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Mary (Winter) Walmsley (1856 - 1904)

Mary Walmsley formerly Winter
Born in Goulburn New South Wales Australiamap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1887 in Balmain, New South Wales, Australiamap
[children unknown]
Died at age 47 in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australiamap
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Profile last modified | Created 20 Nov 2014
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The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.

Biography

Mary was born about 1866 and married Robert Walmsley in 1887 at Balmain. [1]

Robert and Mary appear to have had the following children:

Harold b 1890, Lithgow (19418/1890)
Gladys b 1892, Albert Park, Victoria (9326 / 1892)

They seem to have moved at some stage to New Zealand.

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Research Notes

Mary married Robert J Walmsley in 1887, so possibly not the Robert Walmsley, son of Joseph Walmsley and Bridget Powers. Possible death in New Zealand: "New Zealand, Civil Records Indexes, 1800-1966," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGXS-WZVB : 4 January 2018), Mary Walmsley, 1947; citing Death, New Zealand, registration number 1947/19880, Archives of New Zealand, Wellington.

The Mary Winter who married Robert Walmsley doesn't seem to be the Mary Winter (1856-) who was born in 1856 has parents Joseph and Sarah.

She passed away in 1904. [2]

No death for Mary Walmsley with the right parents in 1904. Death indexes for a Mary Walmsley in 1904:

- WALMSLEY MARY 7773/1904 WILLIAM MARY WOLLOMBI

- WALMSLEY MARY B 6327/1904 WILLIAM J MARGARET J NEWCASTLE


Sources

  1. NSW Government. Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. Robert J Walmsley & Mary Winter, Marriage. Registration number: 1977/1887, District: Balmain. Accessed 5 Mar 2021. Marriages search page
  2. First-hand information as remembered by John Bird, Thursday, November 20, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.




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Hi John, when I went through the sources again, I noticed that Mary Winter and Robert J Walmsley actually married in 1887, not 1877. I've amended the marriage details and added an estimated date of birth for Mary. It now seems like they may have moved to New Zealand. I'm not sure that Robert J Walmsley is Robert son of Joseph Walmsley and Bridget Powers. Please get back to me if you would like to discuss. Thanks, Gillian
posted by Gillian Thomas
Hi Gillian

Joseph Walmsley and Bridget Power had a son Robert born 1856 Registration No 6241/1856 ( I do not know if his middle name was Joseph) As you say, they married in 1887 and had one son that I know of Harold born 1890 Registration No 9418/1890 .

My understanding is that Mary Winter , daughter of Joseph Winter and Sarah Worthington was born 19 Oct 1956 at Goulburn NSW.

Regards John

posted by John Bird
Hi John, I'm going to remove the unmerged match of Mary with Mary Winter (1856-) as the sources don't seem to support them being the same person. I'll add a note to the profile about it. I'll amend her birth details to reflect that her birth date and place is currently not known. Thanks, Gillian
posted by Gillian Thomas
Hi John, do you have the marriage certificate for Mary Winter and Robert Walmsley, and / or the death certificate for either of them? I think they are needed to confirm if you have the right Mary Winter and Robert Walmsley.
posted by Gillian Thomas
Winter-2593 and Winter-1808 are not ready to be merged because: Needs more research, but probably different people
posted by Gillian Thomas
Winter-2593 and Winter-1808 appear to represent the same person because: Identical birth dates; listed birth places are within 25 miles of each other. If there actually are two different Mary Winters born on the same date in NSW, sources are needed on both profiles to show that they're different people.
posted by Sharon Casteel

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