Samuel Weaver
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Samuel Weaver (abt. 1690 - abt. 1769)

Samuel Weaver
Born about in King William Parish, New Kent County, Colony of Virginiamap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married about 1737 in Colony of Virginiamap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 78 in Cumberland County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

Samuel Weaver was probably born about 1690-1700 based on the ages of his known children. His origins and the identity of his parents are unknown. See the Research Notes section for more details and theories.

Since there are very few records available for the time and place where this Samuel Weaver lived, we don’t have many facts about him and his life.

The major facts that we know are:

  • He died in Cumberland County, VA in 1769
  • He had at least 10 children (as ten were named in his will), but only one documented birth (The Douglas Register). See details in the Research Notes section
  • He had children from at least two relationships, with a known living spouse (Françoise L’Orange) at the time of his death
  • He lived on a farm his wife, Françoise L’Orange, inherited in the French/Huguenot Colony at Manakin Town, VA. Most of the remaining facts are aspects related to this last point.

Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

Samuel's Will

Samuel's will was written 16 Dec 1763 and probated on 18 Aug 1769, so it is estimated that he died around July 1769. [1] His handwritten will can be found here. Also, for easy access, his will is attached to this profile in the Images section. There were ten children mentioned in Samuel’s will in the following order:
  1. Daniel: He was the executor. Since he was listed first in the will, he may have been the oldest living son (born 1739). He has been confused with several other Daniel Weavers in the vicinity; no proof as to which Daniel he is.
  2. Samuel: confused with other Samuels; researchers believe he is the same Samuel Weaver married Elizabeth Williams in 1755
  3. John: has been confused with several other John Weavers
  4. Jesse: no further information is known
  5. Joseph: no further information is known
  6. David: He was born about 1745, fought in the Revolution and went to Oglethorpe County, Georgia and died there 1813
  7. Benjamin: He went to Fluvanna County, Virginia and died there 1805
  8. Elizabeth Rainaux: nothing else is known about her or the name of her husband
  9. Mary Drouin: nothing else is known about her; husband’s name was James Drouin; she may have also married a man named Benjamin O’Dell, but there is no proof.
  10. Sarah Chaudoin: her husband’s name was Francis/François Chaudoin. Three of their children are in The Douglas Register. Children went to Green County, Kentucky, Illinois, and Tennessee.
There were several enslaved persons listed in his will. Their names along with hyperlinks to their WikiTree profiles are:
  1. Amey Weaver
  2. Patt Weaver
  3. Dilcey Weaver
  4. Hannah Weaver
  5. Fanny Weaver

Research Notes

To keep this length of this profile manageable, additional research information covering the following can be found in this Appendix or Addendum
  • Timeline and Transactions
  • Conflation Issues
  • Key Unanswered Questions about Samuel
  • Naming Conventions

Profile Overview

This profile of Samuel Weaver of Manikintown, Virginia has been updated with the goal of presenting factual information resulting from “righteous” genealogy practices. We want this profile to become “the” source of truth about Samuel. This approach may seem a bit radical, but it has become necessary in order to reduce inaccuracies and to account for new information from Y-DNA and genetic genealogy. Readers of this profile will see a very different story than what they have typically seen on the internet in online family trees, Findagrave, and publications. Our goal is to show the facts and documented theories and hypotheses, rather than to reproduce and perpetuate unsourced information about Samuel and this early colonial family.
Several guiding principles we used when revising this profile are:
  • We will only attach WikiTree profiles when there is documented proof or a documented theory to prove the relationship existed. The proof and/or theories must be included in the profile in the Sources section or in another section like “Research Notes” or “Theories”, etc. Since hyperlinks can be broken or die or require paid memberships, it is preferable that images of the records or PDFs be uploaded to the profile, so the information is easily and predictably available to current and future researchers.
    • Documented proof means there is a bible, will, deed, probate, or other official record that supports the relationship.
    • Documented theory means someone has taken the time to create a cohesive, easy to understand, detailed explanation showing the logic and/or circumstantial evidence which supports the belief that the relationship existed. Any source documents used should be identified in the theory and uploaded to the profile.
We welcome everyone to share factual information and/or documented theories to contribute to this body of knowledge: our new Source of Truth about Samuel of Manikintown. For more information on WikiTree standards for reliable sources for projects managed by the US Southern Colonies Project, please see
Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

Parentage

Competing Theories of Samuel’s Origins
  • Theory A: This Samuel Weaver was the Samuel Weaver of St. Peter’s Parish in New Kent County (or perhaps the son of), who at some point became a widower, and then he moved to the King William Parish at Manakin Town. This theory is mostly supported by the proximity and relative age of Samuel of New Kent.
  • Theory B: This Samuel Weaver was a protestant French Huguenot immigrant of unknown parentage. This theory is supported by his presence living amongst the Huguenots at Manakin Town and his marriage to Francoise L’Orange, herself born to original settlers of the Huguenot colony.
  • Theory C: The default theory, if neither of the above are true, is that Samuel is probably a typical Anglican colonial Virginian of unknown parentage, but likely an English immigrant or descended from English immigrants.
The identities of Samuel Weaver’s parents are unknown. Many publications and online family trees and websites tout Samuel Weaver of New Kent VA as his father, but the reality is that there is no documented proof. We are learning from genetic genealogy that all men named Samuel Weaver are not necessarily related. Somewhere someone must have a theory about the identities of his parents, but they are unknown and undocumented at present. We welcome any proof or theories.
Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

Birth

One of the most debated topics is the date of Samuel’s birth. The fact is that Samuel’s birth date remains elusive. The closest we can say, considering all the supporting facts, is that Samuel was probably born somewhere between 1690 and 1710. We welcome any proof or theories.
The listed birth date of 14 Dec 1690 is interestingly the same date as that of the baptism of attached "sister" Elizabeth Weaver (bef.1690-). Her baptism and that of her siblings Martha Weaver (bef.1687-) and John Weaver (bef.1699-) are listed in the St. Peter's Parish Register. The baptism of Samuel on 14 Dec 1690 is not listed there next to Elizabeth, see The Vestry Book and Register of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent and James City Counties, Virginia
The reason for changing the status of the parents of Samuel Weaver to unknown is as follows
  • There is no known birth record of this Samuel Weaver.
  • Several online trees and publications mention Samuel Weaver of New Kent County as his father and Elizabeth Williams of New Kent County as his mother. After many years of research, the assertion that these are the parents of this particular Samuel Weaver cannot be confirmed. There is no known record of that couple having a child named Samuel.
  • All known records place this Samuel (the subject of this WikiTree profile) in King William Parish, which served the French Huguenot colony in Henrico County and subsequently the newly created counties of Goochland and Cumberland, which is downriver from New Kent.
Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

Marriage

We do know that Samuel Weaver married Françoise L’Orange in 1738. She was a French Huguenot and was previously married to Daniel Guerrant II and Nicholas Soullie.
  • Note: the English equivalent for the French name of Françoise is “Frances”. She was recorded as “Frances” in Samuel’s will.
It is likely that he was married at least once before he married Françoise, but the identity of that wife is unknown. Many researchers believe he was married to Mary Robinson, but further research indicates, as noted in the profile of Mary Robinson, that while it is possible her name may have been Mary, attributing the name Mary Robinson to Samuel Weaver’s unknown spouse is a mistake.
The reason for combining the two spouse(s) listed prior to Françoise L’Orange into one unknown spouse is as follows.
  • Several online trees and publications refer to Mary Robinson, daughter of Anthony Robinson and Mary Starkey of York County as his wife. After many years of research, it has become clear, as stated in her WikiTree profile, that this Mary Robinson is not the daughter of Anthony Robinson and Mary Starkey of York County.
  • The last name of Robinson in that profile is unsourced and cannot be confirmed, and it may be that the Mary Robinson above is the only source of the last name.
  • The source of the first name of Mary comes from the St Peter’s Parish registry entry “Mrs. Mary Weaver Dyed octo ye 27th, 1727.” This is the date of death used for Mary Robinson in many online trees. However, there is no indication of a maiden name nor is the identity of the husband for this Mrs. Mary Weaver indicated.
  • Research shows there were other Weavers who could have been married to this Mary.
  • Also, this entry in the registry would seem to indicate that Mary was a widow when she died. Had she been married, the entry in the registry would likely have read “Mary, wife of __________, died . . .”
Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

Burial

His burial location is unknown. Researchers have hunted for the grave of Samuel Weaver with no success. Presumably his grave included no permanent marker. Researchers should note that the Manakin Cemetery in Powhatan, Virginia did not exist in Samuel’s time. The earliest internment in the Manakin Cemetery was Thomas E. Depp who died 22 Mar 1872, more than 100 years after the death of Samuel.
Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.

DNA

2022 Y-DNA testing of a descendant of two descendants of Samuel Weaver revealed Haplogroup R-M269 Lineage 4 with Big Y STR R-BY184961. To see full Y-DNA results on FTDNA, click here and look at R-M269 Lineage 4 located about ¼ down the page. There are three other Y-DNA testers with the same Big Y result; it’s unclear on two of them as to how they may descend from Samuel of Manikintown or perhaps from his brother(s) or uncle(s). We are searching for additional male Weaver descendants to take the test so we can learn more. As we have new information, this page will be updated.

Sources

  1. County Court, Cumberland County, Virginia, Will books, with inventories and accounts, 1749-1887; general indexes to wills, 1749-1975, Will book, Vol. 1-2 1749-1792; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TH-G3N9-P), images 250-251.

See also:

  • Review this Appendix or Addendum for additional information on Samuel, a transaction timeline, unanswered questions, etc.
  • The 1769 Will of Samuel Weaver, County Court, Cumberland County, Virginia, Will books, with inventories and accounts, 1749-1887; general indexes to wills, 1749-1975, Will book, Vol. 1-2 1749-1792
  • The Douglas Register
  • The Vestry Book and Register of King William Parish covering New Kent and James Counties, Virginia, by C. G. Chamberlayne
  • Huguenot Emigration to Virginia, a PDF of a book published by the Virginia Historical Society
  • New River Notes about the Manikintown settlement
  • Turff & Twigg Volume one: The French Lands A Study of Ten Thousand Acres Donated by King William III to the French Refugees who Settled at Manakintowne on the Southern Bank of James River in the Colony of Virginia in 1700, by Priscilla Harris Cabel. 'This material is protected under copyright and not generally available online. It is available for purchase by clicking here.
  • The Huguenot, Publication 24 and 26. This material is protected under copyright and not generally available online. You can find a full index for The Huguenot by clicking here
  • "The English Weavers of Virginia" by Weaver and Crockerham. NOTE: this source was an extensive compilations of family trees attempting to trace all the descendants of Samuel Weaver of Martin's Hundred (Jamestown). While it is generally a good historical reference but has some genealogical errors and conflation regarding this Samuel Weaver's parentages and names of children. This material is no longer available online and there is no published source of new copies.
  • "Francis (Francois) Chaudoin of Manakin Town and Buckingham County, Virginia" by Allen Cameron & published in "Virginia Genealogist" in 1996 v40 #2&3. This material is protected under copyright and not generally available online. This issue is available for purchase here
  • Virginia, Wills and Probate Records 1652-1983 on ancestry.com citing Will Book#1 p461 on 2 pages for Will of Samuel Weaver, dated: 16 Dec 1763; recorded: 28 Aug 1769 Goochland/Cumberland County, Virginia
  • Cumberland County, Virginia Will Book#1 p16 Receipt recorded in September 1750 by Clerk of the Circuit Court
  • County Court, Cumberland County, Virginia, Deed books, 1749-1903 ; general indexes to deeds, 1749-1975, Deed books, no. 3-4, 1760-1771.; database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4H-CQ6T-K), images 288-289. 16 December 1763 Indenture between Samuel Weaver and his son Daniel Weaver of Cumberland County, of the one part, and John Pleasants Sr. of Henrico County, and his son John Pleasants Jr., of Cumberland County, of the other part, for the sale of a plantation tract of 200 acres and five enslaved persons.




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There are few more children who need their mother corrected. Please replace Francoise L'Orange Weaver with Unknown-26445 for the following:
  • Sarah Weaver Chaudoin Weaver-510
  • Elizabeth Weaver Rainaux Weaver-407
  • Mary Weaver Druine Weaver-469
  • John Weaver-441
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
"A few more children who need their mother corrected" has been done.
posted by Ken Spratlin
Thank you! Your help is very much appreciated
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Is the date of death known from a primary source? Appears from his Will he was deceased "before" 28 August 1769.
posted by Ken Spratlin
We dont have the exact date. The will was written Dec 1763 and probate Aug 1769. I updated the death date to be "about" July 1769
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
If the Will is believed to be his, please move it into the Biography as a subheading.
posted by Ken Spratlin
Yes, this is the will of Samuel the subject of this profile. I will move it to the Bio section
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Now that we have totally revised this profile to more accurately reflect what we do and don't know, there are several relationships which need to be removed from this profile.

Please remove the following Parents, Spouse and Children:

PARENTS

  • Weaver-505
  • Williams-2491

SPOUSE

  • Mary Robinson-1042

CHILDREN

  • Thomas Weaver-573
  • Hezekiah Weaver-420
  • William Weaver-581
  • James Weaver-1746
  • John Weaver-678
  • John Weaver-588
  • Joseph Weaver-613
  • Daniel Weaver-612
  • Mary Odell Weaver-583
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Do these children also get removed from their respective attached mothers?
posted by Ken Spratlin
Yes, please remove their respective mothers as well. Thanks
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Thank you Jim, I have removed the broken links. I left the FamilySearch link in the source list for now, as it does have some sources attached to it which may be useful to someone trying to clean up this profile. It has been flagged for research and profile improvement. If you have an interest in trying to tackle the clean up effort to make sure that every claim in the profile is supported by a reliable source, that would be great!
posted by Scott McClain
Thanks, Scott - much appreciated. Robert Weaver and I are in the process of totally revamping this profile and that also includes removing sources which have no records or documented theories to support it. For example; online trees which have either (1) no documentation, (2) erroneous documentation, (3) duplicate documentation, or (4) broken links.

Other examples include: U.S. and International Marriage Records and Family Data Collections as they have no back-up documentation or sources to support the claims.

posted by Jim Bass Jr.
JOURNAL ARTICLE: The Vestry Book of King William Parish, Va., 1707-1750, The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography - Vol. 13, No. 1 (Jul., 1905), pp. 65-80 (16 pages) - Published by: Virginia Historical Society - https://www.jstor.org/stable/4242726? (JSTOR.org is a free website but requires registration)

Pg. 76, List of Tithables of the Parish of King William for the Year 1733: Samuel Weaver, 1 Tithable Note: In this list, if a person paid 2 Tithable(s) - the name of the second person is listed, etc. so maybe this Samuel was still unmarried in 1733??? Perhaps someone else could read through these pages looking for clues. Thank you.

posted by Jackie Younge
I've been through the JSTOR pages from the Vestry Book multiple times. In the list of titheables from 1733 to 1738, there is one reference in to Samuel Weaver and the rest are Samuel Wever, all with showing one titheable. He isn't mentioned otherwise. I found an index to the full book and I think there may be a couple of more references in the full book, so I ordered a copy. I don't want to miss a clue.

The other day I posted a pdf of a page from The Douglas Register that I entitled Two Samuels, This is a list of King William Parish where you see a Sam Weaver, a Sam'l Weaver, Jr. (presumably in the same household as well as Samuel Wever, presumably in a separate household. These entries have numbers listed next to the entries, and most entries have a number next to them, like the list of titheables, but the Weavers are all listed with a number of zero next to them. I see no indication of what these numbers mean, but the it's pretty clear that in 1744 there were two different Samuel Weavers (not including Jr.). It's infuriating that the lists of titheables seem to end with 1738, before Daniel Weaver's 1739 birth to Francoise and Samuel and presumably prior to their marriage. There is no indication in this 1744 list as to which Sam was married to Francoise.

posted by Robert Weaver
edited by Robert Weaver
Do we consider U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 a bona fide source when the underlying document is a pedigree chart?
posted by Robert Weaver
That database is just a compilation of family histories & pedigree charts and is not considered a reliable source for pre-1700 profiles. It may provide useful clues for further research but on its own it is really not any more reliable than an unsourced Ancestry.com tree or pedigree chart.
posted by Scott McClain
I agree with Scott McClain that this database is just a compilation of family histories & pedigree charts and is not considered a reliable source for pre-1700 profiles. These are all good clues but not a documented source.
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
An unsourced change of the date of his second marriage was made to about 1716. The biography still says about 1700, also apparently unsourced. What is the source for the change to 1716, or is it an estimate?
posted by Ken Spratlin
An estimate as he could not have been 7 yrs old when he married
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
I just tried to find source [1] Ancestry Tree by Edmund West. It is a broken link. I did a search trying to find the tree but did not find it quickly. I then did a search on Ancestry for Samuel Weaver born 14 Dec 1690 in New Kent VA, and read the first 150 hits:
  • all the tree hits have the birth date unsourced.
  • there was one tree pointing to his Find a Grave memorial which lists that date, but the memorial is unsourced.
  • several attachments to trees of various persons' genealogy research notes and reports on the Weavers repeat the 14 Dec 1690 birth date for Samuel, but are unsourced.
  • some of the various persons' genealogy research notes and reports list alternatives of 1680, 1680-1690, and 1682 for birth dates. None are sourced, and appear to me to be estimates, though they don't say what they are based on.

During my search on Ancestry, I found this, which is interesting:

Page 403 of Register of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia, 1684–1786: (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3W-W9HS-5?i=321&cat=109808)

Eliz: : daug't to Sam: Weaver bap't : ye 14 of De-sem'r 1690

That can't be a coincidence!

posted by Ken Spratlin
edited by Ken Spratlin
If he were a twin to Eliz, then he would be listed in that register, so I agree that is no coincidence. Please correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge there is no evidence of:

1. his birth, 2. how old he was when he died, 3. who his parents were, 4. who his spouse(s) might have been prior to Francoise, 5. who the mother of his children were (besides Daniel), 6. no order to the ages to his children.

I would like to see this profile really cleaned up - cut loose the unproven parents, unproven spouse, unproven children

posted by Robert Weaver
Do we know for sure that the offspring of this Samuel Weaver are correct? I find it odd that, even with several wives, a man would name 3 sons "John", 2 sons "Joseph", 2 sons "Daniel", and 2 daughters "Mary". If would be great to see the records which document the identities of Samuel's children. If there are not any records, then I think it's extremely important to show the theories which support that these relationships exist. Where did the name Hezekiah come from?

Samuel's will names the following children: Daniel, Samu[el], John, Jesse, Joseph, David, Benjamin, Elizabeth Rainaux, Mary Drouin, and Sarah Choudoin. I think that the other children should be removed and only added back if the submitter/requestor can prove or document a theory as to why the other people should be shown as Samuel's children.

Thank you Jim

posted by Jim Bass Jr.
edited by Jim Bass Jr.
I agree Jim, see my post of 10/29/22
posted by Robert Weaver
Weaver-9935 and Weaver-499 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth/death dates/locatons
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
I want to push back on this whole narrative of which children to attach or detach. To my knowledge there is no evidence that proves that Samuel Weaver, born 14 Dec 1690 in King William Parish, New Kent County, Virginia, and Samuel Weaver of Manakin Town (Goochland County) are the same person. I suggest that there is a real possibility these Samuels are indeed two separate people.

There were two separate profiles when I originally submitted them in 2011, and those profiles have since been merged. While I don't remember all of the particulars before merger, as I recall there were only a couple of children listed for Samuel of New Kent, one of which was Joshua. Joshua was de-linked because he is not mentioned in the will of Samuel of Manakin, when in fact Joshua my indeed have been a son of Samuel of New Kent, if that Samuel was a separate person.

I have documentary evidence that I am descended from Samuel Weaver of Manakin Town, through son Benjamin. I have taken the Big Y 700 test on FTDNA and will be posting the kit number once the results are final. It is my understanding that another Robert Weaver, this one descended from Joshua, has also taken a test and our tests are NOT a match.

I would like to suggest that unless someone can prove that these two Samuels are one in the same, that we re-establish the old profiles until we can get some more Y DNA results. Comments?

posted by Robert Weaver
edited by Robert Weaver
I have needed to deconflate unwisely merged profiles a number of times. I recommend that the starting point, rather than creating a second profile, is to create separate biographies on THIS profile for Samuel A and Samuel B. You'll probably need, at least initially a third Biography for "Undetermined":. All the material in the biography should be assigned to A, B, or Undetermined. This is the time to make sure that as much material as possible is cited with inline citations. Most certainly the too-numerous children should be assigned to A, B. or Undetermined.

This is a pre-1700 profile, and therefore there must be documentation to justify creating a new profile. By taking the approach I suggested above, it will become clear over time whether one is dealing with one person, two persons, or even more. And when that has become clear, one already will have the documentation needed to justify creating an additional profile.

posted by Jack Day
edited by Jack Day
There are many children attached to this profile which do not appear in Samuel's 1769 will. The only children that do appear according to the transcription in the bio are: Daniel, Samuel, John, Jesse, Joseph, David, Benjamin, Elizabeth Rainaux, Mary Drouin, and Sarah Choudin. Unless someone is aware of a source establishing the connection to the others, I plan to detach them.

Also, we need to resolve potential duplicates and/or erroneous attachments for children Daniel, John, & Mary. If anyone is interested in collaborating on this effort, please weigh in.

posted by Scott McClain
Let's collaborate. I have been collaborating with Jim Bass for a couple of months now, so its time to connect with you too.
posted by Robert Weaver
What is the source for the claim that he married Mary Robinson? He can't have married her in 1697 or 1700, as he was only 10 in 17900 and she was only 6. Is there any reliable source which establishes that they ever married?
posted by Scott McClain
Good question. There is a lot of speculation in this profile.
posted by Robert Weaver
Hello - I see that Joshua Weaver is shown as Samuel's son. I have not found any documented sources which explain or substantiate this relationship. Would you mind sharing those sources and/or theory that would prove the relationship? Thank you.
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
This is an excellent question. Since Joshua is not named in the 1768 will (as transcribed), but is said to have lived until 1790, this connection is doubtful - the language of the will implies that all living sons were named. Unless anyone has a source documenting this connection, I plan to detach that son. Please weigh in if anyone objects.
posted by Scott McClain
Thanks, Scott. Much appreciated. I will likely add something to Joshua's page as well because many researchers have connected Joshua with Samuel; however, YDNA is showing a different story. We need a few more tests from male descendants of David Weaver and other known descendants of Samuel to confirm this with much higher confidence.
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Weaver-504 and Weaver-499 appear to represent the same person because: same name, exact same spouse (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/L'Orange-3), son David in process of merge,
posted by Teresa Downey
Weaver-504 and Weaver-499 do not represent the same person because: These are probably not the same Samuel Weaver. Some will say they are father and son. The fact is that other than proximity and the coincidence having the same name, there is no proof they are even related. I don't think the records exist to prove or disprove anything.
posted by Robert Weaver
Weaver-504 and Weaver-499 appear to represent the same person because: same name, exact same spouse, same parent's names, similar birth year and location, same death location, several children's names are same
posted by Teresa Downey
Weaver-8524 and Weaver-499 appear to represent the same person because: I believe these two are the same. Marriage to L'Orange. There is an additional daughter, Lucretia Weaver through whom I am descended.
posted by Amy Brooke
Hi Lindsay,

This profile really needs to be cleaned up after several merges. Need some help?

Shirley

This profile is a work-in-progress. Under the developing rules on historically-significant ancestors over 300-years-old supervisors are doing expedited merges. We need one manager to take primary responsibility for each profile. Management rights and/or trusted status may be terminated per policy. Please see http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Historically-significant_ancestors for more details. Please feel free to contact me with any questions as well. Thanks!
posted by Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie
This profile is a work-in-progress. Under the developing rules on historically-significant ancestors over 300-years-old supervisors are doing expedited merges. We need one manager to take primary responsibility for each profile. Management rights and/or trusted status may be terminated per policy. Please see http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Historically-significant_ancestors for more details. Please feel free to contact me with any questions as well. Thanks!
posted by Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie
, it may be that Samuel Weaver 499 is NOT the son of 504. I have been involved with this mystery for many years and the leading researcher I could find on this issue was Jeff Weaver from Virginia. Some years back I had Jeff go back through his notes and noted that there is no real established birth date for 499 (1707 is a guess to make it “fit” with 504 because it’s pretty clear 504’s date of birth was 1690 in New Kent in the Parish of St. Peters & St. Pauls. 504 has no documented offspring, he was matched to 499 based on general location and timeframe. The only records of 504 come from Parish of St. Peters & St. Pauls and the only records for 499 come from King William’s Parrish/Manikintown. Where/when 504 died and was buried is a mystery as is the where/when of the birth of 499
posted by Robert Weaver

Rejected matches › Samuel Weaver (1893-)