Johann Zuck (1722 - 1802)

Born 6 May 1722 in Walschbronn, Moselle, Lorraine, France

Ancestors

Husband of Anna Maria (Demerle) Zuck — married 31 Jan 1747 in Walschbronn, Moselle, Lorraine, France

Descendants

Died 27 Feb 1802 at age 79 in Walschbronn, Moselle, Lorraine, France

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Biography

Johann ["Jean" in the French records] Zuck was born 6 May 1722, son of Christophe Zuck (31/05/1693 - 24/04/1770) and Johanna [Jeanne] Roth (1702-1735); ^[1] he passed away 27 Feb 1802 at Walschbronn, Moselle, France; ^[2] married 31 Jan 1747 at Walschbronn, France Anne Marie Demerle, born 24 Aug 1731 at Walschbronn, France, she died there 30 Nov 1800, ^[3] daughter of Pierre Paul Demerle and Anne Odile Strassel; ^[4]

Children of Johann [Jean] Zuck and Anne Marie (Demerle) Zuck (all born at Walschbronn, Moselle, France):

• Anne Barbe Zuck, b. 14 Nov 1748 ^[5]
• Catherine Zuck, b. 7 Aug 1750 ^[6] married 17 Nov 1772 Jean-Nicholas Maginot ^[7]
• Jean-Georges Zuck, b. 5 Aug 1752 ^[8] died young.
• Madeline Zuck, b. 19 Jan 1754 ^[9] married Balthazar Oliger in 1776 ^[10]
• Anne-Marie Elizabeth Zuck, b. 2 July 1756 ^[11] died at Walschbronn 19 April 1762. ^[12]
• Regine Zuck, b. 2 Nov 1758 ^[13]
• Anne Marie Zuck, b. 22 Nov 1759 ^[14] died 17 Sept 1825 ^[15] married 4 Jan 1783 Jean-Nicholas Strassel,^[16]
• Marie Marguerite Zuck, b. 18 April 1762 ^[17] died
• Marguerite Zuck, b. 8 Feb 1764 ^[18] married 14 Feb 1786 Jean Nicolas Megel ^[19]
• Christine Zuck, b. 7 Dec 1768 ^[20] married Jean-Georges Strassel 1783. ^[21]
• Jean-Georges Zuck, b. 17 Feb 1771^[22] died 16 Jan 1772 ^[23]

Jean Zuck was a laborer, according to the several Walschbronn birth, marriage and death certificates associated with him and his immediate family.

Research Notes

The Josef Hefner/Johann Bayer "Ortssippenbuch-Tschatali-Csatalja," a German genealogy Family Book (OSB) for the Hungarian village of Csatalja (called “Tschatali” in German) INCORRECTLY cites Anne Marie Demerle as the wife of a Joseph Bauholzer, showing them married at Csatalja in 1755, as follows: “Bauholzer, Josef, born April 27, 1729 in Wellendingen, died Mar 6, 1799 80 years old, Conscription List in 1764/123 [page 123], son of Bonus Bauholzer and Bona Maria Hagen. Married first: 3 February 1755 Demerle, Anna Maria, young widow of Georg Zuck, born 14 August 1731 in Walschbronn, died 13 February 1779, daughter of Peter Strassel and Anna Ottila Strassel. Married second: 4 May 1779, Kemple, Susanne, widow/maiden, born about 1759. List of children: seven with Anna Maria, who died 13 Feb 1779, one with Susanne Kemple His last child in 1791 at age 62. Sources: Wittmer: Walschbronn, S 20 Hutfluss: OSB Stanisschlitsch I, Number 160.” [Wittmer, Walter “Register of the Catholic church books of the parish Walschbronn 1684–1792, Ruppenthalerhof, (1989).257 S. http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Walschbronn,_OFB] and [Hutfluss, Michael, OSB/OFB Stanischitsch Batschka 1788-1895, (1996). http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Stanischitsch_1996_(1896-1938), OFB]

The Josef Hefner/Johann Bayer Tschatali-Csatalja OSB (CD 2002), is a secondary source - a family book that cites both primary sources and other OSBs. The (Wittmer) "Walschbronn Parish Registers" is a primary source, while the (Hutfluss) "Stanischitsch OSB" is a secondary source, hopefully supported by primary sources. Neither is available online at Family Search, but print copies are in German libraries and the LDS/Salt Lake library.

The likely explanation for the mistake is that the author of the "Ortssippenbuch-Tschatali-Csatalja," family book identified “Anna Maria NN” (last name not known) in the Hungarian records as Anna Maria Demerle of Walschbronn by associating the name of Anna NN’s first husband, Jean George Zuck, with the Walschbronn family of Jean-George Ulrich Zuck who did move to Tschatali (Csátalja), and did have a son named Johan Georg Zuck, born there in 1758. After checking the Walschbronn records, the author found Anna Maria Demerle Zuck, married to a Johann Zuck to fill the Anna Maria “NN” gap. Unfortunately, Anna Maria Demerle’s husband at Walschbronn is named "Jean" [or Johann in German], not “Johann-Georg,” and in fact, Jen Zuck had a brother Johann-George Zuck (not the one who migrated to Hungary), born in 1730, who married Catherine Backscheider. Thus, the author identified the records of Anna Maria Demerle’s Walschbronn birth and marriage, but missed (or excluded) her children’s births, and her death date in 1802, as well as her husband Jean Zuck's death date in 1800, which can readily be seen in the records and confirmed in the Walschbronn church records and the French civil authority records.

The German Genealogy web site “Genealogy.net” issues a similar warning about the claimed marriage of Anne Marie Demerle and Joseph Bauholzer in the “Ortssippenbuch-Tschatali-Csatalja’: “This couple cannot be identical with Johann Zuck who married at Walschbronn January 31, 1747 Anna Maria Demerlé, as they had eleven children baptized in Walschbronn between 1748 and 1771; among others on 08/05/1752 and 01/19/1754. See Wittmer: KB Walschbronn p. 241. [jb] Source: [oo] OSBT

https://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=tschatali&ID=I44826&nachname=NN&lang=de

Sources

1. ↑ Birth Certificate, Jean Zuck, 6 May 1722, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/631271, accessed 20 Oct, 2021.
2. ↑ Death Certificate, Jean Zuck, 27 Feb 1802, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsaced/477973, accessed 20 Oct, 2021.
3. ↑ Death Certificate, Anne Marie Demerle Zuck, 30 Nov 1800, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsaced/478464, accessed 20 Oct, 2021.
4. ↑ Marriage Certificate, Jean Zuck and Anne Marie Demerle, 31 Jan 1747, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacem/385536, accessed 20 Oct, 2021.
5. ↑ Birth Certificate, Anne Barbe Zuck, b. 14 Nov 1748, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629856, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
6. ↑ Birth Certificate Zuck, b. 7 Aug 1750, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629853, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
7. ↑ Marriage Certificate, Catherine Zuck and Jean-Nicholas Maginot, m. 17 Nov 1772, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacem/385309, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
8. ↑ Birth Certificate Jean-Georges Zuck, b. 5 Aug 1752, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629852, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
9. ↑ Birth Certificate Madeline Zuck, b. 19 Jan 1754 , Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629859, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
10. ↑ Conrad (Joseph) et Schneider (Norbert), Les familles de Waldhouse/Walschbronn, (2 Volumes) (Rohrbach-lès-Bitche: published by Cercle Généalogique du Pays de Bitche 2002). p. 974. [Copies may be purchased in France, at: https://sites.google.com/site/genealogierohrbach/ ]
11. ↑ Birth Certificate Anne-Marie Elizabeth Zuck, b. 2 July 1756, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629850, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
12. ↑ Death Certificate Anne-Marie Elizabeth Zuck, died 19 April 1762, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsaced/478595, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
13. ↑ Birth Certificate Regine Zuck, b. 02/11/1758, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629851, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
14. ↑ Birth Certificate Anne Marie Zuck, b. 22 Nov 1759, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629860, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
15. ↑ Death Certificate Anne Marie Zuck, d. 17 Sept 1825, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsaced/478386, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
16. ↑ Marriage Certificate Anne Marie Zuck and Jean-Nicholas Strassel, m. 4 Jan 1783, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacem/385483, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
17. ↑ Birth Certificate Marie Marguerite Zuck, b. 18 April 1762, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629858, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
18. ↑ Birth Certificate Marguerite Zuck, b. 8 Feb 1764, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/6298558, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
19. ↑ Marriage Certificate Marguerite Zuck and Jen-Nicholas Megel, m. 14 Feb 1786, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacem/385348, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
20. ↑ Birth Certificate Christine Zuck, b. 7 Dec 1768, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629854, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
21. ↑ Conrad (Joseph) et Schneider (Norbert), Les familles de Waldhouse/Walschbronn, (2 Volumes) (Rohrbach-lès-Bitche: published by Cercle Généalogique du Pays de Bitche 2002). p. 974. [Copies may be purchased in France, at: https://sites.google.com/site/genealogierohrbach/ ]
22. ↑ Birth Certificate Jean-Georges Zuck, b. 17 Feb 1771, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsacen/629857, accessed 20 Oct, 2021
23. ↑ Death Certificate Jean-Georges Zuck, d. 16 Jan 1772, Walschbronn, France Civil records, Walschbronn, Moselle, France (City Code:57), transcribed by Genealogical Circle of Alsace, Records carried out by members of the Alsatian Genealogical Circle. https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmcgalsaced/478596, accessed 20 Oct, 2021