John Warren (1866 - 1939)

Born 15 Oct 1866 in Trewellard, St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom

Ancestors

Husband of Amy (Noake) Warren — married 30 Sep 1890 in Pendeen, Cornwall, England

Descendants

Died 22 Jan 1939 at age 72 in Pendeen, St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

Birth

John Warren was born on 15 October 1866 at Trewellard, St. Just in Penwith, Penzance, Cornwall, England.^[1] He was baptised on 19 November 1866 at St John the Baptist, Pendeen by his parents Richard, a miner, and Charlotte Warren of Trewellard.^[2]

Marriage

John (23, bachelor) married Amy Noake (24, spinster) on 30 September 1890 at St John the Baptist in Pendeen, Cornwall. He was a General dealer and they both lived in Trewellard. His father was Richard Warren (deceased), and her father was Edwin Tolbert Noake, a General dealer. Witnesses were her father Edwin Tolbert Noake and her sister Carrie Noake.^{[3] [4]}

Occupation

He managed a general store at Pendeen. His occupation was "Grocer" in the 1891 & 1901 UK Census.

USA Visits

(Brother-in-law) Harry Boddy (Ohio)
On 24 March 1904, he arrived at Ellis Island, New York from Liverpool, England (departed 6 Mar 1904) on the "Majestic (1890)". His age was identified as 37 years and 5 months (matching his Oct 1866 birth date), he was married (his wife was Amy Noake Warren); occupation was listed as "Blacksmith" (probably since he wanted to work in the mines), and this was his first visit to the USA. His destination was his brother-in-law Thomas Henry Boddy ("Harry") at 2253 1/2 Euclid Ave, Cleveland, Ohio, who was married to Amy's sister Florence "Flossie" Noake Boddy.^[5]

From Betty Warren Best's book (page 18), I understand that he sought work in the Copper Country of Michigan's Upper Peninsula "about the turn of the century", so that's probably why he came. He returned to England to fetch his wife Amy Noake Warren, but she was not well enough to make the trip to the USA so he remained there in Pendeen, St. Just. ^[6]

(Wife) Amy (Noake) Warren's Death
His wife Amy died at age 43 only 5 years later on 8 May, 1909. The subsequent 1911 England Census shows him as a "Widower" and "Tin miner working below ground" along with 4 of his oldest sons (John 19, Edwin ("Eddie") 18, Richard 16, and Bertie 14; his youngest son Thomas ("Tommie") 12 was in school, and his daughter Amy 17 also lived with them. The nearby Levant mine extends out under the sea.

Michigan Visit
In 1936 at age 69, he spent about 6 weeks in Ironwood, Michigan visiting his son John Warren and wife Mabel (Paull) Warren, and their children John Courtenay "Corky", Doug, Dorothy, and Betty. They celebrated his 70th birthday during his stay with all the Ironwood relatives. This was the first time in about 18 years that his son John saw his father (since 1919). After Ironwood, he then spent some time in Flint, Michigan visiting his other sons Bert & Tommie who worked at General Motors there before returning to England for a Christmas voyage on the Queen Mary. He died about 2 years later at age 72 on 22 Jan 1939.^[6]. The book (pages 181-4) mentions that he visited Ironwood in 1937 when he was "79" and celebrated his 80th birthday" there, but it was actually 1936, he was only "69", and it was his "70th" birthday. Betty's memories were close, but slightly off.

According to US Immigration records (line 29), he arrived at Ellis Island, New York 4 Aug 1936 (age 69) on the Aquitania from Southhampton, England (departed 29 Jul 1936). Apparently, he had been issued tickets at Plymouth, England on 20 Jul 1936. It indicates that he had previously visited the US (Michigan) in 1903 and 1906, with his last departure as Aug 1906; however, earlier immigration records show arrival in 1904. His sons paid for this trip (sent by Bert & Tommie). He listed E. Warren (Edwin, or "Eddie"), Green Market, Penzance, England as his nearest relative in England, and W. T. Warren (Thomas, or "Tommie") at 1845 Wisconsin Ave, Flint, Michigan as his destination.

Death

John Warren of Penzance Road, Pendeen, died at age 72 before January 22, 1939, when he was buried in Grave L39 at St John the Baptist, Pendeen, St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall.^[7] This was recorded in the General Register Office for the January-March quarter (Q1) in the Penzance district.^[8]

Census

1871 England Census
In the 1871 census, John (age 4) was the son of Charlotte Warren at Head of the Lane in Trewellard, St Just, Cornwall.^[9] This is also available at Cornwall Online Census for Enumeration District 7, Civil Parish: St Just in Penwith, Eccl. Parish: Pendeen, Folio 6, Page 4, Item 22.

1881 England Census
In the 1881 census, John (age 14), Scholar, was the son of Charlotte Warren in Trewellard Head of The Lane, St Just in Penwith, Cornwall.^[10] This is also available at Cornwall Online Census for Enumeration District 7, Civil Parish: St Just in Penwith, Eccl. Parish: Pendeen, Folio 86, Page 23, Item 124.

1891 England Census
In the 1891 census, John (age 24) was at Boscaswell Place in Boscaswell, St Just, Cornwall, England.^[11]. This is also available at the Cornwall Online Census for Enumeration District 6, Civil Parish: St Just in Penwith, Eccl. Parish: Pendeen, Folio 57, Page 18, Item 113.

1901 England Census
In the 1901 census, John (age 34) was at Boscaswell Terrace in Boscaswell, St Just, Cornwall, England.^[12] This is also available at the Cornwall Online Census for Enumeration District 5, Civil Parish: St Just in Penwith, Eccl. Parish: Pendeen, Folio 25, Page 14, Item 98.

1911 England Census
In the 1911 census, John (age 44), Tin Miner, was the widowed head of household at 6 Boscaswell Downs, Pendeen S O Cornwall, St Just, England.^[13]

Research Notes

His family might have come from Yorkshire, England - Source: Betty Best (Warren).

Sources

1. ↑ England & Wales General Register Office, GRO Online Index - Birth (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content : accessed 09 February 2022), database entry for Warren, John (Mother's maiden name: James). GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in Penzance Volume 05C Page 304
2. ↑ Cornwall : Pendeen : St John the Baptist : Parish Register : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817ee59e93790ec8b6b82a3 : viewed 28 Mar 2022) baptism John Warren 19 Nov 1866
3. ↑ Marriage: "Cornwall, England, Parish Registers, 1538-2010"
   Ancestry Record 9848 #54285 (accessed 28 March 2022)
   John Warren (23) marriage to Amy Noake on 30 Sep 1890 in Pendeen, Cornwall, England.
4. ↑ Cornwall : Pendeen : St John the Baptist : Register of unspecified type : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/59424842f493fd42605d5039 : viewed 28 Mar 2022) marriage John Warren to Amy Noake 30 Sep 1890
5. ↑ Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957 (National Archives Microfilm Publication T715, roll 439); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85, Line 11.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} "Ironwood Roots: Memories of the Upper Peninsula", Betty Warren Best, 2017, Published by: Best Gearhart Knitting Mavchines, 61 Best Way, Brasstown, North Carolina. ISBN10: 0-9859369-2-4. Pages 18, 181-4
7. ↑ Cornwall : Pendeen : St John the Baptist : Parish Register : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/597ad539f493fdbd2034bcf4 : viewed 28 Mar 2022) burial John Warren 22 Jan 1939
8. ↑ England & Wales General Register Office, GRO Online Index - Death (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content : accessed 09 February 2022), database entry for Warren, John (Age at death: 72). GRO Reference: 1939 M Quarter in Penzance Volume 05C Page 280
9. ↑ 1871 Census: "1871 England Census"
   The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 2344; Folio: 6; Page: 4; GSU roll: 835095
   Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7619 #27721305 (accessed 28 March 2022)
   John Warren (4) son in household of Charlotte Warren (31) in Penzance registration district. Born in St Just, Cornwall, England.
10. ↑ 1881 Census: "1881 England Census"
    Class: RG11; Piece: 2349; Folio: 85; Page: 22; GSU roll: 1341565
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7572 #2158821 (accessed 28 March 2022)
    John Warren (14) son, Scholar, in household of Charlotte Warren (41) at Trewellard Head of The Lane in Penzance registration district.
11. ↑ 1891 Census: "1891 England Census"
    The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 1860; Folio: 57; Page: 18; GSU roll: 6096970
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 6598 #24503025 (accessed 28 March 2022)
    John Warren (24) head of household in Penzance registration district. Born in St Just, Cornwall, England.
12. ↑ 1901 Census: "1901 England Census"
    Class: RG13; Piece: 2257; Folio: 25; Page: 14
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7814 #12244275 (accessed 28 March 2022)
    John Warren (34) head of household in Penzance registration district. Born in St Just, Cornwall, England.
13. ↑ 1911 Census: "1911 England Census"
    The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 2352 #55072054 (accessed 28 March 2022)
    John Warren (44), widowed, Tin Miner, head of household at 6 Boscaswell Downs, Pendeen S O Cornwall. Born in Pendeen, Cornwall.

See also:

• Geni: John Warren

Acknowledgements

This profile was created by his great grandson Doug Warren.