Is Euphemia (Drummond) Fleming mother of Elizabeth Fleming? [closed]

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Comment on profile of Drumond-39 has had no reply,. Can someone help sort this out?

On 20 Jun 2019 Donna (Stephens) Harris wrote on Drummond-39:

It appears to me that there are some problems with this profile, such as the Elizabeth [[Fleming-9158]] born in Dartmouth, Devon, England is shown as the daughter of this Lady Fleming, but Lady Fleming and all the Flemings are born, lived and died in Scotland.

WikiTree profile: Eupheme Drummond Lady Fleming
closed with the note: Elizabeth Fleming removed as daughter. Thanks for the replies!
in Genealogy Help by Donna Harris G2G6 Mach 2 (21.8k points)
closed by Donna Harris

3 Answers

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Stirnet genealogy Peter Barn- Graham, Hamilton01.  Clan MacFarlane

Hope it helps
by Wen Rosmann G2G5 (5.3k points)
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I've left some comments on the profile for the daughter Elizabeth describing the problems and providing links to ''Scots Peerage'' that don't include her as a child of Euphame. Perhaps the profile manager will take note and disconnect her.
by Bobbie Hall G2G6 Pilot (350k points)
The PM is not pre-1500 certified which possibly could be an issue.
Agreed, but if he has additional source information he could still contribute via the comments. I assume that people adopt or create early-era profiles because they have an interest, even though they may not be able to make changes.

If you look in the changes, she was imported from a GEDcom in 2010. Elizabeth was added as a da. in 2019 so the PM possibly had no idea this happened, plus there was no citation. The middle name came from a merge with Drummond-2709, also uncited. Middle names are a later invention.

The original PM system didn't have the the citation requirements for Pre-1700/1500 today so not everyone even knows where they got these people in their tree.

I'm going to tag her with a Scotland sticker. 

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The Scots Peerage citation has these children:

By his first wife Eupheme Drummond

1. Malcom 3rd Lord Fleming
2. Malcom, Prior of Withorn
3. James

By his 3rd wife Agnes
4. Margaret 

Unknown mothers:
5. Unknown da. 
6. Unknown da.

On Elizabeth Fleming, the history of parliament entry on her son Thomas describes her as "Elizabeth, da. of one Fleming of Dartmouth". 

I'm going to disconnect her w/ a note.

by Kirk Hess G2G6 Mach 7 (72.2k points)
Thank you, Kirk Hess, for disconnecting  Elizabeth Fleming.

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