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Joyce (Unknown) Lombard (1595 - aft. 1689)

Joyce Lombard formerly [surname unknown] aka Wallen
Born in Yorkshire, London, Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married before 1623 in Englandmap
Wife of — married about 1645 (to about 10 Jun 1662) [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusettsmap
Profile last modified | Created 16 Aug 2014 | Last significant change: 5 Jun 2020
16:55: Ross Holman rejected a match of Small-2161 and Unknown-248038 with a comment. [Thank Ross for this]
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Joyce (Unknown) Lombard migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640).
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Disputed Origins

Some, without source, claim she was the daughter of Thomas Nell and Jane or Joan Nycalson.

Per Wakefield (1976), Rue (1992) and Anderson (1995), her maiden name was not known. Her last name at birth, therefore, is being changed to Unknown and she is being detached from any parents.

Biography

Joyce married first Ralph Wallen by whom she had children. Ralph and Joyce Wallen came to America on board the ship ANNE, with 58 others arriving in Plymouth in 1623. Anne was one of four Mayflower ships (Mayflower, Anne, Fortune, and Little James). A "division of cattle" was made in New Plymouth Colony 1 Jun 1627. Ralph and Joyce Wallen were assigned to the thirteen-member Company of Francis Eaton. In the "division of cattle" their group was given "an heyfer of the last yeare called the white belyed heyfer and two shee goats."

After his death, she married second, as his fourth and last wife, Thomas Lombard. She was not the mother of any of his children.

Joyce apparently died after March 26, 1689, when she was mentioned in a deposition by her stepson, Bernard Lumbert. No death record has been found for Joyce.[1]

Amos Otis also wrote a biography for this family,[2] including details about Lombard property:

  • Amos Otis states that the name was written in many ways, including Lumber, Lumbert, Lumbart and Lumbard, but he states that he never saw it written as Lombard, the way Truro branch of the family spelled the name.[3]

According to this page on the Lambert surname, "There were Lamberts in New England as early as 1631, when Thomas Lumbert arrived in the Massachusetts Bay Colony from Dorset, England. Descendants had numerous spelling variations, such as Lumbard and Lambert."


Sources

  1. Eleanor Cooley Rue, "Widow Joyce Wallen of Plymouth (1645) and Widow Joyce Lombard of Barnstable (1664) One and the Same?" in The American Genealogist, 67(Jan 1992):47, at 51
  2. Otis, pp 841-843
  3. Amos Otis, The Lumbert or Lombard Family, in Leonard H. Smith Jr, Cape Cod Library of Local History & Genealogy, A Facsimile Edition of Pamphlets published in the Early 20th century; Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992, Vol 1; No. 54; Page 841

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Small-2161 and Unknown-248038 do not represent the same person because: not enough similarity
posted by Ross Holman
Small-2161 and Unknown-248038 appear to represent the same person because: Her maiden name is Unknown
posted by Anne B
It's known that Thomas Lumbert/Lombard (1582-1662) married Joyce, widow of Ralph Wallen, after the latter's death in 1643. Her birth year was closer to 1595 than 1610 (as she married Ralph Wallen before 1623 in England) and either Yorkshire or London. Hard to determine as her Last Name at Birth is Unknown still (controversy exists). These 2 profiles are clearly both about this woman and should be merged. I suggest 1595 as birth year.
posted by Darrell Parker
I think this needs more information but would like some discussion on this proposed merge.

Dick Lambert

Chet says Unknown-248038 and Unknown-326332 appear to represent the same person because:

It's known that Thomas Lumbert/Lombard (1582-1662) married Joyce, widow of Ralph Wallen, after the latter's death in 1643. Her birth year was closer to 1595 than 1610 (as she married Ralph Wallen before 1623 in England) and either Yorkshire or London. Hard to determine as her Last Name at Birth is Unknown still (controversy exists). These 2 profiles are clearly both about this woman and should be merged. I suggest 1595 as birth year.

posted by Dick Lambert
Unknown-248038 and Unknown-326332 appear to represent the same person because: It's known that Thomas Lumbert/Lombard (1582-1662) married Joyce, widow of Ralph Wallen, after the latter's death in 1643. Her birth year was closer to 1595 than 1610 (as she married Ralph Wallen before 1623 in England) and either Yorkshire or London. Hard to determine as her Last Name at Birth is Unknown still (controversy exists). These 2 profiles are clearly both about this woman and should be merged. I suggest 1595 as birth year.
posted by Chet Snow
Was she born in Yorkshire House on Maddox Street in the Mayfair district of London, or in Yorkshire?
posted by Mona (Dickson) Jensen
I can find no evidence for Joyce's parentage. Anderson, in "The Great Migration Begins, identifies no origins. Do you have evidence that Thomas Nell and Jane Joan Nycalson were her parents? Vic
posted by Vic Watt
Homer, Do you have evidence for Joyce's parentage and the marriage date to Lombard? Anderson, in the GMB, give the marriage date to third wife, Joyce as "1644" (and after 1643), and identifies no parents. Joyce was not the mother of his children; that was wife 1 or 2. Vic
posted by Vic Watt
Joyce-785 and Nell-1 appear to represent the same person because: Same husband, DOB close, Son
posted by Darrell Parker

Rejected matches › Joyce Small (1610-1683)

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