John Vance (1794 - 1882)

Born 8 Nov 1794 in Cocke, Tennessee, USA

Ancestors

Husband of Sarah Lavinia (Perkins) Vance — married 10 Feb 1817 in Jackson, Madison, Tennessee, USA

Husband of Elizabeth (Campbell) Vance — married 7 Mar 1837 in , McDonough, Illinois, USA

Husband of Annie (Perkins) Vance — married 24 Aug 1870 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Territory, United States

Descendants

Died 24 Jan 1882 at age 87 in St. George, Washington, Utah, USA

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Biography

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Ancestral File Number

Ancestral File Number: 2D6K-S0

Residence

Residence:

Place: Pottawattamie, Pottawattamie, Iowa, USA^[1]

Event

Event: T6R5, Sec 32, NW/4, 16 Acres

Type: Property

Date: Bef 1846

Place: Macedonia (Webster), Hancock, Illinois, USA

Immigration

Immigration: Jedediah M. Grant/Willard Snow Company

Date: 4 Oct 1847

Place: , Great Salt Lake, Utah Territory^[2]

Census

Census:

Date: 1850

Place: , Great Salt Lake, Utah Territory^[3]

Census:

Date: 1860

Place: Great Salt Lake City, Great Salt Lake, Utah Territory^[4]

Census:

Date: 1870

Place: St. George, Washington, Utah Territory^[5]

Census:

Date: 1880

Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Territory^[6]

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Marriage

Husband: John Vance

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Wife: Elizabeth Campbell

Marriage:

Date: 7 Mar 1837

Place: , McDonough, Illinois, USA^[7]

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Husband: John Vance

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Wife: Annie Perkins

Marriage:

Date: 24 Aug 1870

Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah Territory^[8]

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1. ↑ Source: #S447 Data: Text: PROPERTY: CONT T6R5, Sec 32, NW/4, 16 Acres, Macedonia CONT CONT NAUVOO RECORDS: CONT Nauvoo Temple Endowment Register. p 149 CONT Members, LDS, 1830-1848, by Susan Easton Black, Vol 44, pp 230-234 CONT Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah, p 1222 CONT Record of Baptisms for the Dean, Nauvoo, by Black and Black, Vol 6, pp 3695-3606 CONT CONT HISTORY/HISTORIES: CONT Nauvoo Data Bank , 2 pp CONT CONT Name transcribed from Winter Quarters Wards Membership Lists 1846 - 1848. Taken from a variety of historical sources. They are not complete, and because of the difficulty reading handwriting, may not be entirely accurate. Most of the lists seem to be from the winter of 1846 - 47, but some are from later. In addition, people often moved to better housing, thus changing wards. Sources for these lists are: bishop's reports, high council meeting minutes, tithing records, and 'census' reports of widow, soldier's wives and other unassigned members of wards. The original records are available at the Historical Department, Archives Division, of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City Utah. CONT CONT Note: Stated in record above; "Bishop" CONT CONT Name transcribed from A "Grave" Experience at the Mormon Pioneer Winter Quarters Cemetery. By Carlyle B. Jensen and Gail Geo. Holmes, Published by Authors October 1999. Quoted from with permission of Gail Geo. Holmes. The record is a "List of the Deaths and Burials in the Camp of Israel at Cutler's Park, after Sept, 1846. Spellings, dates and etc. are as written in the original record - mistakes and all." CONT CONT Stated in record above for Lehi M. Vance son of John Vance, "Lehi M. Vance; son of John and Elizabeth; deceased Oct. 9, 1846; disease Canker; birthplace Illinois; birthdate Sept. 12, 1846; grave no. 21" CONT CONT Name transcribed from the Iowa Branches Members Index 1839 - 1859, Volumes I & II by Ronald G. Watt. Historical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 1991. Copyright by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. CONT CONT Note: Stated in record above, "Priesthood: Bishop, 24 July 1846, V. 1 p. 4"
2. ↑ Source: #S479 Data: Text: Source: CONT Vance, John, Autobiographical sketch, in St. George Stake, High Priest Quorum Genealogical Records, 1872-1906, reel 6039, 74, in Record of Members Collection 1836-1970. CONT CONT Available at the following institutions: Church Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah CONT CONT -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONT CONT Source of Trail Excerpt: Vance, John, Journal 1847 June-Oct.; 1849. CONT CONT Available at the following institutions: Church Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah CONT CONT Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847–1868 CONT CONT Excerpt: Winter Quarters June 15th 1847 CONT CONT Tuesday left for the Bear River vally or some other place W. of the Rockey mts. Crossed the Horn & organised on the 18th friday, in Capt. [Jedediah M.] Grants Hundred & appointed Capt. of the 1st 10 in the 2nd 50. CONT CONT Sat. 20th <19th> Rolld 12 miles to a point on the Road where it approaches near the Platt[e] Rivr[,] where we raised a liberty pole & Stoped Over Sunday <& Monday> while the balan [balance] of the camp arived, who brought word that Br. Jacob Weatherby was shot by an Indian On his return from the Horn to Winter Quarters with Some Sisters who ware Sent back by the advise [of] P[arley]. P. Prt. [Pratt]. Shot on Sat. & died on Monday 1/2 after 8 A.M. and buried on the W. Bank of the Horn by Capt Grant CONT CONT Tuesday 22nd Rolld westward up the Platt[e] River 14 miles to where the Road first touches the River again. Orders of 1st days travel P.P. Pratts company in the front double file, The Artillery Single file on the Right of Parleys Co. Elder Taylors company & in doublefile on the right of Artillery Capt Grants Co. in the Rear of Parleys in Doublefile[,] Capt Smoots Co in Rear of Tailors in double file—the 1st 50 occupying the left & the 2nd the Right hand road— CONT CONT W. 23rd Mad[e] 10 miles to Shill [Shell] creek. Order of Traveling—Parl[e]ys Co in front double file[,] Tailors in his rear. Grant's in Rear of Tailors & and Smoots in rear of that, all in double file. In the above Capt Hunters Co. is called Taylors Co. & Capt Spencers Company Parleys[.] this days travel was very tedious & perplexing to Grants & Smoots Cos. by reason as they thought of unnecessary delay by Tailors [Taylor's] Co. causing Th 24 Parleys Co to camp 4 or 5 miles in advance of Tailor & Grant & Smoot 3/4 in the rear of Grants CONT CONT Th 24th Rold at 7 ockl. [o'clock] passing by Tailors Co[,] they being not ready for the road, when observed by Elder Tailor he sent a messenger to Capt Grant requiring him to stop. President John Smith & Capt Grant confe[r]ed together & concluded to roll on, which caused Elder Tailor To visit them himself, but in vain for the Co. made no stop so we had P.P.P. in front, Gr. next Tailor next & Smoot in the rear. in which order <Rolled> about 14 miles & finding a Suitable location, haltd at about 2 oclock Calld a meeting. Elder Tailor Prefered a charge against President John Young & Capt Grant for rejecting his message & request to Halt & fall in his rear[.] Upon investigation, President Young and Capt. Grant Seamed to feel convicted of error[,] acknowledged thimselves in fault, asked Elder Tailors pardon which was granted and all seemed to enjoy a good Spirit. Parley said he felt better than he had since he left Winter Quarters CONT CONT Fr. 25th Elder Tailor took his place in rear of Parleys[.] we rold in doublefile 9 miles to Loup fork. grass very short & dry. CONT CONT I will here say, Tuesday, Wednesday & Thr. our 2nd 50 was very much exposed to the dust in traveling as the wind was all the time <in the> South so this morning it was directed by capt. Grant to <change the order by reversing> the times which exposed the 1st 50 equally as much. CONT CONT Sat 26th Rold at 9. wind Still South. Capt Grant ordered the 2nd 50 again in the dust but fortunately for them the about Eleven Oclock the wind shifted as quick almost as thought, and the way it paid back[,] the 1st 50 was gratifying to the 2nd even to great joy. I verily thought if the Devil controls the wind it was the best thing the old fellow ever done in his life, this day all tho we had a bridge to cross which threw us into single file we made about 17 miles and camped on the bank of [a] beautiful stream cald [called] looking glass[.] Just rain enough in the evening to lay the dust CONT CONT Sunday 27th according to previous arangement we remained in camp, had a Meeting[.] Patriarch Smith and President John Young & others spoke on various subjects. Parley, Tailor & others went forward as far as the farms, conferd with some who had traded to Fort Laramy [Laramie] by way of heading the loup fork who recommended it as nearest and best rout[.] the council met Sunday evening & agreed to try the Same[.] Parley said we might find a better road and plenty of game & build up make a Location and build up a place equal to Winter Quarters. The council also agreed to change the position of the company in traveling, (viz) for Parley to leave the front & fall back to the rear, leaving the front for Tailor one week. Then Tailor to fall back to the rear leaving the front for Grant So changing allternately throughout the camp weekly that all might share of the advantages and disadvantages etc of the front, rear & Middle. CONT CONT Mo 28th. we advanced acordingly with Tailor in the front with one cannon in Front[,] the other remaind with Grant[,] Rich in the rear when ariving at or near the farms at a Paunee vilage The vilage 14 miles west of the farms, or missionary station, which was burnt last fall by the Indians[,] he[,] Tailor, discharged the cannon 2 or 3 times which no doubt was heard by many Indians as it was said by the farms that a war party was seen the day befor & they no doubt had a sharp eye to the movements of our camp So we proceeded about 8 miles up the Loup fork & pitched our tents for the night in a Settlement of farmers. CONT CONT Tuesday 29th. proceed about 10 miles up said Loup bearing a little south of west, as also the 2 days previous. <Crossed Willow Creek> Passed the burned village at 22 miles. CONT CONT Wed. 30th. Roled about 6 miles[,] came to small Stream[,] very ugly to cross. we pioneered some miles & became rather discouraged with our new rout, as it seemed to become more & more broken So when all had rolled up, the attention of our councel was directed across the North fork So while they are hunting the ford I make these notes. CONT CONT Th July 1st crossed over said River. Tailor & Grant rold out say 4 miles S.W. broken & Sandy, directing our course to main Platt. CONT CONT Fr. 2nd. Rolled 11 miles[.] Still broken & Sandy & heavy and Slavish traveling[,] heavy rain in the evening[.] Tailor lost horse & pistols. CONT CONT Sat. 3rd bad slough each 100 made their own ford and advanced say 9 miles over beautiful smooth & dry Prairy[.] reached a small stream of Big Platt[e], thought by some to be what is called wood River. CONT CONT Su 4th. remained in camp. many washed[,] some made such repairs as was necessary[.] had an excellent meeting[,] good instructions by P.P.P. and Elder Tailor. recommended by Parl[e]y that each 100 make all consistant speed in traveling & it be no crime for any one to go ahead of the other so as not to be in the way of those whose right it was to go in advance of it. Said that 2 weeks experiance had convinced him of more than he had anticipated (viz) that a company of 600 waggons could with immense herds of cattle travel with as much speed as a few waggons, & never be in each others way. CONT CONT Mo 5th. crossed said little stream[.] all being ready & started at the report of the cannon. Parley and Grant in front each in double file[,] Tailor and Smoot following in the same order[,] a little south of W[.] beautiful smooth Prary and dry[,] say 15 miles. Campt all in Neighborhood on Big Platt. CONT CONT Tu. 6th. Advanced, Parley in front[.] Rich in his Rear[,] Grant on the left of Rich[,] Taylor in the Rear of Rich & Smoot in Rear of Grant.[.] after dinner Grant fell in Rear of Parley & Rich[,] Tailor hurryed up some teams & drove in[,] confusing & deranging the teams much[.] Tailor contended for the road & grant Rolled to the Right & beat his own Roads all in doublefile 16 miles & pitched on the Big Platt. Beautifull country all day. CONT CONT Wed. 7th Parley[,] Tailor & Rich in front. Grant in Rear, Smoot back with broken waggon. Grant passed Rich afternoon broken axle. The country today not so desireable. Buffelo [buffalo] sign plenty Such as dry chips[.] Rolled about 14 miles. Camptd, Slough water, ½ mile N of Bill Plat[.] Parley and Taylor perhaps 3 or 4 ms in advance[,] Smoot and Rich perhaps as far behind[.] Now 200 miles from Winter Quarters. CONT CONT Th. 8th advanced about 7 miles & dined on Tailors heels at a Small Stream made bridges & and Rolled due W. Say 14 miles in all[.] 2 hunters out saw & chased large herd of buffolo[,] Shot 3 times but lost the chase[.] Brother Loves waggon wheel broke down[.] Some very good farming land. Campt 1 mile N. of Big Platt[e]. All camps in view[.] Herd broke out yd. at night. CONT CONT Fr. 9th lay in camp till 12; repaired Loves waggon wheel. The other camps all out of sight. Rold Say 9 miles. Best farming land in all creation. [illegible] by badly direction W. turned in S. to River[,] heavy rolling, death to teams. bad economy this day. no timber here[,] good feed. CONT CONT Sat. 10th Set out early[,] rolled till about 2 oclock, pitched on the bank of the Ptt [Platte] again a few rods above the ballance of the camp[,] Say 11 miles[,] Bearing as much as N. W. [.] beautiful country. Best Kind farming land[.] many washed this evening, some burned coal etc CONT CONT Su 11 lay in camp as usua[l,] had meeting[,] addressed by Rich[,] Tailor and Grant. many Waggon Tire Set[.] 2 or 3 Buffelo calves Kild [killed]. large herds Seen[,] Some say 5,000. 4 hunters appointed in Grants company. CONT CONT Mo 12th. Rolled early[,] made good drive[,] say 14 miles[,] Some N. of W. much buffalo Seen[.] many Sulphur Beds[,] country not altogether so good as 2 last days, all camped close. CONT CONT Tu 13th. early start good country all day but much cut up by Buffelo & cut to peaces with their roads[.] word has arived from the hunters Just as we got in encamped of one buffelo certain & perhaps more[.] we have made certainly as much as 16 miles & are now on the bank of the Big Platt[e.]. grant, Parley Smoot & Rich in camp[,] Smoot and Tailor not up. Two small waggons Sent for a buffelo. returned some time in the night & left in the waggon on each Side of the gap at the head of the Circle, Short time before day[,] the herd got alarmed mad[e] a heavy rush for the head gap, upset one waggon[,] Broke two Wheels. upset also one of the beef waggons, leaving our beef on the ground[,] herd rushed out but was persued & returned. The Picket Gard fired, Supposed to be at the brethren. CONT CONT Wed. 14th lay all day in camp repairing the breaches, doctoring the cattle whoes horn was nocked off & other ways hurt, however one cow died, one horse Killed having got his leg broke in the spree etc etc we started in the morning the word was, there was 3 more Buffeloes Killed & a waggon sent for them which returned in the evening reported the wolves had got the buffelo. I said good god. CONT CONT Th. 15th. Parley one day ahead Tailor about ½[.] Smoot Rolled by evening before Rich[,] rem[aine]d in camp with us and this morning we advanced in his Rear over the sand for [illegible] the bluff at this place [illegible] the river[.] made perhaps 9 miles [illegible] for the first time by 50s[,] the 2nd 50 gards & herds as follows. (viz) the capt. of fifty & 10 being responsible by regular turns, day about. CONT CONT Fr 16 first 50 Rolld out at half past 7 followed immediately by the Second Still sandy[,] no feed[,] the buffilo having swept everything[.] Passed this day 2 boiling Springs[,] one an extry ortiacle [extraordinary] both cold & good water. This 1st 50 Killed a buffelo which Detain[e]d them some. We passed them soon after dinner[,] rolld on to a Small creek[.] Camped at about 5 & the 1st 50 rolled into camp shortly aft—This day I will <Say> 10 miles N.of W. 10[.] about dark Capt. Grant called a Meeting of Capts inside the Ring while in Cession [session] & considering the case of Br. Woodward in regard to Blacksmith work, a dash was made among the horses about 2 rods from us & in one minute our herd being badly frightened, rushed for & passed through the east gap, we soon got round them & another fright took place in their front which caused a tremindiuous [tremendous] rush for the yard[.] some passed through & some went round, a portion we retained in the yard, and made an effort to rally the ballance but failed on foot[.] we procured horses immediately but Uncle John & others thought best not to pursue, lest their fright be increased, so we gave up the chore for the night CONT CONT Sat. 17th horsemen dispatched immediately up the river, at the distance of about 5 miles found & returned a portion of them[.] after examination we found our loss to be 51 head viz 40 work Cattle, 9 cows and 2 young bruets, diligent Search was made in every direction by horse & footmen, no discovery; Some however would not let their horses go. CONT CONT Su 18th Self dispatched by Capt. Grant to let the other companies know our misfortune. found them about 20 miles ahead. They called the council convened, agreed to wait & help us hunt & in case they could not be found, then do the next best thing, returned found no inteligenced from by any. CONT CONT Mo 19th Several companies Sent out in different directions; 14 a1so sent from the front camps. hunted through the day & lay with us at Knight no inteligence CONT CONT Tuesday 19th. 4 men dispatched to take a N. East direction hunt as far as the head of wood River thence down to mouth then return up the river[.] we then went to yoked up cows & shift round till we made out [our] team to move[.] advanced this day Say 11 miles CONT CONT W. 20 Rolled till noon met by a Br. from Parleys camp with 15 yoking Oxen[.] Killed a buffelo calf & 2 large bulls and 1 deer. left one bull for the wolfs, & having our teams strengthened we rolled on Say 9 miles this day[.] Second 50 about 3 miles in rear. CONT CONT Th. 21st Rolled about 3 miles crossed cold creek or Bakers fork. Baker Killed another Buffelo 1 mile further & took the Bluff & Sand Say 2 miles entered bottom again overtook & passed the 1st 50; advanced Say 2 or 3 miles of Bottom[,] took sand ridge again 1 mile[,] campt in Bottom Say 11 Council called Br. Nobles reproved by Capt Grant for not waiting till we came up in morning CONT CONT Fr 22nd 2nd hundred in advance[.] Rolled Say 4 miles took the bluf[f] l½ miles through the Sand[.] dined on the bottom, afternoon passed 11 buffelo Killed by the companies in advance the day before with Shamefull and Sinfull wast, in one instance the hams of a yearlin or 2 year old cut out & left[.] beautiful Smooth bottom Some creeks & Slues [sloughs] not miry Say 14. swarms of Buffelo— CONT CONT Sat 23rd Rolled at 7 arived ½ past 8 at Parleys Camp opposite an encampment of Sue [Sioux] Indians located for hunting, they met the camp as warriors armed, and marched up in regular Battle order with a flag for war or peace. when finding we ware friendly. they then visited us both men[,] women & children on horse Back unarmed except occasionally a bow & some few a musket[.] they are the most [illegible] genteel and manly of any I have Seen, we was hindered some by them complementing & [illegible] them, some traded a little with them[,] ther was swarming along our lines alday for curiosity & trading purposes. our travel this day all bottom many creeks and slues but none very Bad[.] we made Say about 13[.] Four cattle hunters returned evening with 4 Oxen only obtained about 90 miles back[.] also 7 or 8 of our Pioneers met us having left their company at green river just three weeks previous CONT CONT Su 24th Rolld on Say 4 miles overtook Parl[e]y & the rest[.] we all rolled into camp, called a meeting in two hours[.] Made a law that we Sell no provisions to the Indians or anyone else at any price. finding Phinehas Young[,] a pioneer was going to continue to Winter Quarters[.] I now proceed to write a letter or two by him[.] Council called for the 100 by Capt grant who set forth the order of traveling which was to travel by 50s & change from front to Rear allternately once a week 7 Oclock for starting[,] 1 hour noon & Stop at 5—a matter of difficulty rehersed by & between Capt. Snow & CA Christman but not Settled. recommended by Capt. Grant to take it to a Bishops Court. CONT CONT Mo 25th Rolled at 10 past 7 in rear of all the companies[.] Good bottom except 1 mile Bluff or Sand ridge[.] made Say 19 miles Bank of River[,] good feed. Self Sick in afternoon. Br. Shed bossed the loose herd. Councel called by Capt Snow on the Subject of loose herd; the Capt of each ten to be responsible having the help of the boys, for the same, alternately by the day in traveling CONT CONT Tu 26th Capt. Thurston bossed the loose herd[.] good bottom, rolling started at 7. Indians on our lines all day[.] made Say 20. I will here observe the 2nd 50 broke axeltree yesturday & lay 4 miles in our rear & has not yet overtaken. Brother [Isaac] Grundy sick. CONT CONT 27th Rolled early good road great wind storm in evening[.] Rolled into camp at 5 good feed Say 20[.] 1st 50 rolled by this evening to lead their week. Uncle John says we must roll in morning one hour sooner than usual[.] Self Still not well tho [I] herded CONT CONT Th 28th Rolled say <at> about 6 in rear of 1st 50[.] Rough ground by the Buffelo 2 mile of Sand ridge, cool day[.] 20 [miles] we have seen no buffelo this week[,] nor Indians for the last two days[,] good feed CONT CONT Fr. 29th Rolled early, still rough by Buffelo. Sand ridge of l½ miles warm day but cool evening. this day we have had view of several remarkable forms of Bluffs, houses chimneys etc and have stoped opposite one visited by some of the boys having a spire or Peque, [peak] they say 100 feet high above the top of the bluff, which itself is 200 feet at least[.] this spire is about 8 x 12 ft Square composed of sandy clay & almost a Soft rock in which many hundred names are engraved, it is however in split up & broken condition & think it will be of short duration[,] not first rate country here[.] Say 10 ms CONT CONT Sa. 30th rolled ½ past 7[,] led Pigs, hot day. Self boss herd[.] had to drive back 3 miles, met Devenport a Pioneer[.] extensive bottom. Say 9[.] Let me here remark[,] I thought & felt that my rights ware [w]rested from me. because men had power and did not exercise it in righteousness, tho my health was very bad[,] the day warm & I had walked & was much fatigued, & by following the last Ten[,] I was thrown on a nearer rout & which led me to the river & excellent feed about 4 oclock[.] I there found I was in advance of the company of waggon, I halted, never thinking but they [illegible] roll up, but to my astonishment about 5 oclock I Saw them rolling into camp between 2 & 3 miles back, a sound from thence seamed to Strike my sense conveying this Idea[:] Sir we have no regard [for] your convenience but you must come at our nod. So I gethered up and drove down with much fatigue & labor[.] Say 10 CONT CONT Su Aug 1st gethered up & rolled up about 1 mile above where I had stoped the herd [the] evening before & rolled into camp[,] put up a forge[,] set 5 or 6 tire. Some washed etc. meeting called at 5 P.M. Capts Grant, Nobles & Snow also President Josp. Young. Spok[e] at Some length & put a heavy veto upon the Go ahead Spirit which had prevailed to an injurious extent all the time[.] fixed the time of Starting at 7 or ½ past. l½ hours noon camp at 6 etc. President Young prophesied in his own name that all these go ahead ones should fall in the rear before we cross the mountains, Some considerable said about Br. Woodwards case who had fallen back from the 1st 50 into the rear of my 10[,] complaining his load was too heavy & the 1st 50 would not help him, Br. Snow[,] Grant & perhaps others took part of his load so he is & has been <with us> Since friday last with us[.] Say miles 4 CONT CONT Mo 2nd Rolled ½ past 7. the most barron country we have passed through[,] prickley pare the principal gro[w]th in some places, some spots of grass howe'r to sustain our teams, very dusty[,]. Small Sprinkle of Rain at noon no good country, Say 16 CONT CONT Tu 3rd my hand trimbles with weakness. I am sick—have Kept my bed allday & eat nothing[.] this morning a call was made for a horse & buggy [to] go ahead and burn coal. Br. [Simpson David] Hufacre [Huffaker] ofered his buggy & offered a horse but it would not work in shafts. Br. Snow ask me to put it in one of my teams & let one out[.] I refused as my teamster was a female[.] Br. Phinehas Young said the only chance was for my family & things to to go into a waggon and let my buggy & horse go. I told him it was unreasonable as my waggons was crowded & heavy & I had given up a yoke of Oxen this morning which had been furnished from the front companies in consequence of our missfortune in losing our oxen & had put a pair of milch cows in their place which would cripple my team very much. I told him I had a two year old colt who works Kind whose services was free[,] also everything I had for the advancement of the camp on our Journey[.] Camped this evening on the North Side of a cottonwood grove. Say this day 18. CONT CONT Weds. 4th dispatched Brs. Case & Chrisman with Br. Huffakers Buggy & my Black Colt & Bay mare to go about 26 miles ahead to burn Coal. Passed this morning by a company of our Brethren from the army. (Mormon Battalion) Several women recd letters from their husbands so there was Joy in our lines for a while[.] This is a poor barron Sandy country[.] Still some scrubby cottonwood along the river. Capt Huffaker Bossed the herd[,] 2 cows and a calf left, Br. Grants cows[.] Say today 14. CONT CONT Th. 5th. Rolled late[,]. sandy barron & dusty[,] heavy rolling[,] Small sprinkle of rain at noon. Say 8. I campd in low bottom[,] found 3 of Tailors waggons failed for want of Team. CONT CONT Fri. 6th remained in camp, Self called on and write a letter to Parley in relation to our situation[.] Capt. Grant being not well[,] sent me to Pres. Young for dictation, who give the Ideas he wished [illegible] to [illegible] in my own language and Style and which reads as follows (viz) CONT CONT (Note: This important letter begins on the next page, but the following items are upside down on this page). CONT CONT Camp of Israel in the Wilderness Aug. 6th, 1847 CONT CONT President Pratt & Council: CONT CONT Dear Brethren, that you may know of our affairs and how we do. we beg leave to trouble you with a few lines. CONT CONT As a general thing we are blessed with Health, Peace & Prosperity, yet we are not able to make that proficiency in traveling which seams to be requisite on the present occasion. CONT CONT We are now about 10 miles below the Fort[,] our teams are weak & failing. our 1st 50 have failed to assist us even to the amt. of one yoke of Oxen, and have rolled ahead many miles leaving one or two companies between. CONT CONT Furthermore we are burthened with several hundred pounds of the effects of our Blacksmith who rightly belonged to that 50 and have fallen back on us because they refused to assist him (as he informs us). CONT CONT We do highly appreciate and feel grateful for the help recd. from our Br. in advance in consequence of our missfortune, and have endeavoured to use diligence and prudence to travel with them but have come short notwithstanding our anxiety. We are needing [illegible] work but owing to the Scarcity [illegible] we calculate to patch up and [illegible] on a few days in hopes to tan [illegible] the companies in advance before [illegible] the first place of good feed CONT CONT Yours respectfully in the N & ever CONT John [illegible] CONT J. M. [illegible] CONT by John [illegible] CONT CONT 1845 & 6 CONT CONT Recd from John Clark for land[,] one horse 50 CONT Mule 50 CONT Yoke of Steers 30 CONT Cash 20 CONT Cow 10 CONT Cash 30 CONT Store Cr 1 Barrel Salt[,] $3.35 CONT 2 flowerbarrels [flour barrels,] .50 CONT CONT Camp of Israel in the Wilderness Aug. 6th, 1847 CONT CONT Soon as the messenger was dispatched with the letter to Parley, Capt. Snow called the Camp together to determine whether we travel today or stop. the voice was taken which was to stop and lighten our waggons by put[t]ing out every thing of less consequence till we could roll with ease and save our teams. Voted that a committee be app'd [appointed] for that purpose. that the Capts compose that committee. upon reflection however this Seamed not to meet the approbation of the people so every man arranged his load as he thought best & become responsible for the rolling part[.] allmost every waggon was consisted [condensed] in its load but not much left out tho some talked of depositing some things when we reached the Fort which was not done. CONT CONT Sat. 7th Rolled not early. Sand very bad[.] Indians with us. Difficulty with Brs. Bean[,] Williams and Mayberry. came to old fort Laramie. watered & rested[,] no feed, crossed over to the S. side of the River, old fort about 150 ft. sqr. with many habitation[,] inside all in a state of ruin[.] Built with unburnt Brick & plastered with lime[.] Roled on 4 miles and overtook & passed Tailor & our 1st 50 in camp. poor feed. rolled into camp. Say 10. CONT CONT Councel called for the 100. the 1st 50 complaind that publick Sentiment & feeling was against their [page torn] because of an expression of Capt. Grant in [page torn] general Councel in relation to the [page torn] 2nd 50 had recd from them in consequence [page torn] Called, they also complained [page torn] recently Sent to Parley & Council [page torn] said but not much <:little> affected on [page torn] of our future traveling. councel closed [page torn] one CONT CONT [page torn] lay in camp. Smithwork for both 50s. [page torn] tire Set. Capt Grant went up to Parley [page torn] miles. on his return called a [page torn] meeting of the 100. good turnout. Capt [page torn] spoke at some length [page torn] the Subject of law [page torn] order as learned from [page torn] today 10 CONT CONT one item of law was if a man rebell or refused to obey his legal officer or Capt or in other words apostatise[,] his capt shall sease on a Sufficiency of his property to make good all damage sustained by his rebellion or apostacy—these companies organised by revelation cannot be disorganised legally even by a general councel of all the companies. There must be no shifting from 10 to 10[,] from 50 to 50 or 100 to 100 except in very Special cases & mutual consent & good recommendation, etc. etc. this day, Brs Bean[,] Williams & Mayberry called before Uncle John or Prest Young and Capt. Snow to answer a charge preferred by Self against them for the difficulty referred to in the notes of yesterday, which difficulty was in relation to traveling which terminated in an affray, deciding the parties ware all in fact had all done rong [wrong] & was requested to acknowledge the Same and submit to the former order of Traveling which Br. Mayberry done but Brs Bean & Williams refused CONT CONT Mo 9th. lay in camp till Say 2 oclock P.M. finished our Smithwork and rolled about 3 miles[,] Sand ridge (steep hill) [illegible] bottom Capt Grant & Br Woodward with 1st 50 in front. Smoot & one of Tailors 50 in our rear[,] heavy Rainstorm at Knight. CONT CONT Tu 10th herd mixed with Smoots[.] Self & 10 remained in camp to hunt a cow[,] rolled in evening[,] overtook company in camp[,] forge up shoeing ox. CONT CONT W. 11th having no feed we drive in herd all day <4 m [miles]> Roll at 6. Parley[,] Rich & our 1st 50 one day in front[,] Tailor & Smoot in rear & so we now leave the River take up a small run & enter the Blackhills[,] road firm[,] some rockey & broken[.] Say this <day> (no feed) 18 lay on a small run Between Tailor & Smoot CONT CONT Th 12th Tailor rolled in front, we next[,] Smoot remained in camp[,] firm but rough & stony road[,] Sharp gravel & Sand wearing the feet of our teams. this day about 2 Oclock passed the Larome [Laramie] Peak more timber than usual today, some pretty close pine. The most Broken Country presents its Self this evening I ever Saw & yet we have to pass through with our heavy loaded waggons & weak & tierd teams. one noble ox left today & 3 yesterday[.] passed one team of Tailors stoped with blind Staggers, etc. etc. Rolled into camp by side of our 1st 50 on a Stream running N.E. Say 15 ms. Rich & Tailors 2 50s here with us[,] Parley 10 ms. Ahead[,] Smoot 15 back[.] we take our herds 3 ms up & down the creek CONT CONT Fr. 13th lay in camp[,] set tire[,] & shod horses for 2nd 50[.] information reached us that Smoot lost 12 head of horses by Indians last knight, strengthened our guard & watched our herd on the range 3 ms down Stream CONT CONT Sa 14th Smoot called for yoke oxen which he had furnished in view of our missfortune, in consequence of the loss of his horses, cattle returned[.] President Young proposed to leave the cannon which met the approbation of Capts Grant & Snow, So we remain again in camp today[.] Self had 10 horseshoes put on & 3 waggon tire set & yesterday 5 and one ox shod behind, Smoot & Tailor passed us this morning so we are now in the rear CONT CONT Su 15th 2nd 50 Rolls out tremendous hill in forenoon <double team> both rough broken country all day[,] bad on cattles feet, no bate, no water[,] no rest & rolled till dark. Br Williams wife [Martha Jane] sick on road[.] Self & wife & Sister [Mary] gates Staid with & reached camp about 11 oclock[.] pretty good feed 1 mile up creak. Say today 18 ms. news that 4 of our Pioneers have reached Parleys camp have found a good country 38 ms S. W. Salt Lake, this morning, Br. Phinehas Young called on me for a hors in behalf of legal authority to go & see our Pioneers & send back teams to our relief, & obtained. CONT CONT Mo. 16th. Phinhas & Joseph pass us on their way[.] wrote letter to Wm P— in the afternoon[,] gethered up & about 5 Oclock rolled[.] was met immediately by 3 of our Pioneers direct from Bear River Valey[.] rolled on 1 m say & rolled onto camp[.] Capt Grant <Snow> re'd [received] a letter direct from Prest Brigham Young. CONT CONT Tu 17th after a little snow storm rolled say about 10 m[.] worst road we have had[,] broken & afternoon Stony Red hills & white poorest Kind of feed this evening[,] good spring[,] stockwater Scarce[,] Self herded CONT CONT W l8th Still rough & Stony white hills but not many red[.] Overtaken by Porter Rockwell a Pioneer on his return from our 1st 50[,] informed us of their loss of 8 yoke of Oxen[.] we stoped at a small creek about 2 Oclock[,] made out a communication to Prest B. Young & Councel in relation to our location, <Bear & Buffelo seen here> Nos amount of Teams [numbers of teams] No [number] Waggons, Horses, Cows etc. so it became somewhat late and we remain Say 8 ms CONT CONT Th 19th Rolled, the country before presented more level & even surface & much better road than for many days[.] passed several little streams but no feed, about 4 Oclock reached the Platt[e] River again, no feed not even sage[.] rolled on[,] some rain till dark, reached deer creek[,] rolled into camp[,] report good feed[.] Say today 18[.] Sister St John yoked up her cows this morning, but turned them out at noon. her team gave out, fell back. Br. Bird the only one of the 10 who remained with her, he had to leave her 2 ms back & returned with his own team & brought her in after dark accompanied by Br. Mayberry, who is complained of by Br. Bird as rendering him little or no service. CONT CONT Fr 20th lay in camp all day[,] several deer & Antelopes Killed[.] Tailors last 50 passed evening[.] Meeting called in evening by Capt. Snow who said he knew there was some dissatisfaction about our traveling[,] explained the why & wherefore he had ordered the travel as he had Said he would Keep us together & take us across the Mountain in good time[,] inquired whether any capt. wanted liberty to roll out when he got ready or whether they prefer in tens as before[.] Capt. Gates wished the privilege of rolling out[.] after Some little discussion decided we'd to change alternately from front to rear as tens. enquiry who will furnish Sister St John an ox till Jerry rest & [illegible]. Br Williams said he would carry 100 or 120 pounds for her[,] Captain Snow said good. enquiry will Capt Snow be Sustained in using any beast in the herd for the benefit of the camp at his own discretion[,] decided unanimous in the affirmative. CONT CONT Sat 21st. Rolled Still up the River[,] somewhat rough for river bottom[, ] rained & quite muddy[,] Say 14 found good feed cross River[,] Self garded. CONT CONT Su. 22nd Rolled pretty good road bet[t]er on river bottom[.] passed by 2 50s another came up as we rolled out & fell in our rear[.] Met Phinehas[,] directed us to good feed[.] Rolled in camp opposite ford. 3 other 50s in neighborhood[,] Parley 3 days ahead[.] Self herded[.] <From W[inter] Quarters 624 miles> Many Seamed much overjoyed even to exciting[.] much said about rolling ahead of others, my own feelings ware that we ought to call a meeting a</li>
3. ↑ Source: #S646 Page: film M432-919; pg. 78; dn 132/fn 131 Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 Data: Text: John Vance; age 56; m; w; farmer; $500; b. TN CONT Elizabeth Vance, age 51; f; w; b. TN CONT James Vance; age 24; m; w; b. IL CONT John Vance; age 16; m; w; b. IL CONT Martha Vance; age 12; f; w; b. IL; school CONT Mary E. Vance; age 7; f; w; b. IL</li>
4. ↑ Source: #S646 Page: film M653_1313; pg. 119; dn 685/fn 55 Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 Date: 26 Jun 1860 Note: 7th Ward Data: Text: ln 3; John Vance; age 64; m; w; farmer; $2000;/$700; b. TN CONT ln 4; Elizabeth Vance; age 60; f; w; b. TN CONT ln 5; Mary Vance; age 16; f; w; b. IL; school CONT ln 6; Susan Vance; age 16; f; Ind; b. UT; school CONT ln 7; Abish Vance; age 7; f; Ind.; b. UT; school</li>
5. ↑ Source: #S646 Page: Film M593_1613; pg. 400; dn 104/fn 88 Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 Date: 30 Jun 1870 Data: Text: ln 22; Vance, John; age 76; m; w; farmer; $1000/$500; b. TN CONT ln 23; Vance, Elizabeth; age 70; f; w; keeping house; b. KY</li>
6. ↑ Source: #S30 Page: Film NA T9-1337; FHL 1255337; pg. 58C Quality or Certainty of Data: 3 Note: 7th Ward Data: Text: John VANCE Self M Male W 86 TN Ret. Farmer PA US CONT Elizabeth VANCE Wife M Female W 80 TN Keeping House GA VA CONT Sarah LAWSON GDau S Female W 19 UT At Home PA TN</li>
7. ↑ Source: #S124 Page: film #456388 Quality or Certainty of Data: 3</li>
8. ↑ Source: #S23 </li>
9. ↑ First-hand information as remembered by Mary Hammond, Tuesday, December 31, 2013. Replace this citation if there is another source.</li></ol>

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• Source: S124 Abbreviation: Ordinance Index (TM) -25 Jan 2000 Edition Title: FamilySearch - Ordinance Index (TM) -25 Jan 2000 Edition Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2001 Repository: #R491 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y
• Repository: R491 Name: Family History Library Address: Family History Library CONT 35 North West Temple CONT Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA Name: Family History Library Address 1: 35 North West Temple City: Salt Lake City State: Utah Postal Code: 84150 Country: USA Phone Number: 801-240-2331
• Source: S2 Abbreviation: Family Records of JaAnna Nelson Title: Family Records of JaAnna Nelson Author: JaAnna Nelson Note: These are compiled records from many sources researched by JaAnna Jean Bowen Nelson Repository: #R494 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y
• Repository: R494 Name: Lynn Edward & JaAnna Jean Bowen Nelson Address: Lynn Edward & JaAnna Jean Bowen Nelson CONT 3835 West 2925 South CONT West Valley City, Utah 84120 USA Name: Lynn Edward & JaAnna Jean Bowen Nelson Address 1: 3835 West 2925 South City: West Valley City State: Utah Postal Code: 84120 Country: USA Phone Number: 801-968-4206 E-Mail Address: jaanna.nelson@gmail.com
• Source: S23 Abbreviation: FamilySearch Internet - Online Ordinance Index v5.0 Title: FamilySearch Internet - Online Ordinance Index v5.0 Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2001 Repository: #R501 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y 3
• Repository: R501 Name: FamilySearch Internet Address: FamilySearch Internet Name: FamilySearch Internet URL: http://www.familysearch.org/
• Source: S30 Media: Internet Database Abbreviation: FamilySearch Internet - 1880 US Census Index Title: FamilySearch Internet - 1880 US Census Index Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2001 Repository: #R501 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y
• Source: S447 Abbreviation: Early Latter-day Saints - A Mormon Trail Pioneer Database Title: Early Latter-day Saints - A Mormon Trail Pioneer Database Author: Nauvoo Land and Records Office Repository: #R395 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y
• Repository: R395 Name: Early LDS Internet Web Site Address: Early LDS Internet Web Site Name: Early LDS Internet Web Site URL: http://www.earlylds.com/index.html
• Source: S479 Abbreviation: Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847-1868 Title: Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847-1868 Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: SLC, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2007 Repository: #R426 Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y
• Repository: R426 Name: LDS Church Web Site Address: LDS Church Web Site CONT www.lds.org Name: LDS Church Web Site Address 1: www.lds.org
• Source: S646 Abbreviation: Ancestry Online Census Images Title: Ancestry Online Census Images Author: United States Census Office Publication: Washington, DC: The National Archives Repository: #R521 Paranthetical: N
• Repository: R521 Name: Ancestry.com Address: Ancestry.com CONT www.ancestry.com Name: Ancestry.com Address 1: www.ancestry.com
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