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Unknown Cloutier (abt. 1540)

Unknown Cloutier
Born about in Perche, Francemap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] in Perche, Francemap
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Biography

A Monsieur Cloutier had two sons: Denis & Raoullin. Nothing else about him is known.[1]

Research Notes

Estimated Birth: About 1640 is rounded down from 1644, based on him being 21 when his son Denis was born (his profile says born "about 1565 in Mortagne, Perche, France" (which is the source of this profile's birth/death location as well).

This profile was redone, from Nicolas m Rene, to unknown with no attached profiles other than those of two sons, which is all that is known of him (see comments). Detached and merged away: the profile for a father - Unknown. Just detached: the profile for a wife (also detached as mother of Denis and Raoullin): Marie-Anne (Briere) Brière (1537-1587), married in France about 1565.

Previously, this profile said he was Nicolas Cloutier (1544-1626) who married Rene Briere and had by her at least two children: Denis & Raoullin. Details from unsourced or unreliable websites were that he was born in 1544, St Jean-De-Mortagne, Perche, Orne, France and died 1626, St Jean Mortagne, Au Perche, France[2][3]

Text from the profile attached as father (Coultier-235) had said:

Note: Nothing about the father of Nicolas Cloutier is known (that his surname was Cloutier is assumed). Birth date guess of 1520 added based on son's birth and marriage in "about 1544" and 1565. Death place of France assumed since son is shown as born and died in France. Probably could also assume it was Mortagne, Perche, Orne (profile for Nicolas has his birth in "St Jean-De-Mortagne, Perche, Orne" and death in "Mortagne, Perche, Orne, Normandie.").

Leads

  • Genforum discussion
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #125476363 for Renée Brière (no source citations/no pictures) has her married to Denis Cloutier
Online Tree shows parents of Denis (no sources):
  • Nicolas CLOUTIER 1544-1590
    • Nicolas CLOUTIER born 25 May 1544 - Mortagne-au-Perche, 61293, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; Deceased 12 September 1590 - Mortagne-au-Perche, 61293, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France, age at death: 46 years old
    • Married 29 August 1563 , Mortagne-au-Perche, 61293, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France, Philomène SAVOIE
  • Philomène SAVOIE 1543-1595
    • Philomène SAVOIE, born 14 April 1543 - Mortagne-au-Perche, 61293, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; Deceased 10 May 1595 - Mortagne-au-Perche, 61293, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France, age at death: 52 years old

Sources

  1. Comment posted 29 May 2021: This person's son, Denis Cloustier, married Renée Brière. The name of Denis's father - this profile - is not known, nor his wife or wives, nor Renée's parents. This profile should really be Unknown Cloustier (it is needed because one brother of Denis, Raoullin Cloustier, is known) without wife or parent.
  2. Caron Online Tree (no sources)
  3. Source: OneWorldTree, Ancestry Publication, The Generations Network, Inc., Provo, UT, USA




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This person's son, Denis Cloustier, married Renée Brière. The name of Denis's father - this profile - is not known, nor his wife or wives, nor Renée's parents. This profile should really be Unknown Cloustier (it is needed because one brother of Denis, Raoullin Cloustier, is known) without wife or parent.
done. Thanks Isabelle!

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thank you so much for the prompt action, Liz!
Denis Cloutier was my 12X GF. I have found in other records that there was a 3rd brother Jacques B 1566. I also found that his father Nicolas was married to Marguerite Martine Remy. I think but not sure that Marie Anne Briere was Denis's wife Renee Briere's mother. I also found that Nicolas's father was also Nicolas or Noel Cloutier B abt 1520. If my info is not correct please let me know.
posted by Deborah Clouthier
Text has Nicolas m Rene, but link is to Marie Anne (Rene) Briere. WikiTree (and Find A Grave) show Denis Cloutier m Rene (Renée Brière. Could you check your records - father and son both married women called Rene Brière? Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I was shown as manager of this profile, but he is no relation to me, so I have removed myself.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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