Nancy Branch's death certificate has her first name as "Mary"

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In most of the records I have, Nancy is referred to as "Nannie" but her death certificate says "Mary." I know it is her as all the dates match, the place is right, the husband's name is correct and the reporting person is her daughter. Why would this be?
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in Genealogy Help by Lindy Fisher G2G1 (1.7k points)

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Hello Lindy,

I would suggest 2 possibilities, and a third, very outside chance;

I have discounted the posibility that a mistake was made at the Registration, as I would expect her daughter to notice, and query it at the time.

1) if you have a copy or later issued death certificate, rather than the original contemporanous one (issued during the process of registration - anything after this, even just a week later is a 'copy' officially), or are working from a transcript, then it is possible that the original entry in the register has been mis-read.

2) When registering the death, her daughter provided an original birth certificate or other document which bore her 'real' name, rather than what the family had always known her by.

3) when registering the death, her daughter provided a copy of a document with the wrong name on it - but I think this would have been noticed at the time too.

I have several examples of (2) in my family:

a) My great-aunt was in hospital, but the ward would not admit it to my father (her nephew), because he only knew her as 'Megan', and her real name was 'Mary';

b) my Great-uncle told how he used to visit as a child to his 'Auntie Lizzie'. In her grandfather's will she is referred to as 'Elizabeth'. On the 1881 Census, her father has named her 'Lilly' with 2 'L's. On a sampler she embroidered whilst in the orphanage referred to in the will just mentioned, she identified herself (she was about 14) as 'Lily' with a single 'L'.

c) my mother had aunts who were not, at birth, named Molly, Polly, Dolly, but these were the names used throughout.

d) I would add that in your example, whilst Nancy and Mary are definitely names, 'Nannie' could be a name or a designation, like 'Grandma'. Nan, Nana, Nanny, or Nannie is a common name for 'Grannie' in south Wales, possibly elsewhere. My father had a 'Grandma' Church, and a 'Nana' Sanderson - because they had the same first name. I myself had a Grandad Lily and a Grandad Edna, because they both had the same first name, and I already shared my father's Nana.
by David Church G2G1 (1.6k points)
Thank you for responding. I never thought to look at the "Filed" dates. The handwriting from the death certificate seems to be from one person. Nancy's death date is Oct 20th, 1939, burial Oct 22, 1939, filed Dec 20th, 1939 stamped Jan 22, 1940.

I have been to the cemetery Nancy was buried and was told she never had a stone. The flag that marked the spot survived for many years but is now gone.

I've obtained a copy of her death certificate from Ancestry. I would love some help reading the maiden name of her mother which is on the document but don't want to run into copywrite issues by posting it to her profile. Do you know of a way I can do that?
Hi Lindy,

a couple of options and thouhgts again :

1) email me a scan of her DCert privately ( d.church at btinternet.com ) swap the 'at' to an '@'.

2) trim a scan of the DCert in a photography programme, and just publish the relevant area - but try to include some other writing in the same handwriting for comparison.

a) I don't know where you are, and am not asking, but there are differences in different countries. In GB, a certificate 'filed' and/or 'stamped' has been collected from the Registrar (of Births and Deaths) and sent to an insurance company or pension payer or annuity office, or something similar, possible a bank or funeral plan. This introduces the possibility that the version of her name used in setting up the account or policy was not the same as her real one. In some circumstances it may be possible to have had an amended one.   Our Sid died recently, with great perplexity as to whether he was a Sidney Alfred or an Alfred Sydney, and it would appear that he never really knew, himself, and considered the 4 versions equivalent, or forgot after retirement which he had used to whom, but would not have responded to 'Alf'.
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Also from the Silas Branch, (1848-1900) family is a woman named as Celia Casey on the marriage record; afterwards is known variously as Sely, Annie/Anna, Hannah, etc.  The family members and dates all match up (from 1880-1920) and either she/or the family was trying to avoid being located or ?
by Winifred McNabb G2G1 (1.1k points)

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