I am German and I live in Rhineland-Palatinate / Germany. My maternal ancestors came from Savoy and settled after the Thirty Years' War in Bolanden / Donnersbergkreis in the Palatinate. There I search the names Klag, Usner, Wild and Thiel. My paternal ancestors ended in 1883 in Dresden / Saxony, the documents were burned in 1945. There I search for the names Wolf, Kirsche, Legrat, Neubert and Feske. But I suspect more ancestors in Bohemia. Other ancestors came from Bergstrasse / Hesse and also Wallonie. The names are Diehm, Kumpf and Weihs. From my home region on the Rhine, I search the names Sösser, König, Zech, Schmitt, Gerst, Fritz, Gothar and Johannes.
I can read the old German script and offer to translate German texts.
Palatinate
Lothar Wolf has German Roots.
Lothar Wolf has Bavarian origins
Lothar Wolf has Saxonian origins
Lothar Wolf has Hessian origins
Lothar Wolf has Baden origins
Lothar Wolf has Saarland origins
Lothar Wolf has Palatinate origins
Lothar Wolf has French origins.
Lothar Wolf has Savoyen origins
Lothar Wolf has Alsatian origins
Lothar Wolf has Belgian origins.
Lothar Wolf has Walloon origins
Lothar Wolf has Austrian origins
Lothar Wolf has Vorarlberg origins
The Palatinate (Die Pfalz) was part of:
1214 - 1798 Kurpfalz
1798 - 1814 Departement du Mont-Tonnere (Donnersberg)
1814 - 1816 Bayerische Rheinpfalz
1816 - 1835 Bayerischer Rheinkreis
1835 - 1946 Bayerische Pfalz
1946 - Rheinland-Pfalz
The Palatinate is a region in the south of Rhineland-Palatinate in southwestern Germany. It has an area of 5451.13 km² and about 1.4 million inhabitants.
In the 30 Years War 1618-1648, the Palatinate was one of the most affected territories and
lost about three-fifths of its population. After that, the destroyed country lacked people for reconstruction.
Elector Karl I. Ludwig tried to retrieve the scattered Palatine, and also campaigned for colonists from other regions and countries. So it succeeded to settle farmers and artisans from France, Holland, Belgium, England, Scotland and especially from Switzerland and Tyrol in the Palatinate. And the Palatinate, similar to what happened later in large numbers through the colonists in North America, experienced a considerable upswing.
After this upswing, the Palatinate was looted and destroyed by troops of the French General Mélac in the Palatinate War of Succession in 1689. In the years 1717 to 1732 the Palatinate experienced its greatest wave of emigration until then, when about 3000 Mennonites moved to North America for religious reasons.
In the course of the French Revolutionary Wars, the entire left bank of the Rhine and thus the Palatinate were occupied by French troops in the 1790s. The Palatinate territories were combined in 1798 in the Département du Mont-Tonnerre (Donnersberg).
At 686.5 m above sea level, the Donnersberg is the highest mountain range in the North Palatinate Highlands and the entire Palatinate. The name is thought to refer to Donar, the Germanic god of thunder.
In 1809, 66 families, most of whom came from southern Palatinate, which had been devastated by the Napoleonic Wars, accepted the invitation of Tsar Alexander I and emigrated to Russia.
After the collapse of French rule on the Rhine at the turn of the year 1813/14, the General Gouvernement Middle Rhine was formed from the Donnersberg, Saar and Rhein-Mosel, to which the Forêts (Forest Department) was added in March 1814. But already in June of the same year, the area south of the Moselle came under common Bavarian-Austrian administration. The area north of it fell to Prussia.
After the Wars of Liberation and the Vienna Congress (1815), the territorially newly defined Palatinate on the left bank of the Rhine came to the Kingdom of Bavaria in 1816 as the Rhine Circle. The area around Mainz came to the Grand Duchy of Hesse as the province of Rheinhessen.
Under the influence of the French July Revolution of 1830, a major rally for freedom took place at Hambacher Schloss near Neustadt an der Haardt in 1832, which went down in history as the Hambacher Fest.
After the failed March Revolution of 1848 and the Frankfurt National Assembly, Palatinate revolutionaries organized an uprising against the Bavarian government in May 1849. The goal was to create a Palatinate Republic. Within a few weeks, the uprising was crushed by Prussian troops almost without a fight.
The poor economic situation prompted numerous Palatinates to emigrate, especially to North America, until the middle of the 19th century.
Denominations
In 1557, Palatine Count Ottheinrich introduced the Protestant, or more precisely the Calvinist, faith in the Palatinate, the last of the great secular territories of the empire. Elector Philipp Wilhelm of the Palatinate brought back the Catholic faith in 1685. In this way, there were several denominations in the historic Electoral Palatinate - Catholic, Lutheran, Reformed (Calvinist) and the Mennonites (also Hutterites and Amish) - which was a rare exception in the Old Kingdom.
Research Notes
Wolf, Kirsche, Legrat, Neubert, Feske -> Dresden Region
Knapp, Ludwig: Familienbuch Fürth (Odenwald) Band II 1712-1781
Knapp, Ludwig: Familienbuch Fürth (Odenwald) Band III 1781-1900
Haßloch, Pfalz (2013)
Benedom, Johann: Familien und Einwohner von Haßloch 1495 bis 1900
Heppenheim, Hessen (2012)
Löslein, Ernst: Heppenheim an der Bergstraße I. Die Familien von Heppenheim, Ober-Hambach, Unter-Hambach, Kirschhausen, Wald-Erlenbach, Erbach, Sonderbach, Igelsbach, Mittershausen u. Scheuerberg 1517-1668
Löslein, Ernst: Heppenheim an der Bergstraße II. Die Familien von Heppenheim, Ober-Hambach, Unter-Hambach, Kirschhausen, Wald-Erlenbach, Erbach, Sonderbach, Igelsbach, Mittershausen u. Scheuerberg 1669-1740
Seelinger, Winfried: Familien in Hochdorf und Assenheim 1412 bis 1912
Iggelheim, Pfalz (2009)
Benedom, Johann: Familien und Einwohner von Iggelheim 16. bis 19. Jhd
Kaiserslautern, Pfalz (1991)
Herzog, Heinrich: Kaiserslautern 1550-1619
Herzog, Heinrich: Kaiserslautern 1620-1650. Bürger, Hintersassen, Ortsfremde, Soldaten, Flüchtlinge u. andere Personen.
Herzog, Heinrich: Kaiserslautern 1651-1681. Bürger, Hintersassen, Ortsfremde, Soldaten, Flüchlinge u. andere Personen. 2. Aufl.
Herzog, Heinrich: Kaiserslautern 1682-1705. Bürger, Hintersassen, Ortsfremde, Soldaten, Flüchtlinge und andere Personen
Kirchheimbolanden, Pfalz
Lucae, Konrad und Karl Theodor: Kirchheim und seine Bürger, Kirchheimbolanden 1983, Schriftenreihe des Vereins Heimatmuseum e.V. Kirchheimbolanden Band 2
Gabelmann, Georg: Kirchenbücher von Kirchheim und Bolanden von 1686 - 1800 (1998)
Gabelmann, Georg: Die Bürger der Stadt Kirchheimbolanden und deren Höfe, der Gemeinden Bischheim und Bolanden von 1798-1900, 1. Buch: Geborene (1999)
Gabelmann, Georg: Die Bürger der Stadt Kirchheimbolanden und deren Höfe, der Gemeinden Bischheim und Bolanden von 1798-1900, 2. Buch: Verheiratete (2000)
Gabelmann, Georg: Die Bürger der Stadt Kirchheimbolanden und deren Höfe, der Gemeinden Bischheim und Bolanden von 1798-1900, 3. Buch: Gestorbene (2001)
Langenbrombach, Hessen (2020)
Wolf, Heiner: Ortsfamilienbuch Langenbrombach : Ortsteil von 64753 Brombachtal im Odenwaldkreis; Online-OFB.
Maudach, Pfalz (1985)
Jung, Hans / König, Irmgard: Die Einwohner von Maudach : 1268-1875. – Ludwigshafen, 1985.
Poller, Oskar: Mundenheimer Bürgerbuch. Die Einwohner von Mundenheim 1518-1814
Mutterstadt, Pfalz (2013)
Berthold, Alban: Familienbuch Mutterstadt
Oggersheim, Pfalz (1991)
Poller, Oskar: Oggersheimer Bürgerbuch. Die Einwohner von Oggersheim 1584-1814. Frankfurt a. M. 1991
Otterstadt, Pfalz (2015)
Helmus, Brigitte W. / Helmus, Werner PH.: Bürger und Fremde in Otterstadt, 1690-1910
Rheingönheim, Pfalz (1993)
Poller, Oskar: Zur Geschichte der Stadt Ludwigshafen/Rhein. Rheingönheimer Bürgerbuch. Die Einwohner von Rheingönheim 1518-1798
Poller, Oskar: Zur Geschichte der Stadt Ludwigshafen/Rhein. Rheingönheimer Bürgerbuch. Die Einwohner von Rheingönheim 1798-1898
Ruchheim, Pfalz (1996)
Poller, Oskar: Ruchheimer Bürgerbuch : die Einwohner von Ruchheim 1604 - 1814. – Ludwigshafen, 1996.
Schifferstadt, Pfalz (2000)
Benedom, Johann: Familien u. Einwohner in Schifferstadt vom 12. bis zum Ende des 18. Jh.
Benedom, Johann: Familien u. Einwohner in Schifferstadt Band 2., 18. bis 20. Jahrhundert
Studernheim, Pfalz (work in progress)
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Hallo again Lothar. I am following up on my Huber research that we messaged about last year, seeing you had the OFB or KB for Oggersheim. After Florian found a few documents from Ludwigshafen/Bad Durkheim this fall, we were able to push my maternal side out to 2GG now, and the father of Luise Anna Marie Huber is given as Georg Huber of Oggersheim, born 17 Mar 1893. I don't know who his parents are. Also if you have any information on his wife Elisabeth Steinmetz, born 26 May(?) 1893 in Oggersheim, that would be great!
Unfortunately, I can't help with that. The OFB of Oggersheim ends in 1814. The authors have deliberately omitted more recent entries because the records from 1798 onwards are available in the archives. Unfortunately, you have to do your own research in the archives.
I have not been to the archives personally since the Corona period. But it is still on my list. However, I cannot say what the current conditions of a visit to the archive are. But if I am finally there again, I will take a look for you.
Hey Lothar. I see you have access to an Ortfamilianbuch for Oggersheim, Rheinland-Pfalz. I have unknown maternal ancestors from Oggersheim that I need to break open. Of particular interest are any Sauers and Hubers there, and yes I know those are both very common names to the region.
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Hopefully you don't mind my contacting you as you were my WikiTree Greeter? I am running into a variation in spelling of surnames, for example Seljee/Siljee for a same individual on different occasions during their lifetime, pre last quarter 19th century and before. This family came to the Netherlands as Huegenot refugees and their name was then Selier. The one who wrote the source record probably just interpreted what he heard. Same with Kambier/Canbier. Also with Christian names for one individual Claas/Klaas/Claes for one individual in different source documents.
My great-great grandfather Johannes Diel came in the 1840s from Bermbach (Saksen-Weimar) to the Netherlands, and on an entry of his death in Amsterdam they put that he was from "Permback". I hope that the spelling variables is not causing me to enter things in wrong here on WikiTree? I wish to do things right. Would you please also look at my WikiTree profile Zandvoort-24 to see if I have set it up right? I read the How-To that you sent me with my WikiTree Greeting. I am really liking WikiTree a lot, and wish to do well here.
Is there a website where I can find records for my Diel ancestry pre-1820 to check and correct my mistakes? Not on WikiTree, but found on MyHeritage. I have got family records back to about 1635 but suppose my genealogical work is not accurate, problem is same Christian name shared by all males Nicolaus, August, Valentin etc from father to son, families with multiple boys, so I try to find who is who by checking for their wives, and then the dates. Bermbach, Thuringia area.
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Hallo von Leo Daman aus Belgien,
Mein geschrieben Deutch ist nicht so gut mehr als früher.
Ich versuche es doch.
Kennen Sie die Regent oder Stadt Ihrer Vorväter.
In 1600-1700 Wallonien war unterteilt in Grafschaften Brabant, Namen, Lüttich (Prinz- Bischof)
Luxemburg, auch die Französische und Deutsche grenze war nicht wie heute.
Grüss Leo Daman van Hove [email address removed]
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Unfortunately, I can't help with that. The OFB of Oggersheim ends in 1814. The authors have deliberately omitted more recent entries because the records from 1798 onwards are available in the archives. Unfortunately, you have to do your own research in the archives.
I have not been to the archives personally since the Corona period. But it is still on my list. However, I cannot say what the current conditions of a visit to the archive are. But if I am finally there again, I will take a look for you.
At our Dutch Roots Project page you can find all project info .. if you still have questions or need some help feel free to ask, we're all happy to help :)
Here's a direct link to our most important links for info for and about Dutch profiles. And here's the latest Project Update. (our Dutch Naming Convention and the part about the LNAB (=Last Name At Birth) are the most important and will help prevent duplicates ;) )
Good luck, have fun and thanks for joining !
edited by Maggie N.
I was going to award you with the super star badge but seen Traci beat me to it. Congratulations, it is very well deserved!
Kind regards,
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Hopefully you don't mind my contacting you as you were my WikiTree Greeter? I am running into a variation in spelling of surnames, for example Seljee/Siljee for a same individual on different occasions during their lifetime, pre last quarter 19th century and before. This family came to the Netherlands as Huegenot refugees and their name was then Selier. The one who wrote the source record probably just interpreted what he heard. Same with Kambier/Canbier. Also with Christian names for one individual Claas/Klaas/Claes for one individual in different source documents.
My great-great grandfather Johannes Diel came in the 1840s from Bermbach (Saksen-Weimar) to the Netherlands, and on an entry of his death in Amsterdam they put that he was from "Permback". I hope that the spelling variables is not causing me to enter things in wrong here on WikiTree? I wish to do things right. Would you please also look at my WikiTree profile Zandvoort-24 to see if I have set it up right? I read the How-To that you sent me with my WikiTree Greeting. I am really liking WikiTree a lot, and wish to do well here.
Is there a website where I can find records for my Diel ancestry pre-1820 to check and correct my mistakes? Not on WikiTree, but found on MyHeritage. I have got family records back to about 1635 but suppose my genealogical work is not accurate, problem is same Christian name shared by all males Nicolaus, August, Valentin etc from father to son, families with multiple boys, so I try to find who is who by checking for their wives, and then the dates. Bermbach, Thuringia area.
Thank you very much for you kind help.
Kind regards,
Robert
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I'd like to thank you, Lothar, for the kind greeting.
I can see that you've been a hard-working and involved member in the three years you've been in WikiTree!
I may ask you for help with some pre-1700 German ancestors in the future, when I'm not so new at this.
Thanks again, Jon
edited by [Living Williams]
Please correct your category to Category: Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany (you need the comma to be inserted.)
Thanks, Natalie, Categorization
Hallo von Leo Daman aus Belgien, Mein geschrieben Deutch ist nicht so gut mehr als früher. Ich versuche es doch. Kennen Sie die Regent oder Stadt Ihrer Vorväter. In 1600-1700 Wallonien war unterteilt in Grafschaften Brabant, Namen, Lüttich (Prinz- Bischof) Luxemburg, auch die Französische und Deutsche grenze war nicht wie heute. Grüss Leo Daman van Hove [email address removed]
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