Mary (Unknown) Putnam
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Mary (Unknown) Putnam (abt. 1628 - 1695)

Mary Putnam formerly [surname unknown] aka Veren
Born about [location unknown]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
Wife of — married 1646 in Salem, Essex, Massachusettsmap
Wife of — married 14 Nov 1666 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 67 in Salem, Essex, Province of Massachusetts Baymap
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Disputed Origins

No sources have been found to show that Mary's last name was Ingersoll, or that she was the daughter of Lawrence Ingersoll and Lydia Bentley. No records were found of Lawrence and his wife except on Geni, and Lawrence was not identified by Anderson as having arrived to New England between 1620-1640.

Mary is thought by some to have the last name Ingersoll because George Ingersoll, senior, called her "sister", but George also said that Mary was his wife's only sister. The referenced George is possibly George Ingersoll, who is somewhat older than Mary, and whose wife, Elizabeth ______ was likely the same approximate age as Mary. However, they were possibly not living in 1695 when George gave his deposition per information on George's profile.

Biography

In a deposition Mary lindall. aged forty-five, wife of Timothy Lindall, calls Mrs. Mary Putnam, "Mother Putnam," and George Ingersoll, senior, calls her "sister Mary Putnam."[1] It should be noted that this referenced source shows her last name at birth as unknown.

In 1684, Mary (Veren) Putnam, in the appointment of seats in the meeting house at the Village, was seated in the first, or principal pew, reserved for women.[1]

The will of Mary, relict of Lt. Thomas Putnam, is dated 8 January, 1695 ; proved 20 May, 1695. She bequeaths to her husband's children, Thomas Putnam, Edward Putnam, Deliverance Wolcott, Elizabeth Bayley, Prudence Wayman, and to her own son, Joseph Putnam.

I Mary Putnam widdow of Salem… rellect to Lieutenant Thomas Putnam… deceased and Executrix to his last will and testament… doe declare and make this my Last will and testament…
To my husband putnams children:
Item I give unto Thomas Putnam five shillings and unto Edward Putnam five shillings and deliverance walcot five shillings and unto Elizabeth bayle ten shillings & unto prudence wayman ten shillings unto all which I have done some things allredy according to my ability and might I would have done more but that some of my husbands children and relations have brought upon me Inconvenient and unnesassary charges and disbursetments at several times and all the rest or remainding part of my estate… I give and bequeath unto my sone Joseph putnam… whom allsoe I doe constitute and ordaine sole executor… the twentieth and eggth day of January… one thousand six hundered ninty and five…
Witneses the marke of
George Jacob mary M Putnam
The mark of
Sarah S Cane
The mark D of
Deborah knights

From Rev. Parris’ records:

Mar. 17. Mrs. Mary Putnam widow, 69
A Negroe Woman of said Putnams a few weeks
A child of ye said Negroe Womans a little after ye death of the mother. (4)
The deposission of nathaniell Ingersoll and Hannah his wife do testifieth and saith that we being discorsing with Sarah cane some time about mistris mary putnams death about the said mistres mary putnams making a will and she [ ] us she knew of no will she had made: and nathaniell Ingersoll further saith that Sarah Cane said further she did not believe she was capable of making any and they [ ] that this was some few days before she decd
Nathaniel Ingersoll
Marke of
Hanah AL Ingersoll
Bartholmew Gedney Esqr, Judge of ye Probate of Wills…
To Sarah Cane & Deborah Knight Greeting
Whereas Complaint hath been made to ye sd Bartholmew Gedney Esq…. that ye last Will & Testament of Mrs. Mary Putnam decd was made by her when she was not of sound mind & memory or at least yt she was not before & after ye making thereof sound in memory…
You are in his Majties Name Required both & every of you to make your personal appearance before ye said Bartholmew Gedney Esqr on Monday next being ye Seventeenth Instant at ye house of mr ffancis Ellis in Salem at two of ye clock in ye afternoon… June ye 10th 1695…
Steph Sewall-
The testymony of thomas Preson aged 52 years or there abouts testyfieth that some time in February last Thomas Putnam being asked by me how his mother Putnam did he answered and said she was a very weake woman I question whether she will recover this [ ] her fits have brought her very lowe but yet she retains her sence and reason I think as well as every she had…
Thomas pearson
June ye 17th 1695
The testymony of Israel porter aged 52 years or there abouts testifieth and saith tht mrs mary putnam being about to make her will I was desiered to writ it for her therefore in [ ] it I did discourse with her about how she did intend to dispose of what she had to dispose of : and what she would give to her sons and daughters in law : truly she said she [ ] done for them all ready according to my abilytie : and if I should give them a smale matter it will but give offense and to give them a grat deal I don’t know how Joseph can pay it for there is a gret deal to pay yet then I asked her whether she would not be willing to give ten pounds equally between them she said Aye it is esie to write down a thousand but whome whill it be had I asked her whether I should speak with her son to see whatt he thought of it he being not [ ] able to come to her she said you may if you will acordingly I did and he said what his mother should doe he would be sattisfied with it : and I made return to her but she shewed her dislike of it but while I was waiting I was informed that I should set down five shillings apiece for three of them and ten for two of them and her son should be Executor to her will and I doe judge according to my best understand she was of a disposing minde and becaus it did agree with all her discourse as fare as ever I did decern having herd her what she said at several times about settleing her Estate… Israel Porter
June ye 17th 1695…
The testymony of Timothy Lindall aged about 53 years saith that I was to see my mother in law Mrs Putnam sum tyme after she had her ffitts & she spake to mee much of many things butt [ ] about her spiretuall condition as desonetly & rationaly as ever I heard her speake & from tyme to tyme when my wife went to see her sum did say they thought she did not know them that [ ] but after they were gon she would speake rationaly to her & speake of the persons & descors that had bin in the roome as my wife informed me.
Timo Lndall
The testymony of Mary Lindall aged about 45 years saith that I was often with my mother puttnam after she had her ffitts: from ffirst to last I [ ] her to bee as rationall as ever she was : [ ] of her fits but the nearer she grew to her [ ] the tyme of her having [ ] often was shorter then befor & after people wer gon yt thought she had lost [ ] reson she would speake to mee sencably & [ ] her that her husbands children would [ ] her son : but she said she could not beleve it & when she [ ] about making her will : was advised to give them something & she answered that there was nothing due to them ffor she said she had given considerably [ ] among them wch she had not told any of it but to my selfe and often said she desired to doe the thing that was right Mary
The deposission of Ann Duglis widdow who testifieth and saith that very munday that my sister Abigail barking went to mr cheves to spinning I was sent for to nurs my old mistress mary Putnam widdow latte of Salem deceased and accordingly I went to hir house that munday night and when I came to hir she seemed to be sensible for she knew me tho she was very sick and weake and she continuewed pretty sensible for the first week I tended hir tho on the fryday and saterday she seemed to stare with hir eies on the saterday night I went hom to my father darlings house on saboth day night next Joseph Putnam wife sent for me again fereing she would have a fitt on the munday or Tuesday next while we was agitting hir up she dyed away and was gon for I don’t know how long but at last revived againe for a while and the same day she dyed away againe but att last revived againe so I resieded there the tusday and wensday and part of the thirde day following in which time she had two or three fits every day and not being well my self and being frighted with hir fits I dissired to go hom and Thomas Putnam coming there on third day being the last day I was there they dissired him and I dissired him to go to git sarah cane to com to tend hir and accordingly she came the same day and I went hom… marke of
June ye 17th 1695 Ann X Duglass
The deposistion of William Grigges senr physician who testifieth and saith that about the beginning of last winter mistris mary Putnam widdow late of Salem [ ] sent for me in the beginning of hir last sickness: and when I came to hir first I found hir in a good disposistion of mind and spirit and hir discours was very understanding but according to my understanding I thought she was not a woman long for this world by the disseas that was upon hir: how ever I gave or left with hir sum thing that I thought might comfort hir after a while I went to visit hir againe before hir dying fits took hold on hir and then I found by hir discourse that hir memory and understanding was much decayed: and after hir dying fits took over they sent for me to com to hir againe and I gave hir sumthing which I hoped might mitigate them and then I found that hir dying fits had so stupyfied hir understanding and memory that tho she spoke sum times seemingly Rationally yet presently she would say she knew not what and I went several times to visit hir after hir dying fits took hir and according that understanding which goe has given me in disseass and in the constitutions of persons and of what I saw in hir before and after thes dying fits took hir: that she could not be said to be of a perfect and good memory from the first time hir dying fits took hir to the day of hir death but much the contrary marke of
William X Griggs
The deposistion of George ingersol senr who testifieth and saith that this last winter I went often to visett my sister mistres mary Putnam widdow late of Salem because in the time of hir last sicknes for she being my wives only sister and my wife not being able hir self to goe often to se hir I having litle to do went the oftener and I perceived by hir discourse that I had with hir before hir dying fits took hir that she was of good memory and understanding: but after hir dying fits came upon hir hir understanding and memory was so stupyfied that when I came to visit hir some times she would know me and some times she did not and some times she would spake seemingly rationall and presently would say she knew not what because she spake [ ] and I must say that according to that understanding which God has given me in what I saw by hir and heard hir say in the times that I went to vissett hir after hir dying fits took hir that she could not be said to be of good and perfect memory from the first time hir dying fits took to the day of hir death but much the contrary soe far as I observed her
Salem June 17th 1695 George Ingersoll
The deposistion of Abigail Darling aged 20 years who tesstifieth and saith that I was a spinning att the house of Mrs mary Putnam widdow late of Salem because about the beginning of January last past and then my affore said mistris had been sick for a considerable while and about the eight day of the month as I remember tho I am not so sartain of the day of the month as of the day of the week for I Remember it was upon a tusday that my afore said mistres being in hir chamber fell down and we concluded she was dead and we being all previously frighted some run one way and some another to tell our neighbors that she was dead but ofter a considerable while she beginner to Revive and att last she seemed to mind what we did but continewed very sick so that we thought she would quickly draw hir last breath and continewed very bad all night the next day being wensday she dyed away again and was gon for I know not how long I not being all ways in the chamber with hir that day att night she being sum what Rationall I perceived by the discours of thos that ware there that they wase exceedingly [ ] that she had not made a will and feared that she wold dy quite before she did make any but at last she was [ ] by some that ware there to make a will which she seemed to be unwilling to doe but att last [ ] the next day being thirde day Deborah knight and I ware sent into the malt hous to work: and all of a suding we ware called to go into the chamber to our mistris and when we cam into hir chamber to hir there was Mr Isarell porter with a paper written and asked hir to sett hir hand to it: and mr Isarell Porter stidding hir hand she made a mark on the paper and took of the seal and delivered to mr porter and then Deborah knight and I signed for witness and then mr Isarell porter tould us that we must take notis that our mistris was sensible or to that effect but I thought presently with my self that I wold not testifie so for all the world for I could not testifie that she was sensible nor I cold not testifie she was not: for sum times I thought she did spake sensible and some time I thought she did not: and I don’t know but that I might tell Deborah knight so. I know I [ ] so at my father house so I tarried there the fryday and saterday following iin which she was very sick and week and a saterday night I went whom to fathers house leveing hir very sick and the munday falling I called at the house as I went to mr cheaves to spinning and they tould me she was much as I left hir but then I saw hir not
Marke of
June 17th 1695 Abigail M Darling
To the Honourable Bartholomew Gedney Esqr Judge of the probate… the Humble petition of Thomas Putnam of Salem village…
That whereas I came this morning providentially to the town of Salem and accedenttially hard that my Brother Joseph Putnam doth intend this day to prosecute a confermation of that instrument which is caled his mothers last will: against which there is caution entered in your Honrs office: and severall of us that are consarned therein: have also petitioned your Honr that we may have Liberty and opportunity to contest the affore said Instriment before it pass the seal of your Honrs office: which petition I do againe most Humbly pray your Honr would be pleased to heare and grant: tho I am now here alone accedentyally for neither I nor either of my Brothers consarned had any notice when we should have a Hereing as ever I hard of and there being non of them here: my most Humble petition to your Honrs is that your Honr would be pleased to Appoint a time when we may have a hearing and also to grant that a Citation may be sent to sarah cane and Deborah knight who are two of the witnesses to the affore said instrument to appear before your Honr att the same time to answer to what shall be alledged against them about their evidence and that your Honr would be pleased to examine them a part about that matter by which means your Honr it may be may find out grate iniquity for it is evident that our mother Putnam was not of a sound mind and memory for near three months before she Last died and that she had been Lookt upon by standers by for dead severall times before the date of the affore said instrument for it seemeth very hard for flesh and blood to [ ] that thos which know not what an oath meanes in a word to sware away three or fouer hundred pounds from the Right owners thereof when the law also Requires credible witness in so weighty affaire. Therefore I also pray we may have Liberty for sommonses for witnesses so praying that God that has made your Honr a ffather to the ffatherless to give you wisdom to do that which is well pleasing in his sight I Remaine your most Humble petitioner
Dated in Salem 10th June 1695 Thomas Putnam
Edward Putnam
Jonathan Walcott
To the Honorable Bartholomew Gedney Esqur Judge of the probate…
That whereas our Honoured ffather Lieut. Thomas Putnam late of Salem deceased did by his last will and Testiment appoint our Brother Joseph Putnam his executor together with his mother in which said will our ffather doth severall times make mention of an Inventory or an aprizall of his estate that sould be made befor executrix or executor did meddle to dispose of his estate yet contrary to our ffathers will they have for these severall years used and disposed of our ffathers estate att their own wills and pleasure with out exhibiting a just and true Inventory of the same into any Court of Record: as we can find: tho they also have been commanded by authority so to doe: And now also our mother in law mistris mary Putnam being deceased our Brother Joseph Putnam has exhibited an instrument into your Honr office which is cald his mother will: which instrument as we Humbly conceive is not according to the intention of our fathers last will and testament for if she had any power to make any will she must desire it from his: and not having ffullfiled his wifll: we humbly conceive make hire seeming power void. Therefore our most Humble petition to your Honr is that before the aforesaid instrument pass the seal of your office that your Honr wold be pleased to command our Brother Joseph Putnam executor to our ffathers last will and testament to exhibit a just and true inventory of the goods estate and credits our ffather dyed possest of into your Registry of wills: and also a just and true inventory of the goods and estate of our ffather which was left at our mothers deceased which was undisposed of by our ffathers last will and testament for thos he be executor his portion is therin stated as well as ours: and that both we and others that are consarned may have the liberty and opportunity to contest the affore said instrument before it pass the seal of your office: so praying the all wise God to give your Honr abundant wisdom that the cause which you het know not you may sarch out and to doe that which is well pleasing in his sight dissireing nothing but that truth and Righteousnes may take place we Remain your most Humble petitioners all ways praying for you
Thomas Putnam
Edward Putnam
Jonathan Walcott (1)

Death

Mary died March 16, 1694/5, in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.


Family

Husband: Thomas Putnam
Wife: Mary Veren
Child: Joseph Putnam
Marriage: 14: 9 mo: 1666 (14 November 1666) [2]
Place: Salem, Essex, Massachusetts Marriage 14 Oct 1666, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts[3]

Research Notes

A number of databases and other sources have misinterpreted the marriage record. In 1666 the ninth month was November, not September

"Thomas Sr. married for a second time to a woman named Mary Veren on November 14, 1666. This union would produce one child — Joseph, who was born on September 14, 1669. Thomas, Jr. did not get along well with his younger half-brother Joseph and when his father died in 1686, he felt cheated out of his inheritance when Thomas Sr. left almost all of his estate to his second wife Mary, and their son Joseph. Thomas, Jr. and his brother would contest the will, but their efforts were unsuccessful. " [4]

Mary Veren widow of Nathaniel Veren a rich merchant formerly of Salem. In 1684, Mrs. Putnam in the apportionment of seats in the meeting house at the Village was seated in the first, or principal pew reserved for women.

Timeline

1666 9th Month, Day 14 Mary Veren, widow, married Lt. Thomas Putnam,[5]

1669 Sep 14 Joseph Putnam, son of Lt. Thomas and Mary Putnam was born [6]

1694-5 Mar 15 Mary Putnam, widow of Lt. Thomas Putnam died.[7]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Bill Putman, The Putnam & Putman Families http://billputman.com/the-genealogy/putnam-putman-families/the-new-england-putnam-families/Generations-1-4.pdf
  2. "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q29G-GWMM : 19 May 2022), Tho. Putnam and Mary Veren, 14 Nov 1666; citing Marriage, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, United States, Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth, Boston; FHL microfilm 007009706.
  3. Genealogical and Family History of the State of Vermont: Carleton, ed. Chicago: Lewis, 1903, pp 404- Text: After the death of his first wife, Lieutenant [Thomas] PUTNAM married 14 September 1666, [Mrs.] Mary VEREN, widow of Nathaniel VEREN, a wealthy merchant of Salem [Essex County, Massachusetts].
  4. The Vengeful Putnams of Salem Village, Massachusetts
  5. Vital records of Salem, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849; Page 233
  6. Vital records of Salem, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849; Page 213;
  7. Vital records of Salem, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849; Page 171

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Veren-12 and Unknown-560081 appear to represent the same person because: Details, names, dates match. Agree that LNAB should be Unknown, not Veren, as Veren was her 1st husband and she's listed as widow in the Salem Records when she marries Lt. Thomas Putnam.
posted by Kyle Dane
The earliest name in this family in my data is Joseph Putnam. Nothing to confirm this person was his parent or to confirm the merge of Veren-12 and Unknown-560081.

If Puritan Great Migration Project agrees it is OK with me to merge these two.

posted by Sam Duncan
The note N3169 seems to refer to https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-560081 and her husband Nat. Veren
posted on Veren-16 (merged) by Beryl Meehan
Veren-16 and Veren-12 appear to represent the same person because: appears to be same person
posted on Veren-12 (merged) by Beryl Meehan
PGM has been added as a co-manager of this profile. Please continue to manage as usual
posted by S (Hill) Willson
What is the source for her last name at birth being Ingersoll? Reading the profile, it appears that George Ingersoll called her the sister of his wife - not his sister. Torrey says Mary's last name was unknown. Perley in History of Salem says her last name is unknown. In fact, all of the sources Torrey cites say her last name was unknown. If the only thing tying her to the name Ingersoll is George's statement calling her "sister", and which later on in her Mary's bio, is clarified that she is his wife's sister, it appears to me that Mary's last name was not Ingersoll. George's wife's name (per Torrey) was Elizabeth, but her last name was not known.

If there are reliable sources showing her last name was Ingersoll, would you please add them to her profile?

posted on Ingersoll-50 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
edited by S (Hill) Willson
My records also say her last name is "Unknown" so I will change it here.
posted by Sam Duncan

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