Untangling the Stephen & Martha Places of Rhode Island.

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I just came across the profiles of Martha Warren and Stephen Place, two Rhode Islanders who lived in the 1700s. Unfortunately it seems like this profile & the familysearch profile attached to the only source have combined Martha Warren and Martha Perkins, who lived near each other but seem to have separate (though unsourced) death dates. There is no proof that Martha Perkins ever had the last name Warren, and it seems that these two Stephen Places are different people.

Martha Perkins' profile is here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Perkins-1395

This begs the question: how do we figure out Martha Warren's actual dates? Are the children also conflated?

Unfortunately I was working on separate 'Place' profiles, this was a similar profile I stumbled across, so I don't have any data on this family. But it seems that researchers often confuse them so it would be majorly helpful if we could get them separated out.
WikiTree profile: Martha Place
in Genealogy Help by Liz Marshall G2G6 Pilot (112k points)
I will have a look this weekend for Rhode Island Project. Does Austin shed any light (or is it possibly the source of confusion)?
I'm not sure what you mean by that unfortunately! I think everyone has just started conflating them.

Sorry, should have looked at the dates on the profiles. Austin's Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island only covers pre-1690 residents.

A few quick items: Stephen Place married Martha Warren on 20 Mar 1678 at Scituate, Providence, Rhode Island. Source: Arnold, Vital Records of Rhode Island, V3:32 (and 3:24).  This date is presently given on the profile for the marriage to a Martha Perkins.

There do appear to be two men of the name Stephen Place who were roughly contemporaneous and then there is another man a generation later who married Sally Rathbun. The record is confusing but it appears the Stephen who married Sally Rathbun is a son of one of the earlier Stephen Places. Will look further at the weekend.

One of the commenters on the Stephen Place profile linked to a cached page for a Rootsweb mailing list -- the link no longer works.

I am trying to find what they possibly could be linking to. I think it might be one for Martha Perkins, but I'm not sure. Here's some of the ones that I think it could have been:

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25373712

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25373433

Lucky us, one claims that Stephen who m. Sally Rathbun is the son of Stephen & Martha (Perkins) and the other claims he is the son of Stephen & Martha (Warren). LOL.

Other ones claim that Martha's LNAB was "Worden".

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=21829143

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25373704

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25373711

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25373731

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=25374123
Liz, this slipped off my radar. Have you made some progress? I should have some time this weekend if needed.

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