Harman Albertse Vedder (1635 - 1715)

Born 1635 in Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Descendants

Died 3 May 1715 at about age 80 in Schenectady, Albany, Province of New York

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HARMEN ALBERTSE VEDDER

Harmen Albertse means Harmen, son of Albert. Name also listed as Harmanus

Birth: 1630/1635^[1] in Amsterdam, Netherlands^[2]
Death: 1714/1715^[1]in Schenectady, Schenectady, New York^[2]

Harmen Albertse Vedder was born Bef. 1657 in probably Netherlands, and died before May 03, 1715 in probably Schenectady, NY. ^[3] He may actually be buried in Rotterdam, New York since the Vedder Family Cemetery (and historical plaque) naming Harmon Vedder are located at the back of the Rotterdam Square Mall in Rotterdam, New York.

The first European settlers of Niskayuna,a town in Schenectady County, New York, United States were Dutch colonists who chose to locate outside the manor of Rensselaerwyck to avoid the oversight of the patroons and the trading government of New Netherland. Harmon Vedder obtained a patent for some land here in 1664, soon after the founders in 1661 gained land in what developed as the village and city of Schenectady.^[4]

Among the early settlers were the Clute, Van Vranken, Vedder, Vrooman, Groot, Tymerson, Consaul, Pearse, Van Brookhoven, Claase, Jansen, and Krieger (Cregier) families, who were ethnic Dutch. Captain Martin Cregier, the first burgomaster of New Amsterdam, later settled in Niskayuna; he died in 1712.^[4][5]

Father Albert Vedder b. c 1610^[6]

Birth 1635 Harman Albertse Vedder was born in 1635 at of Beverwyck, now New York, New Netherland.

Marriage: circa 1662 He married Annatie Provoost circa 1662 at Schenectady, Albany County, New York.

(Witness) Baptism 28 July 1700 Harman Albertse Vedder was witnesses to the baptism of Anna Vedder on 28 July 1700 at First Reformed Dutch Church, Schenectady, Albany County, New York; witnesses were Harman Vedder and Diewer Wendel.^[7]

Death 3 May 1715 Harman Albertse Vedder died on 3 May 1715 at Schenectady, Albany County, New York.

His parents are: still researching

It's known in 1668 he was brother-in-law of or at least Johannes Provoost, secretary of Albany names him his brother in law. (maybe he was a son in law ?)

Marriage

Harmen married Annatje Provoost and they had at least three children who lived to adulthood:^[2]

Husband: Harmanus Albertse Vedder

Wife: Annatje Provoost (1642)^[1] Speculated to be Mohican

Marriage: 1670 (date calculated based on the birth date of the children)

Children:

1. Child Vedder, born circa 1662^[3] in Albany NY, died on 06-12-1662 in Albany NY.^[8]
2. Child Vedder, born circa 1665 ^[3]in Albany NY, died on 22-04-1665 in Albany NY.^[8]
3. Albert Vedder, born May 10, 1671 Albany or Schectady ^[2][1][3] d. August 01, 1753.^[3]
4. Child: Harmanus Vedder, born about March of 1672.^[2] alt: (1663-1735)^[1] d. August 13, 1785.^[3]

He married (1) ? (Speculated to be Mohican). He married (2) ? (Speculated to be Mohican).^[3]

1. Arent Vedder, born in late January or early February of 1673. or Arent Vedder (1665-1748) m. Sara Groot^[1][2]
2. Angenietje Vedder, b. Abt. 1684; d. April 1756. Church marriage on 24-11-1700 in Schenectady NY to Jan Danielse Van Antwerp, died on 26-01-1756.^[9][8]
3. Johannes Vedder b. Abt. 1685; d. Aft. January 04, 1749/50. m. Maria van der Fort^[8]
4. Corset Vedder, b. About 1686; d. Before September 20, 1748.^[8]

Timeline

Before 1657; Harmen emigrated from the Netherlands/Holland before or during 1657. In 1657 he sold his house in Albany, which was then located in the Province of New York.^[2]

1660: Harmen went back to Holland. Since he was a trader/merchant, it is assumed he went back to buy goods to ship them back to New York to sell or trade them.

About 1661, Harmen got married, apparently for the first time, to Annatje Provoost. The couple apparently had at least two very young children who died. One child died about December 5, 1662. Another child died about April 20, 1665. The children's names are unknown. ^[10] The Reformed Dutch Church records indicate that Harmen bought small caskets the next day after those estimated death dates.

In 1662, Harmen was one of the fifteen founders of Schenectady, New York.

1667: Harmen was living in Albany.

1668: Harmen again returned to Holland. He traveled with other merchants from the Province of New York. They purchased goods and chartered a ship to take themselves and their goods back to New York.

1670: Harmen married Annatje Provoost (date calculated based on birth date Harmen and Annatje Provoost Vedder had at least three children who lived to adulthood:^[2]

1. Albert Vedder, born May 10, 1671.
2. Harmanus Vedder, born about March of 1672.
3. Arent Vedder, born in late January or early February of 1673.

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1672: In Schenectady, Harmen built a two story brick house with a fireplace. The Vedder family lived on that land until 1832, when it was sold by Harmen's great grandson Johannes. That property contained a small Vedder family cemetery, which still exists today, adjacent to the Rotterdam Square Mall. Harmen Vedder may be buried there, but if so, there is no grave marker

1673: Harmen's wife Annatje Provoost Vedder apparently died about February 7, 1673, because on February 8, Harmen Vedder bought a casket for her from the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany.

1673: Harmen was appointed to be one of three magistrates for Schenectady.

1673-1684: At some point within the next 11 years, Harmen married another woman, whose name is unknown. She may have been a Mohawk Indian.^[2]

The couple had at least three children who lived to adulthood. They were:

1. Angenietje Vedder, born about 1684.
2. Johannes Vedder, born about 1685.
3. Corset Vedder, known as "Seth", born about 1686.

1690:Johannes and his brother Albert were carried away by the French and Indians to Canada February 9, 1690 but was later redeemed. ^[3]

1697: Harmen owned one slave.^[11]

1715: Death of Harman in Albany County, New York

His village lot on the north side of Union Street, was the same as occupied by the late Doct. Alexander G. Fonda, 51 ft. front and 404 ft. deep Amsterdam measure, extending to Front Street; be purchased it of the heirs of Reinier, son of dominee Schaets of Albany, after his massacre by the French and Indians in 1690.

His son Johannes occupied it after his death, which probably took place about the year 1715, for on the 3rd of May that year, Arent Vedder, his brother and sister petitioned the common council of Albany for the renewal of a release ("burnt at Schenectady when it was cut off") of a lot owned by their late father Harmen Vedder deceased, lying on the south side of the city of Albany.^[12]

Vedder Family Cemetery

The abandoned cemetery contains 13 identifiable headstones dating from between 1793 and 1829. It is not known if Harman is interred here. However, the inscription on the plaque reads:^[13]

Vedder Family Cemetery

This historic burial plot contains the remains of
descendants of Harmen Albertse Vedder,
an original settler of Schenectday.
He purchased the land and built a home in 1672.
Harmen died around 175 and is probably buried here.

After purchasing this site from Harmen's great-grandson
Johannes Vedder, Colonel David Schermerhorn Campbell

replaced the home with a 26 room mansion in 1832.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5} http://schermerhorn.info/getperson.php?personID=I8362&tree=skerm1
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8} http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=parker-zeller&id=I84
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7} Hugenot Ring: Van der Fort
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Austin A. Yates (1902). "Towns of the County". Schenectady County, New York: Its History to the Close of the Nineteenth Century. New York History Company.
5. ↑ Wikpedia: Niskayuna, New York
6. ↑ http://maybeesociety.org/MaySoc/g0/p184.htm
7. ↑ U.S., Dutch Reformed Church Records in Selected States, 1639-1989.
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4} * "Genealogy from a Dutch family Vedder/Veeder who came in 1652 from Amsterdam in The Netherlands to the state New York." Formerly published on website https://www.vedders.nl/, "Genealogieën van diverse families Vedder en Vedders en Vedderink, Verder, Fedder(s), Fidder, Ve(e)ders"; by Anton H. Vedders. Page is archived on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at https://web.archive.org/web/20210417033224/http://www.vedders.nl/vedusa/pg.htm
9. ↑ Vedders in America: Harmanus Vedder
10. ↑ This information comes from old records kept by the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany.
11. ↑ Burke, Thomas. Mohawk Frontier: The Dutch Community of Schenectady, NY 1661-1710.
12. ↑ Pearson, First Settlers of Schenectady, page 255.
13. ↑ All Over Albany: Vedder Family Cemetery
14. ↑ https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=23020

• Bielinski, Stefan. Harme Albertse Vedder, The People of Colonial Albany, New York State Museum website. (Archive)
• Burke, Thomas. Mohawk Frontier: The Dutch Community of Schenectady, NY 1661-1710
• Pearson, Jonathan. Contributions for the Genealogies of the Descendants of the First Settlers of the Patent and City of Schenectady, from 1662 to 1800. Albany, N.Y: J. Munsell, 1873.
• Wardell, Patricia A. Early Bergen County Families. File: BCFam-Veeder.pdf, "Vedder, Harmen Albertse." Accessed 06 Jul 2016.
• "Genealogy from a Dutch family Vedder/Veeder who came in 1652 from Amsterdam in The Netherlands to the state New York." Formerly published on website https://www.vedders.nl/, "Genealogieën van diverse families Vedder en Vedders en Vedderink, Verder, Fedder(s), Fidder, Ve(e)ders"; by Anton H. Vedders. Page is archived on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at https://web.archive.org/web/20210417033224/http://www.vedders.nl/vedusa/pg.htm

Acknowledgements

• WikiTree profile Vedder-41 created through the import of Vicki Norman family tree v2 (3).ged on Aug 1, 2012 by Vicki Norman.