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Catherine (Unknown) Deer (abt. 1716 - abt. 1782)

Catherine Deer formerly [surname unknown] aka Baumgardner
Born about in Germanymap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] in Schwaigern, Wuerttemberg, Germanymap
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 66 in Madison County, Virginia, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Profile last modified | Created 19 Feb 2009
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Johann Friedrich Baumgärtner aka Frederick Bumgarner named son Joel in his will (Orange County, Virginia Will Book 2: 94). Frederick's wife was named Catherine as evidenced in lawsuit (Orange County, Virginia Order Book 4: 280.). Catherine was also supposed to have been granted administration of Frederick's will from the will book (Ardys V. Hurt, "Johann Frederick Baumgardner," Beyond Germanna, 1, no. 5, (September 1989): 41-43).

Son Joel Bumgarner named his mother as Catron Deer in his will (Culpeper County, Virginia Will Book B: 111). (Catron is a variant spelling of Catharine - Not a surname as suggested by some)

Will of Frederick Baumgartner

Page 94. [Will of Frederick Bumgardner], dated 8 Sept. 1745.

The 400 acres of land which is had in possession when I lived shall be equally divided among my four sons Adam, George, Frederick and Joel so that each of them shall have 100 acres.

My daughter Dorothy shall have a share of the 400 acres for which my son shall pay to her the money according to the land shall be judged to be worth. (signed) Frederick Bumgardner.

Wit: Dicknik Weaver (T), Tobias [sic], John Willhoit (J). 27 Feb. 1745 [1746].

Proved by Titer Weaver and John Wilheit.

On motion of Catharine Bumgardner certificate is granted for her administration, with Teter Weaver and John Wilheir her securities.

[Orange County Virginia Will Book 2, Dorman, pg. 17].

Page 78. Frederick Bumgardner. Inventory. Total valuation £13.9.0. (signed) George Clore, Russel Hill, Francis Mickall. 27 March 1746. Returned.

[Orange County Virginia Will Book 2, Dorman, pg. 14].

John Deer names his "beloved wife Catharine" in his will (Culpeper County, Virginia Will Book B: 422-423).

There were only two men surnamed Deer (originally Hirsch in German) in the area at the time, Martin whose wives were named Pheronicka/Frances and Anna Maria and Johannes/John whose wife was named Catherine.


NOTE: She is not buried in this cemetery! Her burial location is unknown.


  • Thank you to Kenneth Deer for creating WikiTree profile Catron-25 through the import of Deer Family Tree.ged on Mar 20, 2013.
  • WikiTree profile Catherine-215 created through the import of JOSEPH~1.GED on Jul 14, 2012 by Joseph Stalnaker.

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Hi again! Prob: My managed profile for Catherine Kettenring-285 has been improperly rejected as a match for your managed profile for Catherine, Unknown-145! Please re-initiate the merge if you can. Contact me if you have questions, or to let me know what you think. Thanx!
The match was most properly rejected due to lack of evidence. Your sources are all the FamilySearch tree ... which has her second husband as Johannes Jeremiah Hirsch. This was not his name! There are no original records that show his name as anything other than Johannes Hirsch / John Deer. There are no sources, particularly original records, for any of the information found on the FamilySearch tree. These things do not instill confidence in the information presented, especially when independent research does not verify it. The FamilySearch tree is crowdsourced, as is WikiTree. Some people swear by both but I have seen a lot of bad information along with the good so original source information is vital. You also have a fundamental misunderstanding of the name "Catron". It is NOT Catherine's surname. It is a variant of the name Catherine and comes from the will of her son Joel Bumgarner who names his mother "Catron Deer" (Culpeper County, Virginia Will Book B: 111). If you found the marriage record of Catherine to her first husband Johann Friedrich Baumgärtner in Schwaigern or that her father named her in his will, then this would be a completely different conversation.
posted by Cathi (Clore) Frost
I have new sources verifying the Kettenring LNAB for Catherine Catron-Kettenring (Baumgardner) (Deer) posted on comments section 0f Kettenrin-285, please take a look.
RE: Merge of Catherine Unknown (Baumgaertner) (Unknown-145) with Kettenring-285 & Catron-45:

Unknown-145 LNAB is definately Kettenring (Kettering) as she is the daughter of Christoff Kettenring, even though my source information is slim, ( Her mother is Barbara Worz (Kettenring) She was evidently married 4 times , married names: (Major), (Baumgardner-Baumgaertner), (Deer) I may have failed to mention Catron-45 before, but this person is also a match for Catherine. So now we have a Double-Merge! There is currently no profile MGR for Catron-45, which will simplify things. Note that Kettenring-285 has Burial location, FindAGrave Citation, Marriage Date, & some notes wich should be preserved in the merge. Thanx

Kettenring-285 and Unknown-145 appear to represent the same person because: Please agree to merge these duplicate profiles. Thanks!

There doesn't appear to be any evidence that her maiden name was Kettenring. If that's true, then the final profile should be Unknown-145.

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Unknown-488455 and Unknown-145 appear to represent the same person because: Catherine was married first to Johann Friedrich Baumgärtner and second to Johannes Hirsch / John Deer.
posted by Cathi (Clore) Frost

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