Gerrit
"Gerret"
Victor
Born before in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Nederland
Ancestors 
Brother of
Victor Victors and Jannetje (Vicktor) Sterrenberg
Husband of
Stijntje (van den Bergh) Victor
— married
16 Jan 1667 in de Caep de Goede Hoop
Descendants 
Father of
Cornelis Victor and Jacobus Victor
Died
after age 71
in de Caep de Goede Hoop
Profile last modified
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Biography
Name
- Gerrit Victor [1]
Birth
Baptism
- Date: kind: Gerrit doopdatum: 15-01-1643
kerk: Oude Kerk, godsdienst: Hervormd
vader: Victers, Jan, moeder: Ellerts, Jannetjen
getuigen: Louwijs Pieters, Eefje Hendrix en Antonij Bellerts met Marrijtje Jacobs
(brachten 't kint Gerrit)[2]
Marriage
- Date: 16 January 1667 [3]
- Place: Cape of Good hope, Dutch Cape Colony [South Africa] [3][4]
- Groom: Gerrit Victor [3]
- Bride: Stijntje van den Bergh [3]
- "After 29 October 1697 Candas van Pattana and Gerrit Victor were in a de facto relationship I have assumed this relationship because their putative child, Christiaan, goes on to use Victor as his last name. While not conclusive evidence, it is true that many slave children born of white fathers identified themselves, or were identified by others, as children of their biological fathers in this way." [5]
Occupation
- Krankebesoeker - [6]
Events
- Date: 1696: Free man muster roll - 1696 - Gerrit Victor en Christina van den Bergh , Stellenbosch district, Cape of Good Hope[7]
- Date: "On 11 May 1697 Frans van Malabar and Candas van Pattana were sold by Pieter van Helsdingen to Albert Coopman, for Rds. 130." [5]
- Date: "On 29 October 1697 Candas van Pattana was sold by Albert Coopman to Gerrit Victor, for Rds. 100." [5]
Death
Will
- Testator(s): Gerret Victor
- Event date: 2 Julij 1714
- Event place: Cabo de Goede Hoop
- Inventaris van alle soodanige goederen als 'er bij wijlen mijn vader Gerret Victor zal:r nagelaten en tegenwoordig ten huijse van mij ondergesz: berustende zijn, namentlijk ...... [8]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 WikiTree profile Victor-244 created by Hendrik Dreyer May 7, 2016. Source:
- NGK G1 1/1, Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Kerken Boek (Bapt.), 1665-1695: ao 1667 Den 2 Octob. twe Comp' slaevinne kinderen het eene wiert genaemt Anthoni, de moeder Grietje, het ander Susan de moeder Catharyn, tot getuyge stont in persoon van den E. Raet Do. Victor, transcribed by Richard Ball, Norfolk, England, (May 2006), Genealogical Society of South Africa, eGSSA Branch http://www.eggsa.org/. Hereinafter cited as Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, Kerken Boek (Bapt.).
- ↑ Source:
- Amsterdam archief Baptism 15 January 1643 right page, last entry second column, bronverwijzing: DTB 7, p.351 Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Doopregister: NL-SAA-24335863Gerrit - 15-01-1643 - Oude Kerk - Hervormd - Victers, Jan - Ellerts, Jannetjen - DTB 7, p.351 - A28220000178
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Source:
- The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. Source: Cape Town Marriages 1665-1695, Cape Town Marriages 1689, [1]. This transcription has been made from photographs of the Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 603 - Cape Town baptisms, memberships and marriages 1665-1695, which is a photocopy the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-1/1. This photocopy was made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town Repository (VC series) and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series).
- ↑ Source:
- Catalog Record Item Number Film/Digital Note. South Africa, Cape Province, Cape Town, church records Images 1 - 51 Baptisms, memberships, marriages, 1665-1695
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 Source:
- Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Candas van Pattana.
- ↑ Source:
- The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. Source: Cape Town Baptisms 1677. Written by transcribed by Richard Ball and Corney Keller. Posted in Cape Town Baptisms 1665-1695, page 21. dito (24 Jan) baptisms.Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 603, Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk, baptisms 1665 to 1696.VC 603 is a photocopy made during the 1980s of the original, made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copy going to the Cape Town repository and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series).The original register is now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1 1/1.
- ↑ Source:
- The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. Source: Cape Muster Roll 1696 - Free Men. Written by transcribed by Corney Keller. Posted in Cape Archives VC Lists. page 173. Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 39, volume 1. The Muster Rolls (monsterrollen), preserved in the form of transcripts in the Cape Archives as VC 39-55 and 103, were apparently yearly lists of the inhabitants at the Cape, drawn up by Dutch East India Company (VOC) officials, and sent to the authorities in the Netherlands where they were preserved.
- ↑ Source: Seen and entered Aug 19, 2016 by Susanna de Bruyn.
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"After 29 October 1697 Candas van Pattana and Jacobus Victor were in a de facto relationship. In the resolution granting the emancipation request of their son, it is clearly stated that Jacobus was his father." - not Gerrit as indicated above. Gerrit bought her, but it seems his son had the relationship.
As for my comment - it seems the source you attached was changed since you attached it, as it probably said Gerrit was the father and then they changed it in the meantime. I had Jacobus as Christiaan's father, so thought I'd check your source, only to find it agreed with me instead of what was listed here. I am sure I saw the actual document stating parentage, but as I was focusing on Gerrit I didn't make a note of it.
One relationship that I do have the records of is that between Gerrit and his slave Hester, with whom he had 4 children. It seems that Christina died at the same time (approximately) as his first child was being born to Hester, and I have links to the Baptism as evidence: Hester: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZN4-WFN?i=45&cc=1478678 Caatje, Anna Magdalena, and Jannes: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZN4-WKD?i=50&cc=1478678 (I hope the links work.) I know how difficult it is to get ones head around an old part of a tree when you're exploring another section, but I also don't have the confidence yet to change it myself, especially without corroboration.
edited by Philip van der Walt
I went back to double check the baptism certificate on Christiaan's own profile page and noticed in the comments that this question has come up repeatedly over several years. Coming back to the reason for my original comment here: under the heading Marriage there is a comment relating to his relationship to Candas. Follow the source linked to that, and it says something completely different.
The baptism from 13 June 1613 you found for Jan Victors seems to say, Louwijs Pijters (opa ?) Stoolman or Stoelman ? (hard to figure out-read if it says opa or if maybe it's all one word or last name perhaps, so Spa.stoelman or stoolman (?)) & Stijntjen Jaspers, Fiktor Fiktorsz, sijn huijsfrou en oma ? So it could indeed mean the grandparents for some reason baptized the child named Jans (?) (or Hans ?)
What also puzzles me a bit about the info, is that Jan Victors seems to be a son of man named Victor, so the Victors is not a regular last name but a patronymic, his son Gerrit is born and baptized on 15 January 1643 as son of Jan Victors (it's transcribed as Victers), so normally his patronymic would be Jans or Jansz or something, unless he adopted Victor for Last name after his emigration to South Africa of course... scan right page, 15 January last entry
A bit busy now but will look for more later, it's a great find so my compliments ;)
Greets and hope it helps a bit, Bea
[S883] Franesco Uys Rootenberg, "Dutch Masters in the Pretorius bloodline", In the Stadsarchief Amsterdam we accordingly find the baptism of Gerrit VICTORS recorded on 15th January 1643 in Amsterdam as the son of Jan VICTERS (sic) and Jannetjen [Gerrits] BELLERTS, with his paternal grandfather, Lowijs VICTORS, his maternal grandmother, Elsjen HENDRIX, his uncle, Antoni BELLERTS and Marytjen JACOBS as godparents [footnote 71: Biografische Aantekeningen, in Oud-Holland, 1886, pp 220]. and on this image the last entry for 15 Jan 1643 - I can read Jan at the beginning and kind -Gerrit at the end. can you confirm this is correct please.