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Rowland Young Senr. (bef. 1626 - 1685)

Rowland Young Senr.
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Husband of — married about 1648 in York, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Died after age 59 in Kittery, York, Massachusetts Baymap
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Rowland Young Senr. migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 389)
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Disputed Origins

Charles Edward Banks, in The History of York, Maine, suggests that the "only occurrence of the very rare name of Rowland in combination with Young, known to the author is in Buckinghamshire, in the parish of High or Chipping Wycombe where a Rowland Young was married in 1616 and again in 1618. He could have been the father of our early settler."[1] These two marriages of Rowland Yonge to Joanna Gray (1616) and Barbara Ocko (1618) were recorded in the Buckingham Parish Registers.[2]

However, Mr. Banks greatly overestimated the rarity of the name Rowland Young:

  • A Rowland Young was buried 1597 in Craike, York.[3]
  • A Thomas, son of Rowland, was born 1606 in Northumberland.[4]
  • Another Rowland Young was having children in Pateley Bridge, York, in the 1620s[5]

These indexed microfilm records show that other Rowland Youngs existed in "Rowland Young Senr's" time in different places and therefore the name combination was not uncommon.

In addition, U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Name: Rowland Young Arrival Year: 1652 Arrival Place: Massachusetts Source Publication Code: 6435.60 Primary Immigrant: Young, Rowland Annotation: Date and place of mention. Source Bibliography: PAIGE, LUCIUS R. List of Freemen of Massachusetts, . Baltimore: Clearfield Co., 2002. 60p. Arrival date is false he was in York, Massachusetts Bay on the jury on the 26th of November in 1650, so this source is by no means official in it's accuracy; click link below Province and court records of Maine. v.1 (1636/68). Maine";[page.155]

Disambiguation

The result of above said explanations clearly ensures that "Rowland Young Senr." of York Province, Massachusetts Bay Colony is not too be confused with Rowland Yonge of High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire,England[6] who married Joana Gray in May 1616, and Barbara Okol in October 1618.

It's more than likely that Capt. Thomas Young, "Yeo Man of London" who is cited in the Maine court Records in 1640 on behalf of the king,[7] and who was sent to the Massachusetts Bay colonies in 1634 by King Edward III, was the father of "1636 Maine Province" "'Rowland Young Senr". And so far in all documented context there is no contradiction to this. Along also with no other elder of the surname Young in 1636-1640 as a possibility of connected family settled in the province of York, York, Maine, Massachusetts Bay Colonies. Furthermore, Thomas Young was married to Joan Clarke (1578-1608), who was a daughter of Rowland Clarke (1540-1578) of Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England. This also explains the origin of Rowland Young's first name - he was named after his maternal grandfather. Since his mother Joan died in 1608, he was born by 1608.

In the court records of the province of Maine. v.1 index, Rowland Young, Samuel Young, and Capt. Thomas Young are all grouped together in its index and who are also cited in different documented court hearings throughout the records.[8]

Biography

Birth

There is nothing in the records that indicates how old Rowland Young Sr. was, so pinpointing his birth is difficult. His son Rowland Young Jr. was born in 1649,[9] His son Rowland Jr. reported that his father had been in Maine since 1636. He was on the jury in 1650 and was not a freeman until November 22nd 1652.(read below) So he had to be at least twenty four years old In 1650 according to the law in 1647. [10][11] So he was born before 1626. One suggestions is 1618 in Buckinghamshire, if Rowland and wife were his parents.

Immigration

The evidence for his arrival about 1635 comes from a petition by his son in 1686:

"To his Excellency Sir Edmond Andross Lieutenent Governour of his Majesty's territory and dominion of New England":
"The humble petition of Rowland Young sheweth that your petioners father was an inhabitant in the town of York in the province of Maine nigh fifty years, there he brought up a great family of children, and by his labor purchased a small tract of land in the same town, eight acres whereof he gave to your petitioner. That your petitioner about sixteen years ago, laid out about one hundred and fifty pounds in building upon the said land, but in the time of the late Indian War your pettiioners house was burnt and he and his family exposed to hardship, that the selectmen of the said towne of York being sensible of your petitioners great loss did offer to bestow upon your petitioner eighteen acres of land out of fence and unimproved adjoining to your petitioners land but it was never laid out to him nor as yet disposed of to any other person. Now in-as-much as your petitioner has built a little house upon his land and having a great charge of children, is not able to support his family upon that land left him by his father, he humbly prays your excellency to grant unto him and his heirs the above said eighteen acres of land unimproved and out of fence upon such moderate quit rent as to your excellency shall seem meet.
And Your Petioner Shall Ever Pray".
"Signed Rowland Young Jr. (his seal and mark)"[12]

Marriages

Some secondary sources suggest that he was probably married twice, trying to suggest that Rowland Young Senr. was Rowland Yonge of High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire,England who married twice. Why? Because they clearly did not know of any other records to evaluate, and went along with the incorrect supposition introduced by Charles Edward Banks, that the names '"Rowland Young"' was a rare name and there was no other records of that name "Rowland Young" during the late 1500s to early 1600s.[1] But as stated in the will of his wife, Joanne Knight who married Rowland Young Senr. c1648 , daughter of Robert Knight,[13] she was clearly the mother of all his children and the same wife he had when he died.

Children

  1. Deacon Rowland Young Jr;born in 1649[14]
  2. Mary b. c. 1653; m. Jeremiah Moulton
  3. Robert b. c 1658
  4. Samuel b. c 1662
  5. Job b c. 1664. Job Young seems to be omitted from many lists of the children of Rowland Young, however, he is connected to this family by the following deed: "Job : Young and Thos Hayns of york... paid by Allexandr Junnkins and Jos Junkins... do... Sell... four acres... within the Township... of Kittery... Known by ye name of Youngs Marsh being a Part of a percel of marsh formerly belonging to Rowland Young of York Decd who was ye father of Aforesd Job young & father of ye wife of ye sd Thomas Haynes... this third Day of January... One Thousand Seven hundred & Nine"[15]
  6. Lydia b. 1672; m. (1) Thomas Haynes; (s) Samuel Bragdon.

Life in York, Maine Province

Rowland was of the town named "Kittery" in York, Maine Province, Massachusetts Bay colony. He took the oath of the freeman among others in the Province of Maine on November 22nd, 1652.[16]

Rowland Young Senr. is listed as one of the Gent. Subscribers to manage the housing and immigration in the Province of Maine, and too make sure they were subjected and to abide by the laws of the kingdom of Great Britain on the date March/18/1679.[17]

Rowland Young Senr. a freeborn subject, signed this petition concerning the years 1661, 1665, and 1668 in the Province of Maine.[18]

When Maine became part of the Jurisdition of Massachusetts, Rowland signed the articles of submission 22 Nov 1652.[19][1]

Rowland was on the jury in 1650.[20]and 1655[21]

He served on a grand Jury in 1678. The following year he was on the grand jury.[22]

Rowland did not sign the petition to Cromwell which referred to the complaints presented to the Protector by "some gentlemen of Worth" (1652 list of York Province Gents.)[23] for restitution of their right of jurisdiction and asked that they be not heeded, intimating that they were instigated by "professed Royalists whose breathings that way... have been so farre stifled."[24]

Rowland had a town grant in 1653 at Bass Cove which he sold to Daniel Dill.[25]

"I Rowland Young of York ffisherman with the free consent of my wife Joane doe in Consideration of ye Sum of Nine pounds... paid by Capt John Davis... doe... Sell... unto Daniel Dill... ten Acres... being between Bass Cove and John Chirmihills land, bounded with John Alcocks Lott... and Richard Banks... by ye River Side... According to town grant whereby ye sd land was given me bearing July the 3d 1653... this 4th Day of Decembr 1666... Rowland X Young... in ye presents of Edw Rishworth, John Twisden, Daniel Livingstoun."[15]

Rowland's home was in Godfrey's first division of the grand patent extending northeast from Meeting House Creek.[22] Rowland was one of those who signed Peter Weare's letters to help him get out of jail in 1668.[26]

On 12 April 1677, during King Philip's War, his house was burned by the Indians on Ferry Neck.[27]

Rowland signed a petition against the sale of Maine 28 March 1679 and signed the petition to the King in 1680 praying that they might be restored to his immediate authority as a Royal Province,[28] but to no avail and the Massachusetts authorities declared themselves: "the now Lord Proprietors of the Province of Mayne".

Rowland and his wife deeded the Knight land to son Robert in 1680, 10 acres to son Samuel on 18 Apr. 1682 and the Knight homestead to son Rowland Jr. 25 Aug. 1685. He willed the remainder to his wife Joan in 1685.[22]

"I Rowland Young Senr of the Town of York... ffisherman, together by and with the Consent freewill and Agreement of Joanna my now wife for and in Consideration of the Naturall Love and Affection we do bear to our Son Robert Young... do give... Ten Acres of Land... which is a Part of yt Lott of Tract of Land which was formerly my now wifes Fathers Robert Knights Land where he formerly lived... near unto the house of Mary Sayward Widow... his wife Mary Young is to have ye free Use & benefitt of it during her Naturall life... this third Day of June... 1680... Rowland X Younge, Joana X Young... in the presence of Arthur Bragdon, Daniell Livingstone".[15]

"Wee Rowland young Senjor of yorke... & Johana young my beloved wife, for & in Consideration of the parentall love, & naturall affection that wee beare unto or Loveing sonn Samuell young, have given... tenn acres... being in part of a Tract of Land, granted unto mee by the Town of yorke at a publique Town Meeteing held at yorke on the fiveteenth day of Septembr 1667 : & layd out to mee & bounded by the Selectmen of the Town of yorke, Aprill the ninth 1679... lijng behind my now dwelling house... this eighteenth of Aprill one thousand six hundred eighty & two- Rowland X young Senjor, Johanna X young... In the Presence of Arther Bragdon, Daniell Liveingstoone".[15]

"Rowland young Senjor with his well beloved wife, Joane young of yorke... for ye respect & naturall affection yt wee beare unto or dutifull sonn Rowland young of the Ysles of shoals the Northermost, have given... One... parcell of Land, lijng & being on the North side of the River In yorke... which... was formerly ye homestall & in the possession of or Loveing father, Robert Knight deceased but now lawfully to us Convayed to Present Dowers : The other part a Certen Tract... adjoyneing to the former... lijng to the North West of it... till It meete with or sonn Roberts grant & also Adjoyneing to a Parcell of Land no in Tenure & possession of my Loveing sonn Robert young, which Wee the abovesd Doners, gave also to the abovesd Robert... the sayd Rowland young shall have a free & Coman out lett through our sonn Robert youngs Land... & that ye said out lett shall give full & free passage, and repase, both for man & beast, both to the Mill, & also to ye Comans in yorke which passage... shall remajne to Perpetuity... Always provided yt If it should please almighty god, to take to the earth this our Loveing sonn Rowland by death & our loveing & Dutifull daughter his beloved & espowsed wife susanna should survive after him, wee thus order... that the sd Susanna shall in that tyme of her Widdowhood... shall injoy the produce profitt or benefitt of the growth of ye sd Land... the 25th of August (1685)... Rowland X young, Joane X young... In the Presence of Samell Mathews, Tymothy X Yealles".[15]

Death

He died by 25 Sep 1685 when the inventory of his estate was taken.

1685 Will of Rowland Young Senior

In the name of god Amen
Rowland young Senjor of yorke in the Prouince of Mayne, declareth this to bee his last will & testament; I Rowland young aforesayd, being at this Present of a sound mind, & of a memory substantiall, though very sicke in body, & willing to dispose prudently of what god in his pleasure hath possest mee with all, declare as followeth/

first I bequeath my soule to god, that gaue it in & through ye meritts of my deare Ld & saujor, Jesus Christ, in hopes of a Joyfull resurrection, at the great Tribunall: & my body to the earth yr to bee Inter'd, in order & Decent buriall/

2ly I will that all my funerall Charges shall bee fully & duely payd, with all my other iust & due debts, which may appeare/

3: I will that my dearly, & beloued wife, Johanna young shall inioy all my Estate yt I haue in this world, the same to possess & improue, & to take the full produce of from tyme to tyme, & at all tyms dureing the tyme of her naturall life, & If in case the produce of ye same shall not bee a Competent measure for her Comfortable subsistance I do hereby Impoure my well beloued to sell, aliene or dispose of all or any of my Estate, not yet disposed off, for yt end, & shall desire any Court or seale or Judicature, in such case of extremity, to ayd & Assist my beloued wife yrin, & also so to order that shee may haue a comfortable liuelyhood according to her Ranke, & quality out of ye same/ And further I order my well beloued wife to will bequeath & dispose off what part of my Estate, shee shall leaue at her decease, to whom shee pleaseth; I also will the possession Present of all my Estate, houses Lands Marshes, or any or any thing yr unto belonging to my dearely beloued wife, to whom I Committ soole execution, & Administration, desireing this my wellbeloued wife to act as soole executrix, in all respects to see my last will & testament Performed/
Signed & deliuered in the
Presence of,
Jeremiah Mowlton/
his X marke/
Timothy Yealls/
Rowland young
his marke
Sworn to by attesting witnesses 6 Nov 1685; recorded 24 Nov. 1685; Inventory returned at £224: 06: 0, by Abraham Preble and Arthur Bragdon appraisers, 25 Sept. 1685.[29] [13]

An Inventory of the Estate of Rowland young of yorke deceased... this 25th of Sepber 1685:[13]

Witness our hands Abra : Preble Arther Bragdon Joane young came before us this 26th day of Septembr 1685 & doth Attest upon her oath yt this is a true Inventory of ye Estate of her husband lately deceased Rowland young senior...".[15] An Inventory of the Estate of Rowland young of yorke deceased... this 25th of Sepber 1685:
Imprs his weareing Cloaths.................................. 008 19 00
It for houses Lands & Marsh................................ 140 00 00
It one small boate with what doth belong to her .. 010 00 00
It for a stage fishing house & flake rowme .......... 003 05 00
It Cattle 2 stears, 4 Cows one Two yeareling Heffer..026 00 00
It three yearlings and Too Calfes at..................... 005 00 00
It one horse three swine & foure piggs................ 006 10 00
It two Iron potts & one Irone chissell at................ 001 10 00
It for pewter & a warmeingpan............................ 000 15 00
It a frijngpan & one brass morter at..................... 000 05 00
It Tenn sheep 4£ for bedding six
pounds 15s......................................................... 010 15 00
It for a saw betle Rings & two axes at 20s......... 001 00 00
It one fowling peece at....................................... 002 00 00
It 2 Cheeses 6 Milke pans two butter potts........ 000 18 00
It one Churne Tubbs, pales, with
other small things.............................................. 005 05 00
It Cloath at the Weavers fourty shillings........... 002 00 00
__________ 224 06 00

"Witness our hands"
Abra(Abraham) Preble
Arther Bragdon
Joane young came before us this 26th day of Septembr 1685 & doth Attest upon her oath yt this is a true Inventory of ye Estate of her husband lately deceased Rowland young senior...".

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Banks, Charles Edward, 1854-1931. History of York, Maine, Successively Known As Bristol (1632), Agamentious (1641), Gorgeana (1642), And York (1652). Baltimore: Regional Pub. Co., 1967. Vol. I, p. 98.
  2. Phillimore, W. P. W. Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages London, Phillimore & co. pp, 6, 7.
  3. "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8NZ-P32 : 24 December 2014), Rowland Young, burial 30 Nov 1597; citing Craike, York, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 2,105,068.
  4. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5TZ-XJG : 30 December 2014, Rowland Young in entry for Thomas Young, 11 Mar 1606); citing ST ANDREW PAR REG AND NONCONF, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 0095010-0095013.
  5. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5BG-W2G : 6 December 2014, Rowland Younge in entry for Thomas Younge, 09 Apr 1627); citing PATELEY BRIDGE, YORK, ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 98,551.
  6. Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages; by Phillimore, W. P. W. (William Phillimore Watts), (1853-1913), ed; Ragg, Frederick William, 1845- joint ed; Gurney, Thomas, joint ed; Bale, Ronald Frank, joint ed Publication date 1902;[Pages.6-7]
  7. Maine. Province And Court Records of Maine. Portland: Maine Historical Society, 1928. Volume 1. Portland: Maine Historical Society, 1928;1640 Capt Thomas Young [165 Vol 1 p 81]
  8. Province and court records of Maine. v.1 (1636/68). Maine; Index of persons and places;[page.346]
  9. "Maine Deaths and Burials, 1841-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4DQ-VX4 : 4 December 2014), Deacon Rowland Young, 28 Jun 1721; citing reference p 5; FHL microfilm 12,836.
  10. "Oaths Of Allegiance In Colonial New England" documented by Charles Evans[page 34]
  11. Colonial Origins of the American Constitution: A Documentary History; Donald S. Lutz https://oll.libertyfund.org/page/1647-laws-and-liberties-of-massachusetts
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  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Sargent, William M. Maine wills : 1640-1760 1848-1891; Maine Historical Society. Portland [Me.] : Brown, Thurston & company, 1887 Joan pp. 124/5 citing Probate Office I, 57; Roland pp. 85/6 Citing Registry of Deeds 5, 38
  14. "Maine Deaths and Burials, 1841-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4DQ-VX4 : 4 December 2014), Deacon Rowland Young, 28 Jun 1721; citing reference p 5; FHL microfilm 12,836.
  15. 15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3 15.4 15.5 York Deeds. (10 acres Samuel Vol IV folio 48); (Rowland Vol IV fol. 53-4), (Robert Vol VI, fol 25-6) (1666 Daniel Davis Vol IV fol 159), (Inventory Vol. V, fol. 37-8), (Job Vol. VIII, fol. 192)
  16. Documentary History of the State of Maine, Volume 4, Pages.61-67; https://archive.org/stream/documentaryhisto04main#page/60/mode/2up
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  18. Documentary History of the State of Maine, Volume 4, Pages 309-311; https://archive.org/stream/documentaryhisto04main#page/308/mode/2up
  19. Clayton, W. W. History of York County, Maine. With illustrations and biographical sketches of its prominent men and pioneers Philadelphia, Everts & Peck, 1880. p.29, p. 218
  20. Source: #SMaine1 p. 155
  21. #SMaine1 Maine. Province And Court Records of Maine. Portland: Maine Historical Society,. Volume II. Portland: Maine Historical Society.
  22. 22.0 22.1 22.2 Libby, Charles Thornton. Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Portland, ME, USA: The Southward Press, 1928.) Vol 5 p. 776
  23. "Documentary History of the State of Maine, Volume 4";Page 62]
  24. Mass. Archives- Vol.3, p.199, p. 242
  25. Banks, Charles Edward, 1854-1931. History of York, Maine, Successively Known As Bristol (1632), Agamentious (1641), Gorgeana (1642), And York (1652). Baltimore: Regional Pub. Co., 1967. Vol. II p. 68
  26. Mass. Archives- Vol.3, p.279
  27. Banks, Charles Edward, 1854-1931. History of York, Maine, Successively Known As Bristol (1632), Agamentious (1641), Gorgeana (1642), And York (1652). Baltimore: Regional Pub. Co., 1967. Vol 1. p 282
  28. Mass. Archives- Vol.3, p.341 p. 288
  29. Maine Wills, 1640-1760 (Portland, Me., 1887), p. 85, citing Registry of Deeds, 5, 38;http://www.mainegenealogy.net/maine_wills.asp?source=registryofdeeds&testator=RowlandYoungSr

Additional Sources

  • Maine Vol 1Maine. Province And Court Records of Maine. Portland: Maine Historical Society, 1928. Volume 1. Portland: Maine Historical Society, 1928
  • Smith Doris H and Mary L.H. Littlefield. Some of the Descendants of Rowland Young of York, Maine- Doris H. Smith & (1975)
  • Ernst, George. New England Miniature- A History of York, Maine. Freeport, Me., Bond Wheelwright Co., 1961
  • Ernst, George. "Matthews Genealogy"- George Ernst- MS at York Historical Society
  • Stackpole, Everett S. History and Genealogy of the Stackpole Family. Second Edition. Lewiston, Me., Journal Printshop and Bindery, 1920. p. 80, and others
  • Hooper Genealogy- MS at York Historical Society
  • York Co. Registry of Deeds- Vol.4, pp.48-50; Vol.5, p.38; Vol.6, p.25
  • Holmes, Frank R. (comp.) Directory of the Ancestral Heads of New England Families, 1620-1700. Originally published 1923. Reprint Baltimore: Gen. Publ. co. 1964 ... 1999
  • http://www.mainegenealogy.net/maine_wills.asp?source=registryofdeeds&testator=RowlandYoungSr
  • Gen. Dictionary of ME and NH by Charles Edward Banks; p.776: He was fined for travelling to Kittery on Sunday in 1666, and for drunkeness in 1678.
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3C4F-R25 : accessed 2017-04-04), entry for Rowland Young
  • Directory of the Ancestral Heads of New England Families 1620-1700, by Holmes
  • https://archive.org/stream/buckinghamshirep06phil#page/6/mode/2up
  • "Pioneers of Maine and New Hampshire, page 244" states: YOUNG, Rowland, Senior, York, an inhabitant there about 1637, according to the disposition of his son Rowland in petition to Andros in 1688, "brought up a great family of children." [Bax.Ms.VI] Took oath of allegiance to Mass. gov't. 22 Nov. 1652. With wife Johanna he conveyed land 18 April 1682, to son Samuel; and to son Rowland 25 Aug. 1685, a tract formerly the homestead of their father Robert Knight, and a tract adjoining land of their son Robert Young.
  • Province and court records of Maine. v.1 (1636/68). Maine; Index of persons and places, p.346 Index
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I will also move the wife's will to her profile (if it's not already there.)
posted by Jillaine Smith
The inconsistencies I'm referring to are in formatting, not in the data.Well, except the birth year; i think we can do better than before 1636.
posted by Jillaine Smith
(My 8th gg) I definitely agree about improving the birth date. I'd want, at an absolute minimum, to change it -- given that record showing the birth of son Rowland, Junr. (7th gg), in 1649 -- to "before 1631", as he'd certainly have been at the very least 18 by then; and, as noted, probably at least 21.

And if he was on a jury in 1650 ("Life in York" section), surely he was by then at least 21? -- which would push his birth back to at least "before 1629". Any objection to my entering that?

(Beyond that, I'm intrigued by the argument made for his parentage under "Disambiguation" that would push his birth all the way back to, or past, 1608. But let's please at least get him into the late 1620s!)

posted by Christopher Childs
I understand what you are saying. As it seems a bit more logical perhaps? It's before 1636 now to keep it safe. Because that much can be proven. You can reproduce When you are fourteen. So no one knows for certain until we have more records giving further birth specifics at this point.

As for him being on jury in 1650. It did not state his age, he could have been a teenager given his circumstances for all we know.

posted by [Living Smith]
edited by [Living Smith]
Only a freeman could be a member of a jury (the jury system was formalized as of 1641; see: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/learn-about-the-history-of-the-jury-system), and a freeman had to be male and at least 21 (see: http://www.babcock-acres.com/Misceallaneous/freeman.htm). The Province of Maine record clearly places him on a jury in 1650; ergo, his birth had to be by 1629.
posted by Christopher Childs
The dates and times would have to specifically correspond to Rowland Young Senr. or it isn't possible to truly know.
posted by [Living Smith]
edited by [Living Smith]
I'm not clear what you are saying. In 1650, Rowland, Jr., would have been 1 year old. Do we have evidence of any other Rowland Youngs who would have been in the Province of Maine and would be legitimate alternative candidates??

I am having difficulty, Troy, understanding why you are resistant to this rather simple change.

posted by Christopher Childs
What I am saying is how concrete was that system? You always need dates and names with documents as sources. Unfortunately nothing else will do.
posted by [Living Smith]
We have a court record naming him as a member of the jury! I do not understand what more you need. No one other than a freeman could have sat as a mid-17th-Century juror, and no freeman could have been under 21.

Please accept the alteration in the birth date. "Before 1629" is likely still well short of the actual year of his birth, but at least it gets us into the right ballpark.

posted by Christopher Childs
I appreciate your research. I really do, and I completely understand what you're saying here. But I can not alter anything without more information. "Specifically" mentioning his age or a earlier court date. This is very sensitive research. Again if you find anything mentioning an earlier court date let me know please.
posted by [Living Smith]
Well, it's 1:30 a.m. in my time zone, and I'm calling it a night. But it seems I have yet to make my point effectively. In the face of the court record, to place Rowland's birth at "before 1636" is to suggest the possibility that he sat on a Massachusetts Bay jury at the age of 14. That is risible. In fact, the most common age referred to in defining adulthood in this period is not even 21; it's 24. But having found a source stating 21 as the cutoff for freemanship, I've made my peace with that.

Hopefully others may chime in on this subject and this will become something beyond a bipolar exchange. This issue has been sitting unaddressed for nearly a year and some movement is past due.

posted by Christopher Childs
Ok well as long as they have credible sources. Because I mean it may never be truly known without further documents. Am I correct in thinking that sir? I am very passionate about this profile as much as you are I believe. Again thanks for the input.
posted by [Living Smith]
edited by [Living Smith]
Christopher is absolutely correct. Here is the court record (a very good source) stating that Rowland Yonge was a member of the jury in 1650. Only freeman could be on juries. You could not be a freeman until you were 21. 1650-21=1629, so born before 1629.
posted by Anne B
Troy, somewhere I know you asked for specific evidence for the age restriction on freemanship/jury membership. Below is a list of citations, contained in “Freemanship in Colonial Massachusetts” by B. Katherine Brown (available to read on JSTOR.org with free membership), making it clear that jury duty in 1650 was in fact restricted not just to men of 21 or above, but in fact to men (whether or not they were freemen) "of twenty-four years of age" under Massachusetts law. (And I would now ask that Rowland's birth be pushed back another three years, to "before 1626".)

Citing Charles M. Andrews, The Colonial Period of American History, New Haven, 1934, I, pp. 459-60: “Although a small body of freemen controlled all political affairs until 1648, [Andrews] says, after that time every man who had taken the oath of fidelity and was twenty-four years old could vote and offer motions or petitions in town meetings.”

Citing Massachusetts Records, II, 197: In 1646, “The Childe petition [to extend rights of freemen to non-freemen] failed, but the next general court nevertheless passed a law in 1647 extending the freemen’s privileges to nonfreemen in town affairs. Any inhabitant of twenty-four years of age, the law said, who had taken the oath of fidelity (required of all male residents) could be on the jury, could vote in town meetings and could be elected a selectman.” [Bolding added.]

Citing Massachusetts Laws of 1660, p. 76 [196]: “The only minor change in franchise requirements between 1647 and 1664 was the addition in 1658 of a property qualification for town voting. According to the law, all English inhabitants of twenty-four years who had taken the oath of fidelity and who were ‘Rated at twenty pound estate in a single Country Rate’ could vote and hold office in town affairs.”

Citing Massachusetts Records, IV, Pt. 2, pp.117-18, 134: In 1664, “[A new law] gave the vote to all church members in full communion. But it also enfranchised all Englishmen twenty-four years of age who presented a certificate from the ministers of their town that they were freeholders….”

posted by Christopher Childs
This is great info, Christopher! Thanks very much for putting it all together.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
In "Oaths of allegiance in colonial New England" documented by Charles Evans [page 34]

It states that: "Any non freemen, who have taken or shall take the Oath of fidelity to this government could be jury men and vote in cer￾tain matters, after he had attained the age of 24 years."[1647.]

Rowland young took the oath of the freeman on November 22nd 1652 as he listed in "Documentary history of the state of Maine"[page 62.] Since he was on the jury in 1650 and had not taken the oath of the freeman yet he would have to indeed have been at least 24 as you said. So born before 1626. Yeah you're right.

posted by [Living Smith]
edited by [Living Smith]
Glad we are on the same page, Cousin.  :o)
posted by Christopher Childs
Jillaine Smith. I get the clean up part. But what inconsistencies too the information is there? All I can think of is that he has 2 more sons he needs added. Thank you I'm truly curious too know XD

Either way that's awesome you got something ready for this profile,can't wait too see it Jillaine.

posted by [Living Smith]
This profile is in need of some major cleanup: typos, formatting errors and inconsistencies. I have drafted a revised profile. Please cease editing so I can replace it. Thanks. Jillaine co-leader, PGM project.
posted by Jillaine Smith
added death record that gives birth year for first son "Deacon Rowland Young Jr."
posted by [Living Smith]
removed this profile from "Maine sub-Project" and added image of Maine Province flag for identification on location purposes.
posted by [Living Smith]
ok cheryl will change it now. and thank you for pointing that out,(very important) (:
posted by [Living Smith]
It seems that whenever a "(now Maine)" or whatever descriptive phrase is typed into the birth or death place in the data, it triggers an error with the error program - data doctors. (now Maine) needs to be deleted. It can be noted in the biography.
(The problem is now resolved I piped the profiles with Disambiguation Category too solve the confusion)
posted by [Living Smith]
Captain Thomas Young is from London. He is the most suggestive candidate of his origins. Not all Rowland Youngs were the same people so they can't be merged unless directly proven. Look Capt. Thomas Youngs profile.Rowland Young,Samuel Young, and Capt.Thomas young are all grouped together here in this index;https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951t00061501c;view=1up;seq=430

Province and court records of Maine. v.1 (1636/68). Maine;Index of persons and places,[p.346]

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Young-8734

Further the research Helen Ford represented suggests that the "Rowland Yong's of High Wycombe,Buckinghamshire are the same people because of the death record of Joanna UX in 16-1617, that explain the other marriage too Barbara Okol in 1618 both Marriages in High Wycombe Buckinghamshire. How would be relevant too this Rowland Young Husband of Joanne Knight? The only reason the suggestion even still seems to be relevant is because the claim made by Charles Edward Banks.

posted by [Living Smith]

Y  >  Young  >  Rowland Young Senr.

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