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Thomas Oliphant West Jr (abt. 1718 - abt. 1808)

Col. [uncertain] Thomas Oliphant [uncertain] West Jr [uncertain]
Born about in Chatham, North Carolina, British Colonial Americamap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died about at about age 90 in Chatham, North Carolina, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Research Notes

NOTE: This is not the son of Thomas West and Agnes Unknown. They did have a son by that name, but he was a different Thomas West.


See research notes by Ronny Roy at familysearch regarding the Thomas West who was the father of Thomas, Richard, Ignatius and John.[1]


Thomas Oliphant West. Given Name: Thomas Oliphant. Surname: West.

Died Y. 11 FEB 1808. Chatham, North Carolina, United States. Age: 89-90.


There are two Thomas Wests that appear in Chatham, North Carolina he 1790 US Census :

  • Thos West 2,1,3,-,2,8 (in between Ric'd West and Henry Ward)[2]
  • Thos West 2,2,4,-,3,11 (between Simon White and Ignatius West)[3]

In 1800, there is only one Thomas West in Chatham County, North Carolina, in Hillsborough:

  • Thomas West, -,-,-,-,1. | -,1, -, -, 1 | 8 enslaved persons; enumerated between James Kirby and Jacob Cumbar?[4]

Sources

  1. "Thomas West." #KLYD-1TX. Accessed 15 Mar. 2024.
  2. "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYY8-3HW7?cc=1803959&wc=3XTM-BXF%3A1584071002%2C1584071001%2C1584070607 : 14 May 2015), North Carolina > Chatham > Not Stated > image 3 of 20; citing NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  3. "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY8-SP3Q?cc=1803959&wc=3XTM-BXF%3A1584071002%2C1584071001%2C1584070607 : 14 May 2015), North Carolina > Chatham > Not Stated > image 10 of 20; citing NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  4. "United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R8C-GRH?cc=1804228&wc=3V1X-7Q1%3A1585148603%2C1585149434%2C1585148604 : 10 June 2015), North Carolina > Chatham > Hillsborough > image 32 of 84; citing NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  • Nettie Maize Griffin family bible notes




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West-16493 and West-7950 appear to represent the same person because: Same Person
posted by Joe Snow
West-16493 and West-7950 do not represent the same person because: family members do not match; see Ronny Roy's research notes on this family
posted by V Pounders
By 1664, West married Unity Croshaw, daughter of Major Joseph Croshaw of York, member of the House of Burgesses. The children of Colonel John and Unity Croshaw were:[6]

John West III; married Judith Armistead. Nathaniel West, married, as her second husband, Martha Woodard, widow of Gideon Macon and grandmother of Martha Washington. Anne West; married Henry Fox. Captain Thomas Oliphant West (1670 West Point, VA - 23 December 1740, New Kent, VA); married Agnes Frances Estes Burton (1670-1720). They had five children: Nathaniel (1692-1727), Col. Francis (1702-1786), Virginia Agnes West (1705-1750; married Richard Thomas Gregory (1713-1742)), Anne (1714-1780), and Thomas (1718-1808).[citation needed] Unity West (24 December 1658 - 12 May 1708, Elsing Green, King William County; married in 1676 George Thomas Martin (b. 1656).

West was said to have fathered a son with the Pamunkey leader Cockacoeske about 1656, several years before West's marriage to Unity Croshaw. The child became known as Captain John West.[7] Although there is evidence that Col. West was living apart from his wife in 1685,[8] the year before Cockacoeske's death, the reasons for their separation remain unknown.

This is from his alleged father Wikipedia page. The source they are using is Dorman, John Frederick, Adventurers of Purse and Person, 4th ed., v.3, p.490

posted by Paul Tolleson III
If anyone can verify that as a true source let me know, not sure about the Indian references but that pertains to his brother John West III, who seems to be a half brother possibly because his father may have a had a child with a Native American as noted above. I know sometime these stories wind up being or become "family tradition" with the truth stretched slightly or completely false. Let me know you guys think.
posted by Paul Tolleson III
He was previously attached to two different, both incorrect parents. I've detached them.

Can we find any source for his origins (and other family members)? THanks.

posted by Jillaine Smith
I think maybe two generations are combined?

They're attached as brothers now, but I think that may be wrong.

See West-12705 - compare - and the comment I posted on West-13437.

Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
West-10832 and West-7950 appear to represent the same person because: Same children, spouse, birth/death dates
posted by Bill Sherman

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