The following notes were added by Vicki Norman in May 2015:
Note: I do not think Johannes was married to Geesie, it was Jan or Janetje Vrooman. or is Jan another name for Johannes?
Note: Discrepancy of Jan Hendrickse Vrooman's wife - was she Grietje Ryckman or Geesie Symonse Veeder? See discussion on: Rootsweb: Dutch Colonies: [2]
Under VEEDER, we find Pearson names Simon Volkertse Veeder alias de
Bakker as making his will Jan. 8, 1696/7 and mentioning the following
children: Pieter; Gerrit; Johannes; Volkert; Volkie m Barent Jane
Wemp; Geesie m Jan Hendrickse Vrooman; Magdalena m Willem Appel.[1]
"Jan Vrooman was the son of Hendrick Meese and married Geesie, d/o
Symon Volkertse Veeder, July 4, 1680, and had 15 children - 9 sons
and 6 daughters, most of whom attained maturity and left families. He
made his will April 24, 1732" [2]
The Vrooman/Vroman Family in America Book (and I[3] know this is loaded with errors including my own mother being listed as the child of her father's brother), states Jan Vrooman b. Feb 2, 1653, s/o Hendrick Meese Vrooman, m Geesie Veeder, d/o Symon Volkertse Veeder and they had 15 children, one of which was Jannetie Vrooman b. 07-23-1682. It goes on to state she married Andress Bratt (1680 - 1767) on 03-04-1705. It also goes on to state they had a daughter Magdalena Bratt who m. Johannes Schermerhorn. [4]
Biography
Name:
Johannes Hendrickse (Jan) "Jan" Vrooman
Janse Hendrickse Vrooman
Johannes Vrooman
Birth
Born August 5, 1653 in Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
Born February 17, 1652 in Leiden, South Holland, Netherlands
Born February 17, 1653 in Schenectady, Albany, New York, United States
Christening
Christening: : Date: 15 FEB 1652/3: Place: Leiden, South Holland, Netherlands
Marriage
Husband of Grietje S. Veeder — married July 4, 1680 in Schenectady County, New York
1680 04 Jul; Jan Vrooman, son of Hendrick Meese; Geesje Veeder, dau. of Simon[5]
Death
Died April 24, 1732 in Schenectady, Schenectady, New York
1694 09 Oct Johannes, Jan Vroman, Geesje Symense [Veeder]. Gerrit Symense [Veeder], Tryntje Helmerse [Otten].
1701 01 Jun katarina, Jan Vroman, Gesa Simons [Veeder]. Wit.: Pieter Simons [Veeder], Susanna Meinderts Wemp.
1703 17 Jan Bartholomeus, Johannes Vroman, Gesa Simons [Veeder]. Wit.: Volkert Simonson [Veeder], Grietye heemstraet.
1704. July 9. Magdalena. Ouders: Johans Vroman, Gesa Simonsen [Veeder]. [No witnesses recorded.] [7]
Note
Note: John, the second and youngest son of Hendrick Meese and brother of Adam, married July 4th, 1680, Geesje, daughter of Simon Vedder. He lived on the site of the depot of the New York Central and Hudson River Railroad; he died in 1732, having had ten sons and six daughters, of whom the greater number survived him
↑ Schenectady Marriages: [1] cites: Marriages printed in Genealogies of the Descendants of the First Settlers of Schenectady. Transcribed, Formatted and Submitted to Genealogy Trails by Foxie Hagerty.
↑ Pearson, Jonathan. "Extracts From the Doop-Boek, or Baptismal Register of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Schenectady, N. Y." In The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Vol. XVIII. Albany: J. Munsell, 78 State Street, 1864.
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Johannes Hendrickse by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Johannes Hendrickse:
Still waiting for confirmed will of 1732 for Jan Vrooman. The abstracts of wills in the New York State Historical Literature from Cornell university does not show Jan Vrooman. There is a ref. to "heirs of John Vroman.." in a will of John Dubar in 1636 but that is all. Jan was not recorded as Johannes.
Vrooman-151 and Vrooman-44 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. Thanks!
Vrooman-269 and Vrooman-44 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. Alternate birth is in the bio. Thanks!
Vrooman-44 and Vrooman-151 are not ready to be merged because: These do appear likely to be the same person, but let's make sure that we have identified all of his profiles (there seem to be at least three at the moment) -- and have verified that these aren't two different people who have been conflated, before marking one profile as NNS and proceeding with the merges.
Vrooman-151 and Vrooman-44 appear to represent the same person because: These men have the same birth & death dates and wife. I have done some addtl research and Johannes' father was Henrick Meese Vrooman, which also matches the Vrooman-44 profile. Will initiate a merge for Geesie.
"HendrickMeesen Vroman ym from Valkenburch (married) Jantien Wolters Dorheij dr. of Wolter Claeszen (Dorheij) from Vollenhoo" 31 Dec. 1648 (J.B.Glasbergen marr. in Valkenburg)
There is a German city "Dorheim" not too far away but no connections are known.
Hendrick did not marr. Geertruy Johannis.
Jan Hendrickse Vrooman bapt. 16 Feb. 1653
The will stated by Wickersham 24 Apr. 1732 is not confirmed.
In the Schenectady census of June 1697 only his wife Geesje Vroman is listed with 5 children.
As Jan bapt. in Dec. 1696 "Maria" one wonders where he was half a year later? Any ideas?
There is a German city "Dorheim" not too far away but no connections are known. Hendrick did not marr. Geertruy Johannis. Jan Hendrickse Vrooman bapt. 16 Feb. 1653 The will stated by Wickersham 24 Apr. 1732 is not confirmed. In the Schenectady census of June 1697 only his wife Geesje Vroman is listed with 5 children. As Jan bapt. in Dec. 1696 "Maria" one wonders where he was half a year later? Any ideas?