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Weldelphus (Von Thuringia) Thüringen

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Weldelphus (Wildelphe) "King of Thuringia, fictional person" Thüringen formerly Von Thuringia
Born [date unknown] [location unknown]
Son of and [mother unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
Von_Thuringia-12 created 2 Dec 2010 | Last modified
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Categories: Disputed Existence.

Non-existent person? Research suggests that this person may never have existed.
See narrative for details

"Mention of the likes of Hoger and Erpes, Wedelphus, and Meerwig (Merovech) as Thuringian rulers is sheer fantasy." (Angel, n.d.)[1]

Disputed Existence

Wedelphus and rulers before him are not historically correct.

Thuringian Rulers

See Basinas of the Thuringii (d. after 464) m. Basina (Lady) UNKNOWN (sometimes referred to as "Menia"; parents/origins UNKNOWN). No proven issue... chronology for brothers Berthar, Baderic and Hermanfrid is off... they have UNKNOWN origins. (See Cawley, 2006).[1]


For Weldelphus (fictional father of Basina, who's origins are UNKNOWN), see:

French, G.R. (1841). The ancestry of Her Majesty Queen Victoria and of His Royal Highness Prince Albert, (pp. 281). Web.

Gregory of Tours, "The History of the Franks"

  • should not be taken as prime authority
  • does mention Thuringians a bit.

"Letters of St. Boniface", missionary,

  • lack of info on Turingii
  • Boniface worked when the Turingii were subjugated by the Franks.

Gebser (2001)

  • appears to repeat the 19th century mistakes of Gustav Kosinna
  • subjects reader to pure fantasy.[2]

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On 4 Nov 2015 at 19:59 GMT Bree (Unknown) Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I finally get it! This is a false pedigree that stems from the fictional Pharamond,[1] that was promoted by Pope Pious (living 1400s)... in order to give Marcomer (living 388 AD), a false heritage.

On 21 Sep 2015 at 22:49 GMT Bree (Unknown) Anonymous wrote:


On 13 Sep 2014 at 14:23 GMT Roger Travis Jr. wrote:

Neither of the profiles proposed for merge has the correct LNAB. Can we find a version with the correct LNAB first?

On 13 Sep 2014 at 13:58 GMT Renee Malloy wrote:

Of Thuringia-39 and Von Thuringia-12 appear to represent the same person because: Appears to be same with minor name variation. Thank you for your consideration, Renee Malloy

On 24 Feb 2012 at 11:52 GMT Roger Travis Jr. wrote:

I find no evidence for even fanciful parentage from Chlodio.

On 2 Dec 2010 at 20:13 GMT Krissi (Hubbard) Love wrote:

King of Thuringians

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