Helen (Warren) Hall (abt. 1527 - aft. 1559)

Born about 1527 in Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England

Ancestors

Wife of John Hall — married 19 Jan 1559 in St. Peter Cornhill, London, England

Descendants

Died after 19 Jan 1559 after about age 32 in London, England

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Confusion and Conclusion

Confusion:

According to the family tree published by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Helen Waryn/Warren and Ellen Waller/Waler are not the same person, and they married two different men called John Foote, one the father of the other. Mr. Lewis references 'Brent Ruesch's Research Notes. "Ellen Waller married John Foote, son of John Foote and Helen Warren, in 1550."^[1]

According to Myrtle Stevens Hyde in TAG Vol 58 page 165, the will of "Richard Warrene, otherwysse called Waller, of Bassingborne, county Cambridge [dated 28 March 1557, proved 2 May 1557, Archdeaconry of Ely]" and the will of his son Richard Warren [brother of Helen Warren] prove that Helen Warren is the same person as Helen Waller and she married John Foote. ^[2] Her spouse is John Foote of Royston, born 1530.

Conclusion:

A Will as proof of a relationship/identity is the acceptable evidence for making a conclusion regarding what is a correct relationship. In the first paragraph, research notes by Brent Ruesch are cited as the source, but we have no way of accessing the notes or knowing what evidence Brent Ruesch used in his research.

In the second paragraph, we have wills cited, which can be found in public records, and which makes the relationships and identity of Helen Waller/Warren crystal clear. There is no alternative but to accept the evidence of the will as the final proof of identity and relationship for Helen Waller/Warren, while noting the origin of alternative trees, which cannot be correct in light of the will. Dellinger-332

Biography

Helen (Warren) Hall was born in England.

Helen Warren was daughter of Richard Warren and his wife Alice and sister to a brother also named Richard Warren, probably born in Bassingborn, Cambridgeshire, England, about 1529.^[2]

"Helen Warren or Waller married John Foote^[2] and they had the following children:

• Alice 1549
• Aves 1553
• Robert 1553
• Elizabeth 1556
• John 1558^[2][3]

Helen/Ellen Waryn (or Warren), widow of John Foote, married Sgt. Trumpeter John Haull on 19 Jan. 1558/9 at St. Peter Cornhill in London, England.^[4] Sgt. Hall or Haull served as a court trumpeter in the court of Queen Elizabeth I. ^[4]

Notes

Note: Robert Foote is disproved^[4] as the husband of Helen Waryn [or of Helen Waller/Waler] and the father of Robert Foote who married Joane Brooke^[4] and his brother John Foote who married Joane's sister Margaret Brooke.^[3] The father of John and Robert Foote is proven to be John Foote, tallow chandler, by his will.^[4]

Note: Death date of 18 July 1558 for Helen is an error. 18 July 1558 is the date before which Helen's husband John Foote died. Helen's death date is unknown, but she was very much alive after her husband's death, as documented by the record of her second marriage to sergeant trumpeter John Hall in St Peter Cornhill in London on 19 Jan 1559. ^{[4] [5]}

Geography

"BASSINGBOURNE, a village and a parish in the district of Royston and county of Cambridge."

Sources

1. ↑ Marlyn Lewis, Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins entry for Helen Waller
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3} Myrtle Stevens Hyde, Ancestors of Nathaniel Foote -- Warren Line page 165-167, available at americanancestors.org
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} George E. McCracken, Nathaniel Foote's English Relatives, TAG 53(1977):193-206, available at americanancestors.org
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5} Janice Greene Valore, More on Nathaniel Foote's Ancestors, TAG 54(1978):99-101, available at americanancestors.org
5. ↑ https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/581815f6e93790eb7f2a9c0f/ellen-foote-john-haull-marriage-london-city-cornhill-1559-01-19?locale=en

See also:

• GB Historical GIS / University of Portsmouth, History of Bassingbourn in South Cambridgeshire | Map and description, A Vision of Britain through Time. , Date accessed: 10th September 2014