.She married John Bonville, son of Sir William Bonville and Alice (?). She married Richard Stuckley, son of John Styeucle and Agnes (?). She died on 18 April 1414"^[4] It cites The Complete Peerage as its source ^[5]

Magna Carta Ancestry^[6] says that she married John FitzRoger before the 26 April 1369 (therefore her birth date must be before 1354). It goes on to say that her second husband was Edmond de Clyvedon, Sherrif of Somerset and Dorset, son of John de Clyvedon of Clyvedon, Somerset. They had no children. Edmund died 16 January 1375/6. Alice then married Ralph Carminowe some time before 18 November 1383 but with a will dated 1 January 1887. She then married Sir John Rodney who died 19 December 1400. Before 6 June 1402 she married Sir William Bonville. She was his second wife. Sir William died 11 February 1408 with a will dated 14 August 1407. Alice finally died 17 March 1426. She was buried at Newnham Abbey. Devon.

Her daughter by Ralph Carminowe, Alice, is mentioned in Ralph's Will ^[7] "to Alice my daughter, ten marks".

The Calendar of Rolls ^[8] relays how she had a child, Elizabeth, by FitzRoger. That she married Ralph Carminowe and her daughter Elizabeth married John Boneville

While the Peerage and a number of online pedigrees refer to her as Alice Cheddar the surname may come from Katherine Cheddar who some believe to have been the first wife of Sir John Rodney. Katherine is thought to have been the daughter of Robert Cheddar of Bristol, possibly^[9] However, complicating things still further, Egerton Brydges believes Katherine was the wife of Sir John Rodney's father Thomas^[10]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} King's College London, 2014. | Mapping the Medieval Countryside [online]. Available at http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/view/inquisition/22-606/ [Accessed: 11/10/2020] Inquisition Post Mortem for Alice widow of Ralph Carmynowe, chevalier 1426
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} King's College London, 2014. | Mapping the Medieval Countryside [online]. Available at http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/view/inquisition/22-620/ [Accessed: 11/10/2020] Alice widow of William Bonevile, chevalier 1426
3. ↑ History of Parliament Online: CARMINOWE, Sir Ralph (bef.1339-1386), of Carminowe and Boconnoc, Cornwall. [1]
4. ↑ The Peerage, entry of Elizabeth FitzRoger [2]
5. ↑ Cokayne, G.E., "The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, (2000)
6. ↑ Richardson, Douglas, "Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families", 2nd Edition, (2011, page 235)
7. ↑ Orme, Nicholas, "Cornish Wills, 1342-1540, Volume 50" Devon and Cornwall Record Society, (2007)
8. ↑ "Calendar of the Close Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office, Volume 3", H.M. Stationery Office, (1921), page 179
9. ↑ RODNEY, Sir John (d.1400), of Backwell and Rodney Stoke, Som. [3]
10. ↑ Brydges, Egerton, "Peerage of England" (1812), p556

• Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, 1st edn., p. 126-7.

See also

• Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 329;
• Weis, Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, p. 230.

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Five Marriages

After the death of John FitzRoger, (d.1370–2), Alice, married secondly Sir Edmund de Clyvedon (d. 16 January 1376), of Clevedon, Somerset, by whom she had no issue; thirdly, Sir Ralph Carminow (d.1386/7), by whom she had a daughter, Alice Carminow; fourthly, Sir John Rodney (d. 19 December 1400), by whom she had no issue; and fifthly, Sir William Bonville (c.1332 – February 1408) of Shute, son and heir of Sir Nicholas de Bonville of Shute by Joan Champernoun, daughter of Henry de Champernoun.

Alice died 27 December 1426, and was buried at Newenham Abbey, Devon, beside her fifth husband.