Richard Edlyn (1565 - aft. 1616)

Born 1565 in Pinner Marsh, Harrow on the Hill, London, Middlesex, England

Ancestors

Descendants

Died after 5 Aug 1616 after age 51 in Middlesex, England

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Biography

1558 Birth and Parents

Richard Edlyn was born no later than 1558. This birth year is an estimate based on his father's death the following year -- the Find A Grave site states Richard Edlyn was the son of William Edlyn who died in 1559. ^[1]

However, Todd Whitesides gives an alternate parentage, making Richard Edlyn the son of Richard Edlyn (d. 1617), yeoman, of Pinner Marsh, Middlesex and his wife Joane Redinge. ^[2]

Geni shows Richard as Richard Edlyn, Jr, born in Pinner Marsh, Harrow on the Hill, London, Middlesex, Eng. in 1565. ^[3] Son of Richard A P Edlyn, Sr and Joane or Jane Edlyn

Nordstrom agrees that Richard Edlyn was of Pinner Marsh, County Middlesex. ^[4]

For Norstrom, however, his parents were William and Joan Edlyn. ^[4]

It should be noted that no primary sources document the parents of Richard Edlyn and that his parents should be considered uncertain.

Harrow

The will of Phillip Edelen's father, Richard Edlyn (d. 1616), states that he was "of Pynnor marshe in the parish of Harrow on the hill in the Countye of Midlesex..." The will of this Richard's father, William Edlyn (d. 1558), states that he was "of Pynner in the paryshe of Harrow on the Hyll in the County of Middlesex..." ^[5]

Harrow-on-the-Hill is a parish in what was Gore Hundred, Middlesex. The villages of Greenhill, Roxeth, and Kenton fall within its boundary. Pinner Marsh is simply a placename for an area near Pinner, which is a town and its own parish. Formerly, Pinner fell within the jurisdiction of Harrow.

Also, Phillip Edelen's uncle-in-law, Sir Christopher Clitherow (1578-1641), knt., Lord Mayor of London, kept a residence in Pinner, and in fact died there on 11 Nov 1641. In Clitherow's will (P.C.C. 140 Evelyn) this bequest is made: "Cousin Mrs. Catherine Edlin and to all her brothers and sisters, the children of deceased sister Mrs Anne Offley, 40 shillings for a ring." ^[5]

Sibling

Richard ws the brother of

1. Edward Edlyn;
2. Roger Edelin/Edlyn/Edelen;
3. Agnes Edlyn;
4. William Edlyn;
5. Henry Edlyn and 2 others ^[3]

Denham, Buckinghamshire

Both his sister, Joan “Hannah” (Edlyn), wife of Richard Nicholas, and his daughter, Ann Edelen, wife of James Hills, lived at Denham. His sons stayed with one or the other and were educated at Denham. For a period of time, less than one year, Edlyn was rector of Pinner after being driven out of his Church of St. John Zachary in London, by the puritans of Oliver Cromwell because he was a royalist and loyal to the bishops of the Church of England. Some years later he became reconciled with the new Parliament and became rector of St. Michael Bassishan in London, where he remained until his death in 1656. His daughter, Ann, married James Hills of Pinner, County Middlesex in that Church. ^[4]

1595 Marriage

About 1595, ^[6] Richard Edlyn married Margaret. Numerous sources agree that the wife of Richard Edlyn / Edelen was Margaret, but none are aware of her family name. ^[6][3][4]

1616 Will and Death

Richard Edlyn, yeoman, of Pinner Marsh and Bury Pond Hill left a will dated 5 Aug. 1616 and proved 27 August 1616. ^[7]

Will Probated 27 AUG 1616 Peculiar Jurisdiction of the Archbishop of Canterbury Deanery of Croydon

• In the name of God amen
• I richard Edlyn of Pynnor marshe in the parish of Harrow on the hill in the Countye of Midlesex yeoman being in perfect memory do make my last will and testement in manner and forme followeing, that is to say
• first I geve and bequesthe my soule into the hands of Almightye God my creator and of his sonne Jesus Christe my redeemer and of the holy Ghost my comforter, and my body to the earth when it shall please God,
• Item I geve & bequesth my temporall estate as followeth
• first I geve to Margaret my loveinge wife these my three closes lyeinge at Berry Pond hill within the libertye of Pynnor called by the names of Cornells and lewses and lewses mede for and dureinge the tearme of her naturall life and
• also I doe geve unto her one Annuytye or Annuall rent of twentye pounds by the yeare to be yssueinge out of mesuage wherein I nowe dwell in Pynnor and out of all the lands tenements and heredytaments thereunto belongeinge or reputed and taken to belonge unto the same or usually Occupyed wuth the same (excepte out of those closes before lymyted to her for her naturall life) and yf the sayd annuytye or yearelye rent of twentye pounds shall not be payd unto her at quarterlye that is to say at the feasts of Saint Michaell Tharchangell the Nativitye of our Lord God, the annunciation of hte Virgin Mary and Saint John Baptist by enen and equall portions or within twelve dayes next after any of the sayd feasts that then or at any after it shall and may be lawful to
• and for the sayd Margaret my wife or her Assignes to enter into all or any parte of the premisses before mentioned to be lyable to the sayd Annuytye then and their (sic) to distrayne for the sayd annuytye and arrerages thereof yf any shall be, and such distresse and distresses soe to be taken to leade drive and carye away the same to detayne and keepe untill shee shall be thereof satisfied,
• Provided alwayes and it is my will that if my wife shall at any tyme heareafter sue out any writ of dower to recover the thirde of any my lands tenements and heredytament whereof I stand seized at the day of the date of theise presents that then her sayd estate lymyted to her for her life in the sayd three closes at berry pond hill and also the sayd annuyty by this my will geven shall both uterlye cease and be voyde any thinge conteyned before in this my will to the all that my mesuage with thappurtenanc scituate lyeing and beinge in Pynnor aforesaid commonly called or knowne by the nane or names of Anthonyes and also all those eight acres of land by they more or lesse to the same mesauge adioyninge and now devided into severall closes with all and singular their and everye of their appurtenances and the reversion and reversions thereof and of everye parte parcell and member thereoff which of late I purchased to me and my heyres of one Henry Readingr and Thomas Readinge as by poll deed thereof made beareinge date the second day of February in the sixte yeare of the Raigne of our soveraigne Lord King James may appeare for and dureinge the tearme of twelve yeares from the date of this my will fully to be compleate and ended,
• my will is further that wereas I and Margaret my wife have lymyted the estate of one Mesuage or tenement and one orchard thereunto adioyneing scituate lyeinge and beinge within the Mannor of Colham in the paryshe of Hillingdon in the sayd Countye of Midlesex and of three closes of meadowe or pasture thereunto adioyneinge on the south side of the said mesuage and of two other closes of arable land contyninge by estimation tenne acres or thereabouts lyeinge and beinge within the sayd Mannor and parishe betweene the common called Northolt common of the west and the land late of John Crosyer of the easte and of one little meadowe plott conteyninge by estimation tw acres or thereabouts lyeinge and beinge within the sayd Mannor and parishe betwene a lane there called by the name of Bucklane of the east and a brooke there of the west, and of one cottage or tenemant with an Orchard and close thereunto adioyneinge and belongeinge conteyningeby estimation balfe an acre or thereabouts which cottage Orchard and close are situate lyeinge and beinge in the parishe of hillingdon afore sayd adioyninge unto the sayd mesuage of the west to the use of me and my sayd wife and the survivour of us for and dureinge our naturall lives and the survivour of us and after the decease of us to the use of Richard my sonne and the heyres of the body of the sayd Richard to be begotten and for default of such yssue to the use of Phillipp Edlyne my sonne and his heyres
• now my will is that the sayd estate lymyted as aforesayd to Phillipp my sonne and his heyres for want of yssue of the bodye of the sayd Richard my sonne shall happen to come unto hym at any tyme within the sayd tearme of twelve yeares that then all these lands and tenements before geven to Phillipp my soone for the tearme aforesaid shall remayne to the right heyres of me for ever, but yf the same shall not happen to come unto hym as aforesayd within the sayd tyme that then the same shalbe to the sayd Phillipp and his heyres for ever
• Item I geve unto my sayd wife my woods ground commonly called or knowne by the name of Marle pitts for and dureinge her naturall life for and upon the same conditions as shee is before bounde unto for her other estate in the dayd premisses before geven her, Item I geve unto Alice my daughter two hundred Marks of lawfull money of England to be payd her at two payments, the one moytye within three monethes after her day of maryage and the other moytye within sixe monethes after her sayd day of maryage,
• Item I geve unto Hanna my daughter two hundred marks of like lawfull money of England to be payd her at the age of two and twenty yeares, my will is that the sayd two hundred Marks geven to my sayd daughter Hanna shalbe payd her at the lymyted tyme by my heyre, and my executor or executrix to be thereof acquited and dischardged, and yf my sayd heyre shall not pay the same accordinge to this my will that then my sayd daughter Hanna shall within three monethes after demannd thereof made at my now dwelling howse enter into all the lands and tenements whatsoever whereof I shall dye seized and shall come by right of inheritance to my sayd heyres and the same to have to her owne use for and dureinge the tearme of three yeares fully to be compleat and ended
• Item I geve unto William my sonne my teame of horses with the furniture to them belongeinge and all my plowes carts plowe tymber and cart tymber whatsoever, and all other my tymber whatsoever, and all the vessells and furniture in my brewhowse and butterey, and all the furniture in the parlor and all the furniture in my mens chamber
• Item I geve to the poore of Pynnor XX
• Item I doe also geve unto my sayd wife my howse wherein I now dwell and all the lands tenements and hereditaments thereunto belongeing or usually occupyed togeather with the same with their appurtenances for and dureinge the tearme of three yeares from the feast of Saint Michaell the Archangell next ensueinge the date hereof,
• my will is further that my sayd wife shall have the use of all those goods and chattells before geven to my sayd sonne William for and dureing her tearme of three yeares all the residew of my goods chattells ready money and debts not befor geven I geve unto my sayd wife whom I make executrix of this my will In witness whereoff I have hereunto put my hand and seale the fifte day of August anno domini 1616 and in the fowreteenth yeare of the Raigne of our soveraigne lord kyng James.
• Rereade sealed and published to be the last will of the sayd Richard Edlyn in the presenceof us John Smyth Henry Edlin Richard Nicholas(Richard Edlyn's signature appears in the margin)

Richard Edlyn died in August 1616, before his will was probated on August 27, 1616. He is buried in the St John the Baptist Churchyard, Pinner, London Borough of Harrow, Greater London, England. ^[1]

Issue

Children of Richard and Margaret include the following. The children shown below have not been verified:

Named in Will

1. Richard, named first in father's 1616 will. ^[7] Richard Edlyn was the father of Philippe Edelen (1598–1657) ^[1] Richard Edelen, citizen and tallow chandler of London, lived in the parish of St. Giles Cripplegate in London. He held lands in Hillingdon, County Middlesex, probably inherited from his widowed mother, who lived at Hillingdon after her husband’s death. Richard’s will, dated 5 June 1669 was proved at London 1 Nov. 1669. His will was sealed with the Edelin Coat of Arms: Ermine, a Fess Vairy, or and Gules. His nephew, Richard Edelen of Maryland, used the same Coat of Arms on the door of his coach, which was destroyed by fire in 1927 at Mount Airy, Maryland. The Crest was a Swan’s head between two wings, argent. ^[4] Richard Edelin married Sarah ________
2. Rev. Philip Edelen (also Philip Edlyn, named second in father's 1616 will^[7] Philippe Edelen (Edlyn), B.A., M.A., B.D., Rector of North Cray, Kent (1628), of Alverstoke, Hampshire (1631), of St. John Zachary, London (1635-37), of Bushey, Hertfordshire (1642-43), of St. Michael Bassishaw, London (1652-56), and Denham, Buckinghamshire (1652-56. Philip was born 1597-98 Marshes Place (in Pinner), Middlesex, married- 28 Dec. 1629 Church of St. Mary, Leyton, Essex and died- testate 22 Mar. 1656/7 with M.I. at Church of St. Mary, Denham, Buckinghamshire.^[2] Phililp Edelen married Catherine, daughter of Thomas Offley and Ann Clitheron of London and Elbing, Prussia ^[4] Philip Edelin proved father’s will in 1669.
3. Alice, named third in father's 1616 will^[7]
4. Hannah, named fourth in father's 1616 will^[7]
5. William Edlyn, named fifth in father's 1616 will^[7] William Edelin proved father’s will in 1669.

Not named in will

1. Daughter, wife of _______Mason ^[4]
2. Daughter ^[4]
3. Daughter ^[4]
4. Joane Edelen Joan (Hannah) Edlyn married Richard Nicholas of Woodhal in Pinner, County Middlesex. Her will, dated 7 Feb. 1643, was proved at London 28 Feb. 1645. His will, dated 12 April 1643, was proved at London 28 Feb. 1643. ^[4] Jane Edelin
5. UNKNOWN Margaret Margaret Edelin married Joseph Sherwood, clerk in Holy Orders.
6. Ann Edelin

Research Note

Disambiguation: Multiple Richard Edelens

There were multiple Richard Edelens in this time period:

• Richard Edlyn (1524-1616) Husband of Joane Reding. Pinner Marsh, Middlesex, England.
• Richard Edlyn (1565-1616), husband of Margaret and father of Richard Edelen, b. 1594 and Rev. Philip Edelen, born 1598. Pinner Marsh, Middlesex, England
• Richard Edelen (1594-1669). Brother of Rev. Philip Edelen, born 1598 who married Catherine Offley. Father of Richard Edelen. Pinner Marsh, Middlesex, England
• Richard Edelen born about 1630 London, Middlesex, England, son of Richard Edelen. Husband of Priscilla Piggott, born 1641 and father of Mary Edelen, born 1663.
• Richard Edelen (1639-1684), son of Rev. Philip Edelen. Married Elizabeth Banton and immigrated to Province of Maryland in 1663.

Edelen Legends

Todd Whitesides writes:

I want to warn you to be wary of accepting all the tales repeated about the Edelens on the various forums and in some printed sources. I have corresponded with a couple of very serious Edelen researchers for nearly twenty years, and have come to respect their reserve in accepting all the family stories floating around out there. ^[8]

Yes, Phillippe Edelen held three degrees, was an ordained minister of the Church of England, and was a published writer [of a sort]. But his church was not sacked and looted by the Parliamentarians, he was merely ejected from his ministry. This was common practice for rectors whose political philosophy didn't match the current regime. Puritans had been ejected for non-conformity for several years before the House of Commons ejected the Stuarts. ^[8]

I have many files on the early origin of the Edelen family that have been supplied to me over the years by Crolian William Edelen. He was kind enough to begin sharing his research on the Edelens with me when I was a teenager, and luckily I have been able to supply him with new information recently on our mutual ancestry. ^[8]

The fantasy of Elizabeth Banton being a daughter of a "Lord Pannewell" originated years ago because a descendant in Maryland had the middle name of Pannewell. No further connection has been found to this illusory Lord Pannewell. ^[8]

Before perpetuating more fluff on the family I am hoping more people will dig deeper into the available documentation to be had on our ancestors in London and its environs. There is a lot of good source material on this family out there. ^[8]

Is there anyone actively working on the ancestry of Phillippe Edelen (ca 1598-1656) and his wife Katherine Offley (1600-????)? Philippe's line back to his grandfather William Edlyn (d. 1558) has been substantiated nicely, and Katherine's ancestry (including the lines Offley, Harding, Clitherow, Hewett, and Hawks) is continuing to fill in. ^[9]

Also interested in tracking Katherine's descendants in Virginia by her first husband, William Brewster "the younger" (ca 1581-1624). After this first marriage she married in 1629 at the parish church near her father's country home to Phillippe Edelen. Her father was Thomas Offley, Esq (1564-1630) of Aldgate Ward, London, and Leyton, Essex; her mother Anne Clitherow (1576-1638). ^[9]

Am also interested in gathering more biographical detail on these people, including Phillippe and Katherine's son Richard Edelen, gent (ca. 1639-1695), an attorney and deputy surveyor, as well as being described in the Maryland archives as "a knowne Papist." ^[9]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Find A Grave: Memorial #125522197 Accessed 2 November 2020 jhd
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Todd Whitesides, Edelen Family Genforum #152, Nov 8, 2006. http://genforum.genealogy.com/edelen/messages/152.html
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2} Geni http://www.geni.com/people/Richard-Edlyn/6000000009359024370.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 4.7 4.8 4.9} Mary Felts-Nordstrom, Edelen Family Genforum #101, November, 3, 2002, based on handwritten notes received from family researcher Crolian W. Edelen, July 19, 2002. http://genforum.genealogy.com/edelen/messages/101.html
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} Todd Whitesides, Edelen Family Genforum #127, June 17, 2004. http://genforum.genealogy.com/edelen/messages/127.html
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} THE ENGLISH ROOTS Publication: Name: World Wide Web
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5} Will of Richard Edlyn, Yeoman, 27 August 1616 Accessed June 24, 2017 jhd
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4} Todd Whitesides, Edelen Family Genforum #117, June 9, 2003. http://genforum.genealogy.com/edelen/messages/117.html
9. ↑ ^{9.0 9.1 9.2} Todd Whitesides, Edelen Family Genforum #111, March 23, 2003. http://genforum.genealogy.com/edelen/messages/111.html

Acknowledgements

• WikiTree profile Edlyn-4 created through the import of Lambin Family Tree.ged on Jan 22, 2012 by Beth Bryant. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Beth and others.
• WikiTree profile Edelen-12 created through the import of Family Nov 2011.GED on Sep 6, 2011 by Jim Tarbet.