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Jacob Johann (Waggoner) Wagner (abt. 1717 - abt. 1784)

Jacob Johann Wagner formerly Waggoner
Born about in Oberalben, Kusel, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germanymap
Ancestors ancestors
Brother of [half] and [half]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married 1742 in Province of South Carolinamap
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Died about at about age 67 in Fairfield, South Carolina, United Statesmap
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Biography

Jacob (Waggoner) Wagner has German Roots.

Hans Waggoner. [1]

Born 1712[2]

Died

1790[3]
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Jacob (Waggoner) Wagner was a South Carolina colonist.

Residence South Carolina [4]


A Few excerpts from "The Mobleys and Their Connections" by William Woodward Dixon, published 1915 and now in the public domain:

...Hans Wagner participated in the troubles and war with the Cherokees. The Cherokees went on the war path, scalped some white settlers, burned their homes and took Fort Loudon. The second William Bull was then the Royal Lieutenant Governor of the Colony. He got together and mobilized a body of up country people with rifles and placed them under the command of Thomas Middleton. Francis Marion was among them. A force of British troops were sent under Colonel Grant to assist the up country people also.

The youngest son of the first South Carolina Moberley was Samuel, who married Mary Wagner daughter of Hans Wagner,and had four sons and eight daughters to live to maturity.

On the route, on the banks of the Yadkin River, they admitted into the caravan of travelers Hans Wagner, a Hollander. At the time his family consisted of himself and a number of daughters. He joined the Moberleys to immigrate to South Carolina for the better security of his family of daughters, recognizing at the same time that the gentle air of refinement of the Moberley men would be an educative and cultural force upon the lives of his family.

As stated the first S. Carolina Moberley and his sons and Hans Wagner with the riflemen and British troops went on long marches, engaged the indians in battle and put them to flight to a large Indian town. The whites followed them, burned their shacks to ashes. The Cherokee Chief, Attakullakulla (Leaning Chief) asked the whites for peace. Afterward he went to Charleston and smoked a pipe of peace with Gov. Bull, among an assembly of people in silence.

The Moberleys settled on what is known as Poplar Ridge, the Eastside of Beaver Creek. Hans Wagner and his family of girls, no boys, near Reedy Branch. Past the meridian of life he was so solicitous of their welfare that be constructed a strong fort of white oak logs, hewn twelve inches square, for their protection, and when there was danger from the Indians, the neighbors would gather there to defend themselves, with Hans Wagner and his girls. By certain means not very creditable to the Hamptons the Moberleys were fretted about their lands for a long while and moved a few miles from the place of their first location further to the East and built another fort, and near it erected later the Moblerley Meeting House which we will refer to later. Hans Wagner stood his ground against whatever potent influence the Hamptons had brought to bear on the Moberleys and with his girls held the fort until he got his grant confirmed. The Beams, another family were also harrassed in the same way by the Hamptons but held their ground.

Hans Wagner married five times. One of his wifes was a French woman, Marie DeLashmette. She was the mother of our ancestress, Mary Wagner, who married Samuel Mobley. Another wife of Hans Wagner was Elizabeth Johnstone. She was the mother of Nancy Agnes Wagner who married Capt Andrew McLean whose daughter Katie married John Mobley. Therefore it may , be well to note right here that the descendants of John Mobley and his wife Katie are descended from Hans Wagner through two wives, Marie DeLashmette and Elizabeth Johnstone.

Original GEDCOM data

Birth

1717
Oberalben, , Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany[5]

Death

1784/1786
Fairfield, , South Carolina, USA[6]

Notes

Note N128
He came to America from GERMANY with his brothers, in the 1700's and landed at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
He moved from Pennsylvania to Rowan County (now Davidson County), North Carolina He purchased land in 1753 in the Bethabara section in Forsyth (Old Rowan), North Carolina and later moved to Fairfield County, South Carolina Hans immigrated. Destination.

Sources

  1. Source: #S213 Death date: 1790 Death place: Residence date: Residence place: United States Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=sarmemberapps&h=668213&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
  2. Henry/Miller Family Tree on Ancestry.
  3. Source: #S213 Death date: 1790 Death place: Residence date: Residence place: United States Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=sarmemberapps&h=668213&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
  4. Source: #S213 Death date: 1790 Death place: Residence date: Residence place: United States Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=sarmemberapps&h=668213&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
  5. Source: #S-2125745986
  6. Source: #S-2125745986

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Stephanie Ledbetter for creating WikiTree profile Wagner-2464 through the import of Ledbetter01.ged on Jun 8, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Stephanie and others.
  • WikiTree profile Wagner-807 created through the import of My Family File072211.ged on Jul 25, 2011 by Grady Lucas. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Grady and others.




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Waggoner-2546 and Waggoner-1241 are not ready to be merged because: It is suggested that these are different people and one of them has been attached to the wrong wife. Setting as an unmerged match until it is better researched.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Waggoner-2546 and Waggoner-1241 appear to represent the same person because: I created the Jans Waggoner profile but realized its the same as the other one after seeing they married the same wife. Names and dates are close (Jans = Hans = Johann) and (1717 close to 1720)
posted by Steve Waggoner
edited by Steve Waggoner
Thanks Dave Rutherford for all the edits on the similar Wagner/Waggoner profiles!
posted by Matt Melcher
Waggoner-1241 and Wagner-807 appear to represent the same person because: Believe these men to be one and the same. Given names Hans (Johann) Jacob and LNAB likely Waggoner.

This was the South Carolina family, not the Jacob Wagner of North Carolina. There are indications that he may have been married up to five times.

posted by Dave Rutherford
I think the death date on Waggoner-1241 is wrong and needs to be corrected. And your bio says that Hans had five wives.

The death date on Waggoner-1241 is same as Wagner-801 but Isaac, son of Waggoner-1241 was not son of 801. I think he belongs as son of 807.

Found this as well: http://edenmartin.com/newsite2/books/Waggoner_History-1929-with-Additions.pdf

posted by Dave Rutherford
It appears unlikely to me that Wagner-807 and Waggoner-1241 are the same person. Although birth dates & place seem the same, they have different deaths, wives, etc.

It looks like this family needs much research and work (siblings, etc.).

posted by Kent Creamer
Waggoner-1241 and Wagner-801 link to the same Find A Grave. Which is correct?
posted by Matt Melcher
Do Wagner-807 and Waggoner-1241 represent the same person?
posted by Matt Melcher
Dates on this profile agree with Wagner-801 but the will for Wagner-801 is extant and does not show Isaac as his son.

I think this person Waggoner-1241 is actually a duplicate for Wagner-807 with which it shares the same birth place. I think the dates on Wagner-807 are probably correct. Original sources are hard to find, but Ancestry trees indicate this man had several wives including Ann Bocquette.

Unless there is objection, I propose to change the birth and death dates on this profile and propose a merge with Wagner-807.

posted by Dave Rutherford
Wagner-2464 and Wagner-807 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by Chris Douglas B.S.
I would love to see a documented source for the location of Hans Waggoner's birth, Oberalben,Kusel,Rheinland-Pfalz,Germany. He is my 5th great-grandfather.
posted by Eloise Smith

Unmerged matches › Jans Waggoner (abt.1720-1786)
Rejected matches › Jacob Wagner Sr. (1717-1799)

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