Pieter Winne

Pieter Winne (bef. 1609 - bef. 1693)

Privacy Level: Open (White)
Pieter "De Vlaming" Winne aka Winnen
Born before in Gent, Flanders, Southern Netherlands (now Belgium)map
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before in Bethlehem, Albany County, New Yorkmap
Profile last modified 26 Jul 2019 | Created 13 Mar 2011
This page has been accessed 3,096 times.
The Prince's Flag.
Pieter Winne was a New Netherland settler.
Join: New Netherland Settlers Project
Discuss: new_netherland

Biography

Pieter Winne was born in Ghent, Vlaanderen (Flanders), Belgium.[1][2][3] His parents were Frans (Franciscus) Winne and his wife Anna.[4] He was christened on 14 April 1609 in St. Baaf (also known as St. Bavo's or St. Bavon's) Cathedral in Ghent.[5][6]

Pieter Winne first married Aechie Jans(e) van Schaick. At least two children were born to their marriage. Pieter Pieterse Winne, who is mentioned in both his father's wills as being the son of the first marriage, was born in about 1643, probably in Curacao, West Indies. A second son, Lavinus was born in about 1647 in Curacao,.[7] Aechie apparently died in Curacao around the time that her son Lavinus was born. Lavinus is inferred to have died in about 1659, some time before the birth of his half-brother Lavinus.

Pieter Winne first arrived at Fort Orange, Nieuw Nederland in 1652. [8] He married Jannetje / Tannatje Adams (born in Leeuwarden, Friesland, Netherlands) before 1656, probably in the Netherlands.[9][10]

The family settled at Bethlehem, near Albany, New York. Pieter Winne owned considerable farm property, sawmills and timber lands. Pieter and Jannetie/Tannetie had twelve children. Sources are generally consistent regarding their names, but differ on the order and dates of some of their births: [9]

  1. Adam Winne, born about 1656 in Bethlehem, New Netherland;
  2. Aletta (a.k.a. Allette or Alecta) Winne, born about 1657 in Bethlehem, New Netherland, married Casper Leendertse Conyn;
  3. Lavinus (a.k.a. Livinius) Winne, b. abt 1658 in Bethlehem, New Netherland;
  4. Jacobus Winne, b. 1659 in Bethlehem, New Netherland;
  5. Frans Winne, born about 1660 in Bethlehem, New Netherland;
  6. Daniel Winne, born 1663 in Bethlehem, New Netherland;
  7. Killiaen Winne, born 1668 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York;
  8. Tomas Winne, born 1670 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York;
  9. Lyntje Winne, born 1674 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York;
  10. Marten Winne, born 1676 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York;
  11. Rachel Winne, born 1677 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York;
  12. Eva Winne, born 1680 in Bethlehem, Albany, New York.

"Winne, Pieter, of New Albany, born in the city of Ghent, Flanders, and wife Jannetie Adams, born in the City of Leuwaerden, Friesland", made a joint will dated 1 Jun 1677.[11] The Dutch-language will mentioned Pieter, Pieter's son by first wife Aechie Jans. Other children were mentioned, but not by name. It described both real and personal estate and specified that the survivor would be executor. [12]

On 6 July 1684 Pieter Winne of Bethlehem made a second will to replace and supersede the first one.[13] The second will made Tannetje Adams his sole heir as long as she remained a widow, but if she remarried she was to receive half of the estate, with the other half distributed among the children of Pieter and Tannetje. Also, Pieter Pieterse Winne was to receive ten beavers as his entire inheritance.[14]

Pieter Winne must have died in Albany County, New York, before 7 May 1693, when his widow Jannetje remarried. [4][8] Letters of administration for his estate were granted to Casper Leendertse Conyn and Livinius Winne on 22 February 1696.[15]

Sources

  1. Schermerhorn, p. 13
  2. The Compendium of American Genealogy
  3. Research by Albertus: "Gent, Vlaanderen'" represents the Dutch spelling for "Ghent, Flanders". At the time of Pieter Winne's birth, Flanders was the southern part of the historical region called the Netherlands, but since the nineteenth century Flanders is a constituent part of the Kingdom of Belgium. It is now divided into East and West Flanders. Gent (Ghent) is in present-day Oost-Vlaanderen (East-Flanders), a Dutch-speaking province of Belgium. In Pieter's lifetime Belgium, of course, did not exist. The whole territory of present-day Belgium, together with Luxemburg, and the Northern Dutch provinces - often referred to as Holland - were collectively known as "The Netherlands" (De Nederlanden) or "The Low Lands" (De Lage Landen) and as a whole belonged to the Holy Roman Empire until 1680. For thirty years in the nineteenth century, this region was reunited under the Kingdom of the Netherlands, until Belgium and Luxemburg broke away and went their own separate ways again. The creation of the economic union called BENELUX (BElgium, NEtherlands, LUXemburg) after World War II is yet another attempt to renew the bonds between the three countries making up the historical region of the Low Lands.
  4. 4.0 4.1 Bielinski
  5. West, Family Data Collection: Births. Birth date: before 14 April 1609; Birth place: Ghent, Belgium.
  6. If this baptismal record truly is for this Pieter Winne, and not that of another person of the same name, then Pieter was unusually old at the births of his youngest children.
  7. Birthdate reported by both Winn and Yates Publishing.
  8. 8.0 8.1 Camp
  9. 9.0 9.1
  10. The entry for Pieter Winne in the Compendium of American Genealogy (Virkus, editor) has conflicting information. It states that this Pieter Winne (i.e., from Ghent; will proved 1695/6) married Jannetje Albertsz circa 1660. This probably is a result of confusion between this Pieter and his son Pieter Pietersen, who married Jannetje Albertsz in 1660.
  11. Calendar of Wills
  12. Summary, from Calendar of Wills, p. 480: "WINNE, Pieter, of New Albany, born in the City of Ghent, Flanders, and wife jannetie Adams, born in the City of Leuwaerden, Friesland. Son by first wife Aechie Jans, vizt. Pieter, other children mentioned but not by name. Real and personal estate. The survivor executor. Witnesses Jan Verbeeck, Mr. Cornelis van Dyck and Adriaen van Ilpendam, Notary Public."
  13. Pearson, p. 127
  14. Full text of the second will, from Pearson, pp. 127-129: "In the name of God, Amen. By the contents of this present public instrument know all men that in the year after the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, one thousand six hundred and eighty-four, on the 6th of July, about midday, and in the thirty-sixth year of his majesty's reign Charles the second, before me, Robert Livingston, secretary of Albany, colony of Renselaerswyk and Shinnechtady, etc., and before the hereinafter named witnesses, came and appeared the Honorable Pieter Winne, magistrate, born in the city of Gent in Vlaanderen, at present sick in body but of sound memory and understanding as is clearly apparent, who, considering the shortness and frailty of human life, the certainty of death and the uncertainty of the time and hour thereof, therefore wishing to dispose of his temporal effects to be left behind while he yet by God's grace is able, and doing so of his own free will and motion, without the inducement or misleading of anyone, he now ordains and determines that his last will and testament in form and manner following: First and foremost commending his immortal soul (whenever it shall be separated from his body) to the gracious and merciful hands of his Creator and Savior and his body to a Christian burial, likewise canceling and revoking and annulling thereby all and every such testamentary disposition and bequest as he before the date hereof may have made and executed, especially that will by himself and wife made under date of the first of June 1677, written by Mr. Adriaen van Ilpendam, notary public, holding the same null and of no effect and now making a new disposition, this testator declares that he has nominated and instituted, as he does nominate and institute hereby, his worthy and beloved wife Tannetje Adams as his sole and universal heir of all his lands, property real and personal, claims, credits, money, gold, silver coined and uncoined, jewels, clothing, linen, woolens, household furniture, etc., nothing excepted, so long as she remains in her widowed state, without her being called upon or annoyed by any one of the children, or anyone for them, for an inventory or anything appertaining to the estate and after her death shall his estate be equally divided among the children whom they have begotten together, share and share alike. But if his wife enters the marriage state again, then she shall be holden to divide and apportion the whole estate; that is to say, a just half thereof as it then may be found to the behoof of the children whom he has begotten by his present wife aforenamed, namely Adam Winne, Livinus, Frans, Allette, wife of Casper Leendertse Conyn, Killiaen, Tomas, Lyntje, Marte, Jacobus, Eva, Daniel, and Rachel Winne; and the other half to the behoof of his wife, and this reservation that she remain holden to the minor children to bring up in the fear of the Lord, and cause them to learn reading and writing and a trade or handicraft wherewith in due time they may, by God's favor, and with honor obtain their subsistance, the legitimate portion of said minor children remaining so long in the hands of their mother aforesaid and the rents and profits thereof being by her received until they arrive at maturity and enter into matrimony, she giving good security that the portions of the minor children be not lessened; and to the other children who may be already married and have arrived at their majority to pay over their portion pro rata, as their shares in the estate may be, share and share alike, no more to the eldest than to the youngest; she being holden to deliver an inventory of the whole estate and confirm the same, if necessary, by oath. The testator wills and ordains hereby that after his death his oldest son Pieter Pieterse Winne, dwelling in the Sopus, shall out of the common estate receive once for all the sum of ten beavers in place of his legitimate portion and entire inheritance, wherewith he shall be content, without any more, not willing that he or anyone for him shall make the least claim any more upon the testator's estate, directly or indirectly. The testator further desires that if it please God the Lord both he and his wife to remove, both being now sick, the whole estate shall be kept together, without any division or partition, until the youngest child shall attain her majority or enter the marriage state, and then be divided among the aforesaid twelve children, share and share alike, the portion of that child or children who die in their nonage to go to the survivors. The testator excludes herein the honored orphan masters (saving all honor and respect) and in their place requests and constitutes, as he hereby does Mr. Marte Gerritse and Mr. Cornelis van Dyck (who have accepted the same) to see the contents of this his last will and testament promptly and uprightly carried out in all its parts and provisions. All which he, the testator, declares to be his last will and testament, desiring the same after his death to have full force and effect whether as will, codicil, donation, gift in anticipation of death, or otherwise, as the same may be last maintained, notwithstanding that some formalities demanded by law or custom may not have been fully observed herein; desiring the utmost benefit hereof to be received, and one or more copies hereof to be made and executed as occassion may require. This done and executed at Bethlehem, lying in the county of Albany on Hudson's river, two miles to the south of the city of Albany, at the house of the testator, which [will] he has signed and sealed in the presence of Mr. Marten Gerritse and Mr. Cornelis van Dyck, magistrates called as witnesses hereto, the year, month and day aforenamed."
  15. Early Records of Albany
  • Bielinski, Stefan. Pieter Winne. People of Colonial Albany. New York State Museum.
  • Calendar of Wills on file and recorded in the offices of the Clerk of the Court of Appeals, of the County Clerk at Albany, and of the Secretary of State, 1626-1836. Compiled by Berthold Fernow. New York Secretary of State, 1896.
  • Camp, John H. "Pieter Winne, Personal genealogical website, last updated 22 August 1998. Text: "Pieter was also known as Pieter de Vlamingh (the Fleming). He arrived at Fort Orange in 1652, when he began paying rent of f275 and tithes for use of a farm near Bethlehem... On 6 Jul 1684, Pieter Winne made a will in which he stated that he was born in Gent in Flanderen. This will replaced one he had made on 1 June 1677. His final will was dated 31 December 1688. He died sometime after 4 May 1690, when he witnessed the baptism of his grandson by his son Frans, and before 7 May 1693, when his second wife Tanneke Adams married Martes Cornelisz Van Buren."
  • O'Callaghan, Edmund B. The Documentary history of the state of New York. Albany, N.Y., 1849-1851.
  • Pearson, Jonathan. Early Records of the City and County of Albany and Colony of Rensselaerwyck. Volume 4. New York State Library, History Bulletin, 11. Albany, 1919 pp. 127-129
  • Schermerhorn, Richard. "Representative Pioneer Settlers of New Netherland and Their Original Home Places." In: Michael Tepper, editor. Immigrants to the Middle Colonies: A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists and Associated Data from the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. Genealogical Publishing Company, 1978. p. 13. "Winne, Pieter from Ghent, East Flanders" (source cited is Van Rensselaer -- Bowier Mss.).
  • Van Benthuysen, Alvin Seaward,. The Van Benthuysen genealogy : descendants of Paulus Martense Van Benthuysen, of Benthuizen, Holland, who settled in Albany, N.Y., male and female lines. Clay Center, Kansas: Wilson Engraving and Printing Co., 1953. Accessed at http://www.Ancestry.com.
  • Virkus, Frederick Adams, editor. The Compendium of American Genealogy. Published 1942; republished by Genealogical Publishing Co. (Baltimore), 1968. Vol. VII. Lineage Records, p. 284. Accessed at Ancestry.com. Text: 8. Pieter Winne, Will proved 1695/96, from Ghent, Flanders; of Bethlehem, New York; magistrate, m. ca. 1660, Jannetje Albertz.
  • West, Edmund, compiler. Family Data Collection - Births. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001. Ancestry.com.
  • Winn, Robert E. Pieter Winne [1609-1692], Winn-Wilcox Genealogy, Ancestry.com, 21 March 2001.
  • Yates Publishing, U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Online publication, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Ancestry.com.

Acknowledgments

  • WikiTree profile Winne-23 created through the import of JKD1.ged on Sep 15, 2011 by Richard Draper. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Richard and others.
  • Thank you to Sheldon Sickler for creating WikiTree profile Winne-86 through the import of Sickler Family Tree(2).ged on Nov 5, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Sheldon and others.


More Genealogy Tools



Sponsored Search




Sponsored Search by Ancestry.com

DNA
No known carriers of Pieter's DNA have taken a DNA test.

Have you taken a DNA test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.



Images: 1
St. Bavo's Cathedral, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium, where Pieter Winne was baptised on 14 Apr 1609. Photo taken by Albertus DeFM, AD 2001
St. Bavo's Cathedral, Gent, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium, where Pieter Winne was baptised on  14 Apr 1609. Photo taken by Albertus DeFM, AD 2001

Collaboration

On 26 Jul 2019 at 17:23 GMT Richard Draper wrote:

It would take further research, but "de Vlaming" sounds a lot like "de Flamand" particularly if he spoke with a Dutch - or Flemish accent. If so, it could be descriptive and both surnames could be accurate, regardless of spelling!

On 26 Jul 2019 at 17:15 GMT Richard Draper wrote:

I suspect that Pieter, like so many immigrants accepted the New World's pronunciation and spelling of his name after arriving in the New Albany area. That is supported by the geographical names as well as the name apparently carried by his children.

On 26 Jul 2019 at 11:37 GMT Paula (Hawkins) Reinke wrote:

Hi there profile managers,

Please note there are Suggestions that needs your attention please.

https://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTStatus/Status.htm?ErrID=870&UserID1=1139623&UserID2=0

On 28 Apr 2019 at 15:42 GMT James Bogart wrote:

Quoting from "Miner Descent" genealogy by Peter Winne 8/14/2010 -re Winne-19. "he became a tenant in the colony of Rensselaerswyck. His farm was in the southwestern part of the manor called Bethlehem where he operated a sawmill. By the end of the decade he also was established in Beverwyck - where he owned a house and became a prominent fur trader.

Winne's house and mill were situated on a creek names Vloman Kill....The Winne family continued to reside along the creek through the end of the nineteenth century.

On 26 Oct 2016 at 03:21 GMT Ellen Smith wrote:

His will (as transcribed here) lists his children with Tannatje Adams in the following order:
  1. Adam Winne
  2. Livinus
  3. Frans,
  4. Allette,
  5. Killiaen
  6. Tomas
  7. Lyntje
  8. Marte
  9. Jacobus
  10. Eva
  11. Daniel
  12. Rachel

Considering that wills commonly listed children in their order of birth, why is the list here in such significantly different order? (Yes, the profile says that sources differ, but there should be some logic.)

I particularly wondered why Tomas is shown as marrying at age 19 -- I don't think that would have been done.

On 19 Apr 2015 at 15:01 GMT Linda Crannell wrote:

Winne-152 and Winne-19 appear to represent the same person because: Same father, brother, and wife.

On 29 Nov 2014 at 04:48 GMT Ellen Smith wrote:

On 10 Nov 2014 at 19:58 GMT Steven Mix wrote:

Winne-86 and Winne-19 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!

On 10 Nov 2014 at 19:54 GMT Steven Mix wrote:

Winne-23 and Winne-19 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!

On 10 Nov 2014 at 19:51 GMT Steven Mix wrote:

Winne-135 and Winne-19 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!

more comments



Pieter is 20 degrees from Michael Cayley, 25 degrees from Rick Rescorla and 12 degrees from Henry VIII of England on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

W  >  Winne  >  Pieter Winne

Categories: New Netherland Settlers | New Netherland Project-Managed