Helena (Unknown) Schneider (abt. 1822 - bef. 1897)

Born about 1822 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Descendants

Died before 1897 before about age 75 in Grimm, Kamyshin, Saratov, Russia

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Biography

Helena (Unknown) Schneider was a Volga German.

Helena (Unknown) Schneider has German Roots.

Family #119 in the 1857 Grimm census.
Family #402 in the 1897 Grimm census.

Birth Date and Place

• 1822
• Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Parents

Marriage

• Johann Jakob Schneider
• by 1848
• Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Children

• Katharina Margaretha Schneider, born 1841
• Johann Jakob Schneider, born 1845
• Friedrich Jakob Schneider, born 1848
• Katharina Elisabeth (Schneider) Fritzler, born 1849
• Christian Jakob Schneider, born 1852
• Elisabeth Margaretha Schneider, born 1854

Death Date and Place

• Before 1897 [Husband Jacob is widowed by 1897 census]
• Grimm, Saratov, Russia

1857 Grimm Census ^[1]

Family # 119

Head of the Household Philipp Rausch, age 40 in 1850, to household #120

Child #1 Philipp Rausch, age 22, in 1850, to household #120

Child #2 Michael Rausch, age 17 in 1850, to household #120

Child #3 Johann Jakob Rausch, age 9 in 1850, to household #120

Child #4 Friedrich Rausch, age 5 in 1850, to household #120

Child #5 Alexander Rausch, age 3 in 1850, to household #120

Child #5 Unnamed daughter

Grandchild #1 Alexander Rausch, age 4, illegitimate grandson by an unnamed daughter

Sister #1 Barbara [Rausch] Schneider, age 52

Husband of Sister #1 Georg Michael Schneider, age 58

Child #6 Johann Jakob Schneider, age 37

Wife of Child #6 Helena Schneider, age 35

Grandchild #2 Katharina Margaretha Schneider, age 16

Grandchild #3 Johann Jakob Schneider, age 12

Grandchild #4 Friedrich Schneider, age 9

Grandchild #5 Katharina Elisabeth Schneider, age 8

Grandchild #6 Christian Jakob Schneider, age 5

Grandchild #7 Elisabeth Margaretha Schneider, age 3

Child #7 Georg Jakob Schneider, age 35 years 6 months

Wife of Child #7 Maria Elisabeth Schneider, age 28

Grandchild #8 Georg Jakob Schneider, age 6 months in 1850, deceased 1850

Grandchild #9 Katharina Margaretha Schneider, age 6

Grandchild #10 Christina Margaretha Schneider, age 3

Grandchild #11 Michael Schneider, age 6 months

Child #8 Friedrich Schneider, age 20

Child #9 Johann Philipp Schneider, age 17

Child #10 Philipp Jakob Schneider, age 11

Child #11 Katharina Elisabeth Schneider, age 9

Sister #2 Anna Margaretha Rausch, age 45

Child #12 Elisabeth Rausch, age 7, illegitimate daughter of Anna Margaretha Rausch

By 1897, her husband was listed as a widower in the census. This indicates that she passed away prior to that year.

1897 Grimm Census ^[2]

Family #402

Head of the Household Jakob Schneider, age 77, widower

Child #1 Johann Jakob Schneider, age 51

Wife of Child #1 Katharina Elisabeth Schneider, age 30 [2nd wife]

Grandchild #1 Jakob Schneider, age 20 [by 1st wife Helena]

Wife of Grandchild #1Anna Schneider, age 18

Great Grandchild #1' Jakob Schneider, age 2 months

Grandchild #1 Heinrich Schneider, age 12

Grandchild #1 Herman Schneider, age 8

Grandchild #1 Alexander Schneider, age 6

Grandchild #1 Friedrich Schneider, age 4

Grandchild #1 Georg Jakob Schneider, age 2

Grandchild #1 Christina Schneider, age 19 [daughter by 1st wife Helena]

Boarder Helene Schneider, age 14 [likely a relative; son Jakob's first wife was Helena, so maybe a cousin or the child of another brother]]

In this census, there was a "boarder" living with the family named Helene Schneider. Helene/Helena was not a common name in Grimm. The Helen Schneider living with the family in 1897 was likely some kind of relative.

Research Notes

There was no one named Helena, first or middle name, born in Grimm in 1822. She may have come from a different village. If she was from Grimm, however, then her age is incorrect. Here are the women with Helena as one of their names who were born in or reasonably close to 1822: ^[3]

• Family #194 Helena Muth 1817
• Family #33 Helena Hepp 1828
• Family #121 Helena Friesorger 1828
• Family #232 Helena Charlotta Staehle 1828
• Family #223 Helena Charlotta Dumler 1817

In terms of proximity, Helen Friesorger (#121) lived the closest to the Schneiders (#104) in 1834.

Sources

1. ↑ 1857 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 5 November 1857; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2005; page 44, family #119, Philipp Rausch family.
2. ↑ 1897 Grimm (Lesnoi Karamysh), Russia Census List, Translated by Richard Rye, Compiled and Edited by John Groh, Contributor Henry Schmick; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published 2017; page 238-239, family #402, Jacob Schneider family.
3. ↑ 1834 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 2 February 1835; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2011; see the family numbers in the list above.