Peter Walter

Peter Walter (abt. 1610 - abt. 1688)

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Peter Walter
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Husband of — married before 1638 [location unknown]
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Biography

Birth

It is believed by many researchers that Peter was born in Munzthal but this is not confirmed.

1635 Marriage

In the Walter Neutzling French translation of the German chroncile of Georg Walter he shows Peter died about 1667 in Soucht and married Anne Stenger around 1635. [1]

Glassmaker

Georges in his chronicle says: "...these are my recollections of the earliest accounts that my ancestors recounted, concerning the glassworks of Munzthal founded by the direction of Pierre WALTER, our ancestor: This Pierre WALTER made glass at Munzthal at the time of the Swedish War, a war which lasted 30 years from 1618 to 1648. Also, he worked at Munzthal toward the end of the Swedish War. He had five (5) children of which the youngest, Adam Walter, had not yet been weaned. The mother Anna STENGER lived with her infants at Soucht. ... It is believed, therefore, it was closed because of the war and plunders of the Thirty Year War. Peter Walter and his wife and the last child, Adam Walter were on the way back to Soucht where they started working at the glassworks in Soucht." [1]

In a note from Etienne Stenger, he says: according to what parents and grandparents told George Walter, and the notations in the Suchter (Soucht) church, Peter made glass in Munzthal around 1644 so he must have been born around 1620. [2]

In a review of the chronicle, it points out the sources he was known to use, some additional sources that either shore up his writings or refute parts of them. The team of researchers who have been working on this chronicle do not know who wrote this review and have tried unsuccessfully to find the author via internet queries. Copied here are some of the work because it points out additional sources to be viewed. The parts used have been translated from their original French: [3]

"Georg Walter himself wrote about his youth, and there is no reason to doubt these indications. Regarding the various glassworks where he indicates working, I find (him) in the corresponding parish registers as Godfather..." [4]

"The Chronicle itself. The original, from the hand of George Walter, no longer exists. We are not sure either when it was written. From scattered explanations, in particular relating to the chairs of the glassmakers and construction in 1813 the Church of Gotzenbruck (the last date it gives), we can assume that the Chronicle was written around 1815, and he was therefore more than 70 years." [2]

"On the other hand, the date of publication is well known. The printed text ends with the following words: "extracts in the original style by Peter Berger; Paris, 1St January 1830 "." The publication was reproduced the same year by Joseph Völker in Sarreguemines printer, with an unknown print run. The 13-page booklet, each 23 lines, was distributed in the places mentioned, and was translated into German. In 1866, there ensued a reissue, on the occasion of the consecration of the new Church of Gotzenbruck. <Etienne Stenger> Die Errichtung der Glashutten in der area von Bitsch (= the founding of the glassworks in the region of Bitche), author unknown (J. H. A.), in Saarbrücker Gewerbeblatt fur industry, Handel und Verkehr, no. 3, pages 9 and 10." [2]

"Who was this Peter Berger, who brought this chronicle to print? (the reviewer goes through who he might be)... well we the family know who he is, he was the husband of Theresa the granddaughter of George dit Chambre Walter. " [2]

"George Walter was naturally not a researcher. Apart from the parish registers of Soucht, has consulted any document, he only reports what he has heard, seen and experienced. On the Foundation of the glassware and the village of Soucht, he is very careful and dates it from about 1620. There is not much mistaken, it comes to 1629. We know this date from Peter Dithmar, receiver of the County of Bitche, which in its book of accounts for that year, writes among other things: "it was granted to Leonard (Greiner) of Munschtahl 30 days of wood cut with Ingrun in Soucht mountain, to build a glassworks in accordance with the contract on 23 May of this year... ". [4]

Archives departmental Nancy, series B, no. 3231 Reproduced in A. D. Marcus, the glassmakers of the County of Bitche, Nancy 1887, page 196.

"What interests us as genealogists is the following question: who were the first glassmakers and where were they? Here again, the memory already cited of Thierry Alix comes to help. He said among other things: "to Holbach, there is a glass factory, in which all kinds of glasses with small tiles are made. The glassworkers from the country of Swabia "." Here, the "Swabian" designation should not be interpreted too narrowly."

"In 1585, this glass is moved to Munztahl, because of the lack of wood. There are attested Martin Greiner and Simon Stenger as glassmakers. In 1601, Martin Greiner paid 80 florins for him and his eight Associates: Stoffel Sigwart, Henzel Schürer, Ulrich Scheidhauer, Hans Schirer, Hans Greiner, Paulus Glaser, Endres Spessert and Heinrich Wincker."

"Martin Greiner dies in 1609. His widow, continues it, until their son Johann reaches ages and can resume it. In 1625, his son Nikolaus Leonhard already owns and work there also: Martin Sigwart, Adam Greiner, Andreas Stenger, Bastian Fleckenstein, Curz Betz, Georg de la Coure (probably George Hoff or Imhoff) and Samuel Legros. [5] After 1629, we know more about this glassware, and in 1661 we learn that it is closed for a long time. Only George Walter tells us that his grandfather Peter Walter worked again in 1644. (my notes added: in the book "Les Verreries du Comté de Bitche" par AD. MARCUS imprimé en 1887 he also indicates Peter is working there in 1644. He has relied on the Georges Walter chronicle for much of his book but does not cite this note as coming from Georges. ")

The reviewer continues: "Leonhard Greiner, founder of Soucht in 1629, may not have worked alone, he will take with him a number of Munzthal glass workers, which was very logical. Soucht Foundation therefore did not have its origin in Speckbronn, as Georg Walter says, although it is of course possible that a few glassmakers also came from there. ...

It is true that we don't know any more on the first glassmakers. Only Walter George, who read the old parish registers, teaches us that appear there until 1670 Stenger, Sauter and Greiner family names. But not too long for Sauter and Greiner. This is perhaps true in the parish registers, but the Sauter family was present as a master of glassware. It is certain that Veit Sauter was master of glassware from 1673 to 1680; as shown in the book of accounts of the receiver of Bitche, he pays for these years 125 francs to lease. [6] As workers are cited among others: Johann Betz, Adam Walter, Zyprian Greiner, Veit Sauter (who died on 14 June 1681). [7] It is only after Adam Walter may have run the glassware, in which his father, Peter, worked after closing of Munzthal."

"Move to the central question: whence came these glassmakers? Not far from Soucht (within 50 km) was Mattstall. This glass, we know that it was founded in 1556 by Ulrich Greiner of Finsterroth (in the South of Heilbronn). He himself wrote on the back of a letter in 1556: "Me, Ulrich Greiner of Finsterrot, recognizes... buy and do a glassware through the woods of Mattstall". [8] Same Christophe Greiner quoted in the Chronicle was the son of Balthasar Neulautern Glaser, descendant of the founders of this glassware, Melchior and Peter in 1505. [8]

It is the same of other families Stenger and Sigwart; We find them all in the glass factories South of Heilbronn. Here, we still encounter a curious being: Mathias Stenger, son of Hans and Sinnel NN., born about 1625 in Sachseln near Neulautern, and died around 1671 in Sachseln in Alsace!

It is therefore more than likely that there is a link between Finsterroth-Neulautern-Sachseln on the one hand, and Mattstall-Sachseln-Munzthal and other Joseph Feisthauer Soucht adds the following: "this home is all the more likely that there is a special report between Swabia and the villages of glassmakers, dialect which is different from the dialect of the other surrounding villages." [9]

"On the origin of the Walter family, the Chronicle brings us nothing. Peter Walter was for me since a long time the oldest glass of that name in the area. It's a family name formed from a name. Cannot connect to any region or province. Mr Antoine Stenger of Strasbourg (formerly at Vallerystahl) has pointed out to me some time ago the parish register of Marmoutier (Maursmunster) and sent me a copy, where acts on from glassmakers of Wolflingertal."

Death

He most likely died in Soucht or close to it as that is where is surviving son lived and died.

Children

  1. Gertrude Walter
  2. Pierre Walter
  3. Anna Walter
  4. Adam Walter
  5. Catherine Walter
  6. Leonard Walter possibly not proven

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Chronicle de Jean Georges dit Chambre Walter. Published by his granddaughter’s husband, Peter Berger in 1830. Laura Bozzay, who entered this profile has in her library partial translations in English, complete version in German, non-genealogical section translated into French, and photocopies of the published work from 1830. Here is a link to the French version without the genealogical tree section: http://wolf.greg.free.fr/documents/verriers.html.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Glassworks, Glassmaking Lineages, Glassmaker Life in Bitscherland Since 1550, Etienne Stenger published for 250 Year Celebration of Goetzenbruck in 1971. Laura Bozzay, who entered this profile has a 4 page translation from this work in her library.
  3. Research of Laura Bozzay
  4. 4.0 4.1 Review of chronicle, authors unknown. Research of Laura Bozzay
  5. cf. E Stenger, op. cit, pages 40 and following, and A.D. Marcus, op. cit., pages 49 and following.
  6. Archives departmental Nancy, series B, no. 3190, page 72
  7. Inserted in the parish of Bockenheim (Sarre-Union) register.
  8. 8.0 8.1 H. Robert Greiner, Augsburg, publication No. 14, page 23.
  9. Joseph Feisthauer in Soucht, village of the country of Bitche, page 5"

See also:

  • GenVerrE.com Databases and Eclats Verre multiple publications. Paid membership is required to access the databases and to receive copies of the publications. Datebases include birth, death, and marriage acts.
  • St Louis Crystallerie – St Louis-Bitche, Moselle, Lorraine, France archives
  • Les verreries du Comté de Bitche Essais Historique XV-XVIII siècles (Edition originale) Adolphe Marcus Edition Berger-Levrault 1887 et aussi Réédition Weibel, Strasbourg 1981

http://rakow.cmog.org/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=2211&recCount=50&recPointer=36&bibId=34747

  • Verreries et Verriers au Pays de Sarrebourg - Chronique Historique (Au Pays de Sarrebourg N° 3 Antoine Stenger Société d'Histoire et d'Archéologie de Lorraine, Sarrebourg 1989

http://rakow.cmog.org/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=2213&recCount=50&recPointer=1&bibId=33554



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