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John Warr (1841 - 1918)

John Warr
Born in South Newington, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdommap
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Husband of — married 5 Dec 1868 in Great Tew, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdommap
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Died at about age 77 in Barford St John, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdommap
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Biography

John Warr was born in 1841 at South Newington in Oxfordshire. He was the son of Joseph Warr and his wife Mary Bartlett.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

At the time of the 1841 census, John Warr was living at South Newington with Joseph and Mary Warr (presumably his parents) and their other children. His age was given as 1 month, implying a birth date in May 1841. [2]

John Warr was baptised at South Newington parish church on 9 August 1841, as the son of Joseph and Mary Warr, of South Newington. His father was a labourer. [3]

In 1851 John Warr was living at South Newington with his parents, Joseph and Mary, and their other children. His age was given as 8, implying a birth date in 1842 or 1843. His birthplace was given as Southnewton [that is, South Newington], Oxfordshire. [4]

In 1861 John was living in the High Street in South Newington with his parents and their other children. His age was given as 19, implying a birth date in 1841 or 1842. His birthplace was given as South Newington. He was an agricultural labourer. [6]

John Warr, bachelor, of full age, a carter, of South Newington, son of Joseph Warr, labourer; and Sarah Ann Gough, spinster, of full age, of Great Tew, daughter of John Gough, labourer; were married at the parish church of Great Tew on 5 December 1868. [5]

In 1881 John Warr was living at Halls Field Barn at Bye Hill in the parish of Milcombe in Oxfordshire with his wife Sarah A[nn] and their children. His age was given as 40, implying a birth date in 1840 or 1841. His birthplace was given as Southnewington. He was an agricultural labourer. [7]

In 1911 John Warr was living at Barford St John in Oxfordshire with his wife Sarah Ann, their unmarried son William, and their grandson Arthur Heydon. His age was given as 68, implying a birth date in 1842 or 1843. His birthplace was given as South Newington, Oxfordshire. He was formerly an agricultural labourer. It was stated that John and Sarah Ann had been married for 42 complete years and had had 9 children together, all of whom were still living. [8]

John died in 1918 age 76 in Banbury District (presumably at Barford St John).[9]

Research Notes

Why this John Warr might have died in 1842

Buried 17 APR 1842. South Newington,Oxf.

Note: based on S.N. parish records it appears that this John Warr was bp 9 Aug 1841 & was bu 17 Apr 1842 & that the next son (who appears in the 1851 census) was also named John Warr.

Why this John Warr did not die in 1842

I think that the understandable conclusion that the John Warr who was buried in April 1842 is this John Warr is actually wrong.

The child who was buried was 16 months old (in early April 1842); and so was probably born late in 1840; and at the time of the 1841 census, would have been about 6 months old. There is exactly such a child in the 1841 census in South Newington, born to James and Prudence Warr, and 6 months old. [10] The same couple had a child they called Jonathan in 1846, and in the 1851 census, only Jonathan, not John, appears.

On the other hand, the John Warr who is the son of Joseph and Mary Warr was said to be 1 month old at the time of the 1841 census. His age was not reported consistently in the census returns, but it's not impossible that the John Warr who appears in later censuses is the one born in 1841 rather than a later child of Joseph and Mary.

Betteridge-291 18:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

There is no civil birth registration record for another John Warr with mother's maiden name BARTLETT after 1841. (Hawkes-813 14:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC))

Sources

  1. General Register Office. https://www.gro.gov.uk. Birth Registration. WARR, JOHN; Mother's Maiden Surname: BARTLETT; GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 16 Page 15
  2. 2.0 2.1 England and Wales 1841 census (South Newington, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference HO 107/890 book 9 folio 7: Ancestry Record uki1841 #9446095
  3. 3.0 3.1 South Newington parish register of baptisms: Oxfordshire History Centre: reference BOD180_b_4: Ancestry Record 61057 #67196
  4. 4.0 4.1 England and Wales 1851 census (South Newington, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference HO 107/1733 folio 75v: Ancestry Record uki1851 #4204582
  5. 5.0 5.1 Great Tew parish register of marriages: Oxfordshire History Centre: reference PAR271/1/R3/4: Ancestry Record OxfordshireParishMarriages #1111415
  6. England and Wales 1861 census (South Newington, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference RG 9/913 folio 63v: Ancestry Record uki1861 #16342202
  7. England and Wales 1881 census (Milcombe, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference RG 11/1523 folio 8v: Ancestry Record uki1881 #18009932
  8. England and Wales 1911 census (Barford St John, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference RG 14/8266 schedule 70: Ancestry Record 1911England #51870035
  9. General Register Office. https://www.gro.gov.uk. Death Registration. WARR, JOHN; Age at death: 76; GRO Reference: 1918 M Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 1354
  10. England and Wales 1841 census (South Newington, Oxfordshire): The National Archives of the UK: reference HO 107/890 book 9 folio 3v: Ancestry Record uki1841 #9445927




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I think that this child, not a subsequent one, actually lived long after 1842, for the reasons set out in the research notes.
posted by Paul Betteridge

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