Elender
Mancil
formerly [surname unknown] aka Egar, Eggars
[uncertain]
Born in North Carolina, United States
[uncertain]
[uncertain]Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of
William A Mansell Sr.
— married
1808 [location unknown]
Descendants 
Mother of
Benjamin Mansell, Simeon Mancill, Hannah (Mansell) Kimery, Martha Mancill and Lumin Mancill
Died after
after age 70
in Marion, Alabama, United States
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Biography
This profile represents the woman who was supposedly first wife of William A Mansell of Marion Co., Alabama, and mother of at least one of his children (Hannah Mansell Kimmery).
Her first name is believed to be Elender; her maiden name is not yet confirmed although some believe it was Egar or Eggars; some include a middle name Jane; no one has yet provided a reliable source for either Egar, Eggars or Jane.
- "I believe she may be from the Landrine Eggers family or earlier. They were in Ashe Co. NC which adjoins Stokes, and Eggers were also in Chester Co., SC when the Mansells were in Fairfield Co., SC. Chester Co. SC adjoins Fairfield."[1]
Some family members believe she was Native American or of Native American descent. We find no evidence to support this claim.
The only contemporaneous documentation of her name is the 1860 United States Federal Census where she is enumerated as "Elender Mancil" in the home of Solomon and Hannah Kimery. [2] This enumeration has led some to believe that she was mother of Hannah.
This claim is supported by a 1970 interview and memory of a family bible which named her:
- Gillie Clementine Donaldson McGuyer (1884-1974) was daughter of Amanda Kimery Donaldson, and granddaughter of Hannah Mansell Kimery. This information was recorded in a family Bible belonging to Gillie (seen by Janet Fowler in 1970), which was lost after Gillie's death. In a 1970 conversation with Janet Fowler, Gillie Donaldson remembered her mother, but was only 2 yrs old when Hannah Mansell and Solomon Kimery were living. "I [Janet Fowler] remember seeing the name, or one similar, Elender in this Bible. It has been over 50 yrs since I have seen the Bible, so memory may not be serving me well. I do not remember seeing the name Morning Dove White. There was never a mention of Cherokee heritage. Not having the Bible makes this account folklore as I [Janet Fowler?] can only tell what I remember without documentation."[3]
Elender was born about 1790; she died after 1860.[2]
1860 U.S. Federal Census - Marion County, Alabama (Allens Factory Post Office)[2]
- Solomon Kimrey, age 43, born in North Carolina
- Harrah [Hannah] Kimrey, age 45 born in North Carolina
- William Kimrey, age 23, born in Tennessee
- Abraham Kimrey, age 18, born in Tennessee
- Mary Kimrey, age 17, born in Tennessee
- Sarah Kimrey, age 15, born in Tennessee
- Margaret Kimrey, age 14, born in Tennessee
- Taylor Kimrey, age 12, born in Tennessee
- Amanda Kimrey, age 10, born in Tennessee
- Albert Kimrey, age 7, born in Tennessee
- Nancy Kimrey, age 5, born in Tennessee
- Hanah Kimrey, age 4, born in Tennessee
- Henry Kimrey, age 4/12, born in Tennessee
- Elender Mancil, age 70 , born in North Carolina [believed to be mother of Hannah (Mancil) Kimrey ]
Sources
- ↑ Gloria Lee Reid, email to Jillaine Smith 24 Jun 2023; source details sought.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 "United States Census, 1860," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YBG-68Q?cc=1473181&wc=7QN3-GKQ%3A1589422203%2C1589422242%2C1589422245 : 24 March 2017), Alabama > Marion > Eastern District > image 75 of 114; from "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," database, Fold3.com (http://www.fold3.com : n.d.); citing NARA microfilm publication M653 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.; also available at internet archive
- ↑ Memory of Janet Fowler, from 1970 visit with Gillie Clementine Donaldson McGuyer (1884-1974)
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Elender by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elender:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Elender by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elender:
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~3.12%
Peggy Kimery
:
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch FG4066084 [compare], Ancestry member mssippiKimery
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~1.56%
~3.12%
Janet Fowler :
23andMe
+
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A178828 [compare], yourDNAportal JAN94d42ab6, Ancestry member FowlerGen
+
Family Tree DNA Family Finder, GEDmatch A178828 [compare], FTDNA kit #B5236
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~1.56%
Andrea Powell :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch T464716 [compare], Ancestry member apowell42
+
Family Tree DNA Family Finder, GEDmatch F347023 [compare], yourDNAportal ANDd75beadb, FTDNA kit #347023
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~0.78%
Melanie (Isom) Bird :
Family Tree DNA Family Finder, FTDNA kit #401130
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Categories: Native American Adjunct
I believe that leaving the possible last name Egar and her status as NA will be later misleading to other Genealogist, especially beginners. This causes that slippery slope we all hate so much.
Wouldn't it just be better to leave her as Elender "unknown" until or if a source can be found? Supposed names can lead others down a long road of wrong info and with an end result of nothing.
Thank you!
edited by Jillaine Smith
She married William Mansell and her last name is spelled Mancil in a census. I am very uncertain where the last name Egar came from as well.