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Rebecca (Hilton) Roberts (1602 - bef. 1673)

Rebecca [uncertain] Roberts formerly Hilton
Born in Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 71 in Dover, Strafford, New Hampshiremap
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There are disproven, disputed, or competing theories about this person's parents. See the text for details.
The Puritan Great Migration.
Rebecca (Hilton) Roberts migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).
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Note: There remains insufficient evidence to determine the parents and last name at birth, as well as the parents of her husband, Thomas Roberts. See the Research Notes below.

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Biography

Research Notes

Disputed Identity and Parents

First it must be noted that there is apparently no proof that her first name was actually Rebecca although it is asserted, without source in a variety of places. As a project-managed profile (PGM), an unproven name is sometimes left in place mainly to prevent users from creating a new (and unsourced) profile of that same name in a mistaken belief that the name is a proven fact.

Rebecca's husband Thomas Roberts "probably was married in 1627. The maiden name of his wife is not known, but there is a tradition she was sister of Edward Hilton. Further than that we know not."[1] Pre-merge parents given as: Mark Hilton and Ellen Mainwarring, without sources. If she was sister of Edward, her father would have been called William.

More information from a Roberts researcher: "It is "traditionally given that the wife of Thomas Roberts was Rebecca Hilton, sister of Edward and William Hilton". What does that mean? I cannot find anywhere anything other than that statement when looking for detail on the wife of Thomas Roberts. The baptisms of the children of William Hilton of Witton cum Twamsbrook, Cheshire are recorded in the parish records. His children include Edward, William and Richard who all immigrated to New Hampshire. There is also a son John, and daughters Margaret, Mary and Elizabeth. There is no Rebecca. There is no known date of birth and there is no known date of death. There is no record of their marriage. They did not even name a daughter after her and interestingly only one of her five children named a girl Rebecca. Everything that is written about her is pure conjecture and not fact. I'm not even sure her name was really Rebecca."[2]

Rebecca has briefly been shown on WikiTree as daughter of Mark Hilton and Ellen Mainwaring, both of whose profiles, as at 4 June 2022, lack sourcing. There appears to be no evidence for this.

Insufficient Evidence

The following should be considered as potential leads, but not as evidence.

  • Marriage: "U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700", database with images
    Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, USA, Volume Title New England Marriages Prior to 1700
    Ancestry Sharing Link (free access)
    Ancestry Record 3824 #165152 (Accessed 14 April 2023)
    Rebecca Roberts marriage to Thomas Roberts in 1628 in New England, USA.
  • Land deed: Thomas Roberts, Senr., and wife Rebecca, to John York, certain "land at Durham." — (Underhill, citing "New Hampshire Deeds, Book 3:129-a" records of 1 July 1669)[3][4][5]
  • Burial: "U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current", database
    Find A Grave: Memorial #102308677
    Ancestry Record 60525 #72773725 (subscription required, accessed 14 April 2023)
    Rebecca Roberts burial (died on 27 Sep 1673) in Kings Chapel Burying Ground, Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, United States of America.
    Rebecca Roberts birthdate is reported by Find a Grave to have been 1602 at Monkwearmouth, Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland, Tyne and Wear, England.

Sources

  1. John Scales, History of Dover, N.H. (1989), pp. 302-303.
  2. The Family Connection, http://www.jeaniesgenealogy.com/2013/01/thomas-roberts-of-dover-new-hampshire.html
  3. Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill, "Descendants of Edward Small of New England" at 1116, citing New Hampshire Deeds, Book 3:129-a, for 1 July 1669, "Thomas Roberts, Senr., and wife Rebecca, to John York, certain "land at Durham.""
  4. Everett S. Stackpole, et al., (Thomas Roberts sold land to John York on 1 July 1669.) p.35. (Accessed 14 Apr 2023) https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc2.ark:/13960/t6xw4qw0n?urlappend=%3Bseq=53
  5. FamilySearch library access is restricted: Province New Hampshire deeds and probate records from 1623-1772)
  • Quint, Alonzo Hall, Historical memoranda concerning persons and places in old Dover, N.H. Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.
  • Batchellor, Albert Stillman, ed., Probate Records of the Province of New Hampshire 1635-1740. (Concord, NH, USA: Rumford Printing Co., 1907). New Hampshire Probate Records, 1635-1753 Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2003.




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The 1669 land deed between Thomas Roberts Sr. and John York, which is also signed by (with her mark) Rebecca Roberts, would seem to be adequate proof that her first name was Rebecca. I've examined the original deed and she is there. It doesn't specifically state that she was his wife, or mention anything about a release of dower, but I can think of no other reason a woman would cosign a deed like this unless she was the wife. So why is that deed listed in an "Insufficient Evidence" section.
posted by Bill Teschek
We don't know that the Rebecca who is listed on the deed is Thomas's only wife and the mother of Thomas's children.

We also don't know that she was a Hilton.

The available evidence is insufficient because we have not found her birth record or marriage record, and we have not found birth records for her children that name her.

posted by Murray Maloney
True, but I think it's sufficient to state that he had a wife named Rebecca at that point in time. But you're right that she might not be the mother of his children, and given that none of his children were named Rebecca, and only one of his grandchildren were, argues for it being a second wife. Especially considering he named a son Thomas and had several grandchildren named Thomas, so the family obviously had a tradition of passing on first names.
posted by Bill Teschek
As with her husband, I propose the addition of
There are disproven, disputed, or competing theories about this person's parents. See the text for details.
to this profile, with a pointer to the Research Notes.
posted by Murray Maloney
Murray, thank you for pointing this out. I've gone ahead and added the note to the profile.
posted by Scott Carles
Her birth was recently changed from "1602 at England" to "1602 at Monkwearmouth, Durham, England." Her death location was likewise changed, from "Dover, Strafford, New Hamsphire" to "Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts ..." Other changes were also made. For example, her name as Rebecca was marked certain.

I plan to revert those changes.

Hope those who feel this action was premature will comment here and provide reliable sources so that we may collaborate further.--Gene

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
Yes please. Similar changes were made to her father's profile, without sources, and I've reverted the changes. [Edit: meant husband, not father.]
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hilton-4621 and Hilton-53 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicates. Please merge. See pre-merge note early in profile about parents shown on Hilton-4621.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Michael, thanks for initiating this multi-generation cleanup merge. What is your thought as to handling Rebecca's linked but apparently unsupported parents on the Hilton-4621 profile? I see somebody else has started weighing in via comments on her father https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hilton-4622
posted by Brad Stauf
If the tradition is right and Rebecca was a sister of Edward, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hilton-52, her father was called William (see Edward's profile, which says nothing about his mother). But there appears to be no good source to back up the tradition.

Unless you or another WT member can find good evidence for her parents, I would be inclined to remove the unsupported parents when completing the merge, but to add a research note mentioning what I have just said in the preceding paragraph.

An alternative is first to ask a question in G2G to see if anyone has any sourcing to support the tradition.

posted by Michael Cayley
Severing parents with a research note sounds perfect. If you have time to post a G2G query as well that would be great. Since PGM co-manages this profile i don't mind making the post and monitoring it to help out.
posted by Brad Stauf
Probably better if you do the post, and monitor answers and comments, as I have no particular interest in the family. Thank you!

I am taking your reply as agreement from PGM that I can complete the merge, so I will do so, and add the research note. Please edit the research note as you think appropriate :-)

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
I now have put the whole discussion of parents into a Research Notes section. Please improve on what I have done!
posted by Michael Cayley
Thanks Michael, it looks fine and I'll make the G2G post. Not being very familiar with this family I didn't realize that even her first name was uncertain so I'll do a bit more reading before I make the post.

I see the original post from 2015 asking the same question so rather than re-invent the wheel I'll put an updated comment on it. I still don't see anything in the G2G post or in the sources here or on Thomas that provide a primary source for her first or last name.

posted by Brad Stauf
edited by Brad Stauf
Hilton-2005 and Hilton-53 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse, some dates need to be reconciled.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
The date given for her death is the date of Thomas' will. She seems to already be dead as she is not named. I don't understand the reference to her death in Boston? Also wondering where is the evidence that her name was Rebecca. Was she named in a document, such as a land deed?
I've detached Rebecca's alleged parents, per the discussion on the G2G thread. There is a link to her alleged brother Edward in the first paragraph of the profile. Perhaps more information will appear in the future...
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]
Hilton-1168 and Hilton-53 appear to represent the same person because: I believe these profiles represent the same person.

Cheers, Susan

posted by [Living Martin]
Hilton-53 and Unknown-205110 appear to represent the same person because: same
posted by Philip Smith
This profile has been identified as a duplicate by an Arborist. Please review the proposed merge - bottom of the profile on the left. If they are duplicates please approve the merge. If you have questions or would like assistance please ask an Arborist. Thank you.
posted by Toby Rockwell
What verifiable document gives her last name as Hilton? Birth, marriage, immigration?
posted by Ed Poor
This profile is a work-in-progress. Under the developing rules on historically-significant ancestors over 300-years-old supervisors are doing expedited merges. We need one manager to take primary responsibility for each profile. Management rights and/or trusted status may be terminated per policy. Please see http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Historically-significant_ancestors for more details. Please feel free to contact me with any questions as well. Thanks!
posted by Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie

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