Maud (Unknown) de Bocland
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Maud (Unknown) de Bocland (abt. 1140 - aft. 1185)

Maud "Matilda" de Bocland formerly [surname unknown] aka Ludgershall
Born about in Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married 1160 in Wiltshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 45 in Buckland, Berkshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Maud, wife of Peter de Ludgershall and Hugh de Bocland was probably born circa 1140. She had three children with Peter, who took the surname Fitz Piers or Fitz Peter. The second son Geoffrey was wildly successful and was given the recreated title Earl of Essex by King John in 1199. In a charter dated between 1185 and 1200 Maud transferred property to Southwick Abbey. Her date of death is not known, but obviously it was after 1185. [1]

Also not known is the date of death of her first husband. Hugh de Bocland her second died in 1175. By him she had two children, the heir was their son William de Bocland. He and his half brother Geoffrey Fitz Piers married sisters who were the heirs of William de Say. [1]

Research notes

Concerning Maud's ancestry. Maud was not the daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville. This is an error based on a difficult to decipher page on the family in the book The Complete Peerage.[2] This error was perpetuated in the Keats-Rohan book Domesday Descendants,[3] but has been corrected online.[4]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Charles Cawley, "EARLS of ESSEX 1199-1227 (MANDEVILLE)" on Medieval Lands, website by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (accessed August 2022).
  2. Cokayne et al, Complete Peerage, 2nd ed., vol.5, pedigree between pages 116 and 117, under ESSEX.
  3. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p.566.
  4. SGM discussion in 2002: "Matilda de Mandeville" by Keats-Rohan". See also the Doomsday Corrections the Medieval Genealogy Website (https://fmg.ac/projects/domesday-corrections/descendants-301-600 under "p.566 de Mandeville, Gaufrid II; p.330 de Boclande, Hugo II").




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Maud's surname is Unknown.

From Doug Richardson- Complete Peerage gives solid evidence that Geoffrey Fitz Peter's parents were Peter de Ludgershall and his wife, Maud. Peter is known to have held the manor of Cherhill, Wiltshire. He was evidently also known as Peter the Forester. As such, I assume that he was forester of the royal forest of Ludgershall adjacent to Ludgershall Castle in Wiltshire. Maud's parentage is not known. It appears, however, that she had an interest in property at Costow, Wiltshire which may well have been her maritagium. Maud was probably closely related (possibly sister?) to Roger Fitz Geoffrey, of Somerford, Wiltshire, lineal ancestor of the Lords Mautravers. If Roger was her brother, it would explain the appearance of the name Geoffrey among her children.

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/8aU-yR4P8hE

posted by Nancy Yeager
Re my comments on Hugh Boclande if her surname Mandeville is removed should Piers also be removed as a second husband?

Unless they have been corrected both Richardson and Magna Carta Sureties have the name Mandeville linked to all three persons.

posted by Malc Rowlands
edited by Malc Rowlands
Need to change her LNAB to Unknown, she was not a de Mandeville.
I can find no documentation of the parents of Maud. Does anyone have something? Otherwise, I think she should be disconnected from any parents.

FMG: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#GeoffreyMandevilleEssexdied1144B

posted by Vic Watt

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